to give Coughlin one more year. I really feel that he can be a home run hire. He totally transformed Brady after the offense went stagnant in 2010. They cut Moss, changed to the two TE formation and it really did wonders. He took a walk on in McGloin and made him a college standout and a NFL player. Bottom line is that he is a terrific coach.
Now, we all have to realize that the next coach has like .000001 chance of being as successful TC. However, if the point is to give him one year for him to leave on a better note; I am not sure I am signing up for that. Either we make a 3 or 4 year commitment to Coughlin to turn this around and he obviously would have to make that commitment to us, too. I am not on board for a one year extension. A one year extension does nothing. This is a rebuilding job and either TC is the man to do it, or he is not. But, if we give him a one year deal, it will solve nothing, other than make us feel better about rewarding someone who has done great things for us. So, in the final analysis, I do not want to pass up a good coach such as O'Brien, to give TC a better year to leave on. I want to start rebuilding now. Management needs to decide whether Coughlin is the guy for the next 3 or 4 years, not one.
And I seriously doubt Minnesota, Washington, or Houston are necessarily the "right jobs." The guy grew up in Rhode Island and Massachusetts, and coached for the Patriots. I really think when Belichick eventually retires, that is a job O'Brien would be VERY interested in.
It sure seems like he's going this year.
Here's the part I don't get, and considering it's a major part of his argument...
Huge issues with this part.
1. More sanctions? Is he referring to the sanctions that were initially announced in July 2012? It was reported that O'Brien wasn't happy with how many years were added to his contract due to the sanctions (from 5 to 9 years). Then he and Penn State went and amended his contract back in June. Now it's back to five years. On top of that, Penn State had its sanctions REDUCED in September. So that point makes no sense.
2. Three staff members? I've only heard about two. There are also rumors that they were "leave or be let go" resignations. Unclear.
3. Litigation over buyouts because of the sanctions. Again, that might be valid if O'Brien and the university hadn't amended the contract six months ago, or 11 months after the sanctions were announced. The amended contract actually makes the buyout different for pro and college, with it becoming much lower in a return to the NFL (it's pretty cost-restrictive to go coach another college team). So yeah, I don't think litigation would work.
O'Brien might very well head back to the NFL after the current season. He might very well opt to stay at Penn State. I definitely don't see him staying permanently. But La Canfora's arguments about why he's going to leave now are pure crap.
But you always have to be concerned about guys making the jump from college to the pros with no previous NFL head coaching experience
I could be wrong, but I think that number only applies if he leaves to coach another college team. I don't think the same numbers would apply if he left for the NFL.
Despite all the brutally ugly and inept of 2013, I suspect we're not replacing TC or much of his staff. They're going to chart it all out and determine that injuries, poor performance, and a lack of talent were the major contributing factors.
If he goes to the right organization that will show patience with their head coach (Giants, Steelers, Patriots) he will have similar job stability and even if unsuccessful in the NFL he can land a more lucrative job next time in college (look at what happened when guys like Pete Carroll and USC and also Dennis Erickson)
Plus he yelled at Tom Brady and Brady is dreamy.
Despite all the brutally ugly and inept of 2013, I suspect we're not replacing TC or much of his staff. They're going to chart it all out and determine that injuries, poor performance, and a lack of talent were the major contributing factors.
I agree there is no chance that TC won't come back if he wants to, which I assume he does. However, a major part of this thread was if we judge that talent is a major issue, don't we need a rebuilding job and do we feel comfortable putting that in TC's hands at this late stage of his career?
[quote] In comment 11403326 JonC said:
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those seeking to replace TC are viewing this from a lens different from that of management.
Despite all the brutally ugly and inept of 2013, I suspect we're not replacing TC or much of his staff. They're going to chart it all out and determine that injuries, poor performance, and a lack of talent were the major contributing factors.
I agree there is no chance that TC won't come back if he wants to, which I assume he does. However, a major part of this thread was if we judge that talent is a major issue, don't we need a rebuilding job and do we feel comfortable putting that in TC's hands at this late stage of his career?
] agree. Due to the poor drafts over the last several yrs their lack of talent at TE, WR, OL, CB, LB and DE dictates this is a multi yr rebuild assuming they can have some productive drafts. developing young players isnot TC strength. Hopefully, Mara/Tisch decision will be whats good for Giants and not ego's of coaches