in an otherwise miserable season. And by turning point I mean the start of a offensive and defensive line rebuilding. Many people feel you need to build your team from the lines out. I agree kind of in that if you can't control the line of scrimmage you cannot execute your game plan, so if you don't build from the lines out, you at least need to make them a priority.
the Giants already have some skill position players (Cruz and Randle to name a couple) and QB locked up.
So did the Giants add 3 future stalwarts on the lines in the 2013 draft?
I think we can all agree Pugh looks like a keeper. he's arguably outplayed Joekel, Fisher, Johnson and Fluker - the 4 tackles taken ahead of him. I also believe Pugh has played among the most snaps of any NFL rookie. He hasn't missed a snap all year.
Hankins and Moore obviously still are question marks, but both have shown flashes. Hankins has more than just flashed IMO (comparatively speaking).
Hankins has seen FAR more playing time than Linval Joseph did as a rookie and has graded out very well by PFF - particularly against the run. Linval played 62 total snaps as a rookie. Hankins already has over 150.
Moore has flashed athleticism and maybe the next two weeks we see more of him (Jenkins and JPP both hurt right now).
The team needs a guard (at least one) in a big way and another DE.
but the youth movement on the lines seems to have started.
It's not often you can infuse this kind of youth successfully into your lines in one draft, at least I don't think so.
Reese and Ross are slammed for the drafts lately - rightfully so - this one might very possibly yield three key starters (in the first three picks).
If Reese, Ross, and the scouts are still here (which I doubt all go unscathed after this seasons debacle) then yeah, keep the process going. Add a guard and another DE.
That IMO are the priorities for this team in no specific order:
OG
OC
DE
WR
TE
The Giants could use CB depth or even a starter over Hosley, but that's not as necessary as the above.
Kiwi should take a seat... who cares what Moore does or does not know at this point....he needs to play!
Allthings status quo even, at lets say 12 and 44-46, and if 4-5 taken are QBs, 2 of the top remaining 40 are ours.
Likely to get a day 1 in those 2 picks.
so if the Giants stand pat at 10 (or wherever) think they pick the best among DE, TE, or WR).
My best case and things never work out this way, is to trade down into guard vicinity (so late teens early 20's) and pick up an additional 1st or 2nd and get both a guard/center and a TE/WR in the first.
But you say "The Giants could use CB depth or even a starter over Hosley, but that's not as necessary as the above." Don't agree with that at all -- CWeb and Ross are gone/done (31+ y.o. and ending season injured or on IR - 'nuff said) -- we manifestly need CB in the worst way.
A different draft class, but when I watched Hosley late in the season, I saw a flash of what he could be. That quick slot corner who can really stick with the Welkers, etc. I hope he trends upwards.
McBride started last week and played well, I don't know what he'd cost, but he'd be a guy I look to re-sign.
Prince, Hosley, McBride, and that is where I'd spend some free agent $$$. Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, Sam Shields, Tim Jennings, etc all free agents - IMO CB's are one spot where free agents can be brought in and have it work out well.
Nassib is for the future, if at all. Taylor was always going to be for ST at most as a rookie. Herman needs work on his pass blocking, and Cox was another ST player.
In the offseason, we need a center, and at least one guard. Then hope one of Brewer, Mosley, or Herman can develop into at least a competent backup.
We also definitely need another CB. Hosley has shown flashes, but we need to use a high pick on this position.
The other needs are TE, DE, LB, and WR. We need so much because we have drafted so poorly.
It's a fair point.
I'm not a huge fan of Cox, I think he'll be gone next year but I think Cooper Taylor is interesting as is Hermann.
One of these late round OL needs to become a starter eventually, take a lot of pressure off the cap.
Good D-lineman seem to typically be the higher draft picks. But O-lineman seem to be a fairly wide mixture of high picks, later picks and even undrafted personnel for whatever reason.
However, lack of investment on the O-line has clearly been the Giant downfall. We got away with it for many seasons by plugging in non-premium players and assuming Flaherty was a genius. But that risk caught up with us big-time.
Although Beatty and JPP have had down years, those guys in combination with Pugh, Hankins, Moore, and hopefully Joseph form a decent set of big young bodies on our lines that hopefully we can build on.
We have screwed the pooch on too many drafts.....if we have a high pick, we can only hope for the best.....out track record does not dictate that....
I think we've seen enough to not necessarily pencil him in as an all-pro or anything but to give him a shot as the starter (if Linval is not re-signed) and feel positive about doing it.
Need to see more of Moore, but I'm hopeful with him too.
Not what you want from your top 3 picks, but it could actually be worse.
Easy does it. Not exactly a great week to show off.