explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
I really hope Mr Mara comes out soon, addresses the media and says that although he is proud this team went 7-3 over the last 10, there will be change. Whether it is Reese, assistant coaches, players or something, this is 3 straight years now of missing the playoffs. With an "elite" QB, time is a wasting.
It's amazing that there were 11 teams that were worse than us
And the fact that the win slightly impacted draft position negatively, I actually am proud of the guys today.
If for no other reason, just as I ask in coaching youth football, that the Giants played hard until the final whistle and gave their all (at great cost for some). Did the season suck? Of course. Did they fold when it would have been easy to do so? No. While it's obvious that there is much to fix, there are some positives to look toward (JJ, Hankins, Moore, Pugh).
In comment 11419884 giantsfan227B said:
[quote] I really hope Mr Mara comes out soon, addresses the media and says that although he is proud this team went 7-3 over the last 10, there will be change. Whether it is Reese, assistant coaches, players or something, this is 3 straight years now of missing the playoffs. With an "elite" QB, time is a wasting. FYI...it is NOT 3 straight years of missing the playoffs ...you may recall the won the Superbowl 2 years ago
1. Jernigan looks like he has finally figured it out. Everyone said he was a project--just took a year longer than we expected.
2. Boothe was terrible at center. Entire interior OL needs to be rebuilt.
3. Have to resign Tuck. Defense has been outstanding last 10 games--except for SD game and one GW drive by Dallas.
4. Joseph should be resigned too. Just spend the money to keep a strength a strength.
5. Draft an OT in the first and G/C in the second. It's a cliche but true nevertheless: The OL is going to get Eli injured. You don't risk your franchise QB. Reese, Coughlin, and Mara should be ashamed of what they did this year with the OL. Putting "loyalty" to injured vets ahead of Eli's well-being. I wish for just five minutes Eli could channel Peyton and rip this staff for the crap OL they "put together." Disgraceful.
In comment 11419958 oipolloi said:
[quote] 1. Jernigan looks like he has finally figured it out. Everyone said he was a project--just took a year longer than we expected.
2. Boothe was terrible at center. Entire interior OL needs to be rebuilt.
3. Have to resign Tuck. Defense has been outstanding last 10 games--except for SD game and one GW drive by Dallas.
4. Joseph should be resigned too. Just spend the money to keep a strength a strength.
5. Draft an OT in the first and G/C in the second. It's a cliche but true nevertheless: The OL is going to get Eli injured. You don't risk your franchise QB. Reese, Coughlin, and Mara should be ashamed of what they did this year with the OL. Putting "loyalty" to injured vets ahead of Eli's well-being. I wish for just five minutes Eli could channel Peyton and rip this staff for the crap OL they "put together." Disgraceful.
I think JJ just needed a chance to get on the field and if the continue to "pigeon-hole" him as just a slot guy he will be back on the bench again next season once Cruz is healthy
explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
They caught the Lions in a tailspin lost to any decent team they met. Beating crappy teams and losing to decent teams is what mediocre teams do best. It wasn't a great coaching job, just a reflection of the order of the schedule, tough up front, easy on the backside.
Shame on those that called for him to be cut this past off-season. And even worse the ones that wanted Barden kept over Jernigan.
With Cruz showing he can be the #1 and Randle being able to take over the Mannigham role. It seems like Nicks is more expendable. They do need to add some depth though.
they lose their starting tackle and made adjustments... run the majority of your plays out of shotgun and throw quick passes... it's a no-brainer if your interior line is consistently manhandled, but I guess not if your name is Gilbride.
Tom coughlin on coming back: "don't ask me that." Said there will be an evaluation
Glad he sniped at that question.
Why? It is a legitimate question that the writers waited to ask until the season was over. His reaction is not surprising, but a legitimate question nonetheless.
the idea that the Giants have "no talent" is just ridiculous
They finished 7-3. Yes, a lot of those wins came against struggling teams but so do the wins of any team with a good record.
The 0-6 start was because of the OL. Snee, Baas and Diehl took up roster space and cap space that should have been used on their replacements. Once, the younger guys got some time together, the OL played well enough to get some wins. Not great or even good. But decently enough to eke out a few victories. If the Giants had actually signed a FA OL instead of keeping Snee and drafted a G/C, this could easily have been a playoff team.
The fact that this team won 7 games is proof of how awful this league is right now. We led the league in turnovers, had the worst OL in football, no tight ends, no running backs, one productive receiver and a good-but-not-great defense. In a previous era, that would've been a recipe for 2-14.
Stating the obvious, our OL is priorities 1-4. Right now it's Pugh and four turnstiles. I don't care if we do absolutely nothing else this offseason - we could spend four draft picks and sign two guys in FA for all I care. Just get it fixed once and for all. If we're gonna stick with the pre-historic Coughlin/Gilbride downfield passing offense, then we can't screw around anymore up front.
This moment screams for a system change on offense. The only guys we have penciled in going forward are Eli, Cruz, Pugh, Randle and maybe Jernigan. A perfect time to mold this into a more modern offense that takes full advantage of the recent rule changes/enforcements that favor the offense.
Fewell did a nice job overall I guess, but it's alarming that the defense has to go to him and beg for changes in order to get things going in the right direction. We have the makings of a very good defense and there will be better options than Fewell available. Our talent could really flourish with a top DC. Let's move on.
Hopefully this is the end of the Quinn era. Promote Izzo and see what happens.
Thanks for the great memories, Diehl, Webster and Snee. If Nicks walks, I won't shed a tear. I think we can reach a compromise with Tuck that won't offend him or hurt us cap-wise.
was impressive once again today. Good things seem to happen when he has the ball. Based on his contributions, he's a solid back and worth keeping. I am wondering if Andre Brown played hurt today, because he looked really bad.
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Spoke to Kevin Gilbride, who said the coaches were "absolutely not" given any indication about next year. Did not expect one today. #nyg
They finished 7-3. Yes, a lot of those wins came against struggling teams but so do the wins of any team with a good record.
The 0-6 start was because of the OL. Snee, Baas and Diehl took up roster space and cap space that should have been used on their replacements. Once, the younger guys got some time together, the OL played well enough to get some wins. Not great or even good. But decently enough to eke out a few victories. If the Giants had actually signed a FA OL instead of keeping Snee and drafted a G/C, this could easily have been a playoff team.
agree
the cost of loyalty, nepotism, and a bad FA signing.
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David Diehl is at his locker giving what sure sounds like a retirement speech: "If this is it, I can walk away with my head held high."
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Would Diehl return to play with anyone other than the Giants? "I can't see myself wearing another uniform," he said. #NYG
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Diehl needs thumb surgery too. He said he'll make his decision on playing next year sometime in the next two weeks.
3rd down, short yardage specialist is a good fit for this team. Seems to know blocking schemes won't be expensive and would be a good veteran fit. We could go into next season with 2 new backs if wilsons neck is not cleared.
Hopefully the Giants aren't going to put too much stock in them.Last year against the Eagles it was the same thing.Perry is blitzing the quarterback,which he hadn't done all year.Rueben Randle is catching touchdown passes and getting more playing time.Than we go into the off season feeling good,Jerry thinks this team is loaded,and here we are 7-9.
I disagree with the idea that the young players on OL
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 58s
Jon Beason told me nothing's changed: he wants to re-sign with #NYG + has no reason to think he won't be back. But process has not started.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
David Diehl will require another thumb surgery now that season is over. Will mull retirement, can't imagine playing anywhere but NYG.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
All signs point to Tom Coughlin coming back in 2014, but oddly enough nothing definite. We'll likely hear for sure tomorrow.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 1m
Caught up with Trumaine McBride outside #NYG locker room and he said he would "love to be back" here next year. #UFA
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Nothing definitive from #Giants on Coughlin coming back for 2014, likely b/c there's very little doubt. Could get something official Mon
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
Giants were 7-4 in games in which Jon Beason played significant snaps.
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 2m
Jernigan's touchdown catch, by the way, came on "a route that Victor and Eli always run," Jernigan said.
trumcbride
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We didn't have the season we expected to have but we finished strong! 7-3 in our last 10 games. I gave it my all today for this great organization & for my teammates! I'm truly blessed & honored to be a NY Giant! #Gmen #Giants
this team has a "strength", as someone suggested (in reference to LJ and the DL), is ludicrous. There are no areas of strength on this team. It is the worst Giants team I have watched in more than fifty years.
RE: RE: Most will not agree, and I'll put together a longer post
explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
They caught the Lions in a tailspin lost to any decent team they met. Beating crappy teams and losing to decent teams is what mediocre teams do best. It wasn't a great coaching job, just a reflection of the order of the schedule, tough up front, easy on the backside.
Many teams rolled over this season. The Giants, with the worst stay in the league did not despite not having the houses to complete with the best teams in the league. Perspective.
despite Tuck being the only DE who had a good season. Beason helped a lot, Prince is emerging as a force at CB, the safeties were good. Their DTs are outstanding. If JPP ever gets close to his old form, and if Moore develops, they should be okay going forward.
They should shed almost half the offensive players on the roster. They were putrid on O most of the season.
Paul Schwartz @NYPost_Schwartz 43s
Antrel Rolle says he doesn't to play for any other head coach other than Tom Coughlin. Rolle explains ... "I want him back. I wouldnt want to play for anyone else. Hes an outstanding coach, hes even more of a phenomenal person. This is exactly what we need here in this locker room, I think its been proven. We just got out to a real slow start. It had nothing at all to do with coach Coughlin, we got off to a slow start and started picking it up as time went on.'' #nyg
In comment 11420175 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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this team has a "strength", as someone suggested (in reference to LJ and the DL), is ludicrous. There are no areas of strength on this team. It is the worst Giants team I have watched in more than fifty years.
Did you sleep through the 70's?
And the DL run defense is absolutely a strength - take a look at the stats of some of the RB opponents....
Jeff Roberts @TheJRob 49s
Would Justin Tuck be surprised if Coughlin didnt return? 'Id be very surprised. Shocked. U tell me somebody that does it better.' #NYG
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Who in their right mind would say anything else?!! Burn all bridges with the team & HC before they know if the fate of the HC and if the team is interested?!!!
I'm not saying they're lying, but what kind of stupid question/quote are those?!!
...mentions his 1 sack through first 8 games and then 9 or 10 in last six games. In essence, Toomer said that Tuck woke up one day and remembered it's a contract year and all of a sudden decided to play.
Oh, boy.
I think it comes down to playing against good teams vs.
playing against really crappy teams. Tuck, and most everyone else, played well against crap teams. The one thing I'd say as an argument against that hypothesis is that the entire defense played better once Beason arrived, and I don't think that's coincidental or totally attributable to the level of competition we faced.
Sphinx... that was not intended towards you, but the beat writers who ask those questions and think its worth reporting.
Its like the question for TC in the post game presser about coming back... what idiot asked that?!! They think he's going to tell the media he wants to quit before ownership, or conversely he risks saying he wants back only to be fired a few days later!!
Winners: Jernigan, McBride, Hillis
Losers: Nicks and Brown .
In Nicks case the problem is more what Jernigan did than any poor play by Nicks. Brown has some fumbles this year that combined with his injury history make him a bigger risk.
...mentions his 1 sack through first 8 games and then 9 or 10 in last six games. In essence, Toomer said that Tuck woke up one day and remembered it's a contract year and all of a sudden decided to play.
Oh, boy.
As bad as that sounds, I think there's some truth to it. Thats why I'd be very cautious bringing him back despite having a very good year overall.
At the right price yes, but I think he's put himself out of Giants price range. Letting a guy walk a year too early better than a year too late scenario... I dont think Tuck can repeat such a year with his injury history.
In comment 11420175 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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this team has a "strength", as someone suggested (in reference to LJ and the DL), is ludicrous. There are no areas of strength on this team. It is the worst Giants team I have watched in more than fifty years.
There is no way this season was anywhere near as bad as the "fumble "
Did you sleep through the 70's?
And the DL run defense is absolutely a strength - take a look at the stats of some of the RB opponents....
explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
They caught the Lions in a tailspin lost to any decent team they met. Beating crappy teams and losing to decent teams is what mediocre teams do best. It wasn't a great coaching job, just a reflection of the order of the schedule, tough up front, easy on the backside.
Many teams rolled over this season. The Giants, with the worst stay in the league did not despite not having the houses to complete with the best teams in the league. Perspective.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 3m
Giants averaged 83.3 rushing yards, their lowest season-long average since they rushed for 76.9 yards a game in 1945.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 5m
... The last NFL team with at least nine defeats, all against teams .500 or better, was the 2009 Chicago Bears, who also finished 7-9.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 5m
All 9 of the Giants losses were to teams that finished .500 or better, the first time thats happened since their 5-11 season in 1995 ...
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 11s
The Giants were one of four teams this season to have its longest run by a receiver; the others were St. Louis, Cleveland and Green Bay.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 55s
According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Jernigans 49-yard touchdown run was the longest by a Giants wide receiver since the 1970 merger.
However, this was a shitty season, to say the least. Gilbride's playcalling sucked and he should go but Reese is the biggest culprit. This team was not talented enough to contend (see the Seattle, KC and Carolina games). A significant overhaul, especially on the offensive line and at the skill positions, is required to turn us into a contender again.
Pugh is the only keeper on the OL and a gigantic investment must be made to protect Eli. The fact that Eli got a high ankle sprain is a blessing in disguise because that hit could have broken his ankle and it clearly illustrated the awful job Reese did with the offensive line in replacing Snee, Diehl, O'Hara, and Seubert.
The skill positions are also not good enough. Nicks will get his $8-9 million from another team; he didn't play like a #1 receiver to say the least, so he's gone. Cruz is a good receiver but not a #1; Randle will have to replace Nicks, and I still don't buy Jernigan as an effective option; where was he in games that mattered? We'll also have to draft a receiver high. The RB position without Wilson is also a huge hole. Neither Brown nor Hillis are every down backs and we can't assume Wilson will ever play again due to the spinal stenosis issue. The Giants will have to scout RB very carefully this time around
Lastly, all the offensive coaches and Quinn (special teams) have to go; I'd consider bringing Fewell back but if a better DC shakes loose you could just let his contract expire. If TC decides he can't accept a new offensive coordinator then we have to go in another direction for the head coach too, and I love TC
this season, but it must just be an immense number. We had so many defenders across the LOS in every single game it was basically comical. I pray to God for some new offensive lineman next season.
It is over and kudos to the guys on the field in the second half today b/c on a cold, rainy day with nothing to play for the Giants held their heads up high.
Where is that troll SouthAfrica and his 25 bus loads of Skins fans?
defense played fairy well. with the exception of Carolina, San Diego - they were in most games this season and it was for the most part because of the defense.
and, you cannot play defense an entire game without an offense to hold up their end of the bargain.
Giants tanked as high as 8th versus the run this year - 3rd string qb had nothing to do with that.
Who's the starting O-line: Pugh and 4 guys named "Who".
Who's the starting tight end: Somebody named "Anybody but him".
Starting at running back: Ike Donnough.
Starting quarterback: Eli Summore
On defense, we have:
D-line: Linval, Hankin, Damontre (offside) Moore and JPP back?
Linebackers: Beason, Williams and who?
D-backs: Prince, Antrel?, Hill, Stevie, Tremaine?
And special team that know how to cover punts and kicks?
Coaches:
Head Case: Tom Coughlin?
Defensive Co-ordinator: Tom Landry (snicker)
Offensive Co-ordinator: Vince Lombardi (another snicker)
Note: both Landry and Lombardi were defensive and offensive coaches for the Giants. Both have passed away - but would have done a better job than the knuckleheads currently in those positions. "We have a complex system but not the personnel to execute it" - and neither co-ordinator would "adjust the system to the personnel".
Special Teams Co-ordinator: "Anybody but the guy we have now"
Quarterbacks Coach: "Anybody but the guy we have now". Phil Simms? (nah, if Phil could coach it, wouldn't his kids have been better at it?)
Team needs a major overhaul. It looks like a two year project to me.
Looks like 12.
If for no other reason, just as I ask in coaching youth football, that the Giants played hard until the final whistle and gave their all (at great cost for some). Did the season suck? Of course. Did they fold when it would have been easy to do so? No. While it's obvious that there is much to fix, there are some positives to look toward (JJ, Hankins, Moore, Pugh).
They beat up a lot of bad offenses, but i don't think there was one game that they held a healthy, good offense under its season averages.
Randle said he "called it a quits" today for purely precautionary reasons only.
Brewer has left foot in walking boot
Randle said he "called it a quits" today for purely precautionary reasons only.
Well, that's great news to hear.
in regards to Brewer have to figure he was playing thru pretty bad pain today. So don't judge his performance too harshly
in regards to Brewer have to figure he was playing thru pretty bad pain today. So don't judge his performance too harshly
Was he playing through pain all season?
Eli Manning has a high ankle sprain. #nyg
Coughlin said he's not sure if Will Beatty's fracture is to both his tibula and fibula, or just one bone.
[quote] I really hope Mr Mara comes out soon, addresses the media and says that although he is proud this team went 7-3 over the last 10, there will be change. Whether it is Reese, assistant coaches, players or something, this is 3 straight years now of missing the playoffs. With an "elite" QB, time is a wasting. FYI...it is NOT 3 straight years of missing the playoffs ...you may recall the won the Superbowl 2 years ago
2. Boothe was terrible at center. Entire interior OL needs to be rebuilt.
3. Have to resign Tuck. Defense has been outstanding last 10 games--except for SD game and one GW drive by Dallas.
4. Joseph should be resigned too. Just spend the money to keep a strength a strength.
5. Draft an OT in the first and G/C in the second. It's a cliche but true nevertheless: The OL is going to get Eli injured. You don't risk your franchise QB. Reese, Coughlin, and Mara should be ashamed of what they did this year with the OL. Putting "loyalty" to injured vets ahead of Eli's well-being. I wish for just five minutes Eli could channel Peyton and rip this staff for the crap OL they "put together." Disgraceful.
Tom coughlin on coming back: "don't ask me that." Said there will be an evaluation
Glad he sniped at that question.
[quote] 1. Jernigan looks like he has finally figured it out. Everyone said he was a project--just took a year longer than we expected.
2. Boothe was terrible at center. Entire interior OL needs to be rebuilt.
3. Have to resign Tuck. Defense has been outstanding last 10 games--except for SD game and one GW drive by Dallas.
4. Joseph should be resigned too. Just spend the money to keep a strength a strength.
5. Draft an OT in the first and G/C in the second. It's a cliche but true nevertheless: The OL is going to get Eli injured. You don't risk your franchise QB. Reese, Coughlin, and Mara should be ashamed of what they did this year with the OL. Putting "loyalty" to injured vets ahead of Eli's well-being. I wish for just five minutes Eli could channel Peyton and rip this staff for the crap OL they "put together." Disgraceful.
I think JJ just needed a chance to get on the field and if the continue to "pigeon-hole" him as just a slot guy he will be back on the bench again next season once Cruz is healthy
With Cruz showing he can be the #1 and Randle being able to take over the Mannigham role. It seems like Nicks is more expendable. They do need to add some depth though.
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Tom coughlin on coming back: "don't ask me that." Said there will be an evaluation
Glad he sniped at that question.
Why? It is a legitimate question that the writers waited to ask until the season was over. His reaction is not surprising, but a legitimate question nonetheless.
The 0-6 start was because of the OL. Snee, Baas and Diehl took up roster space and cap space that should have been used on their replacements. Once, the younger guys got some time together, the OL played well enough to get some wins. Not great or even good. But decently enough to eke out a few victories. If the Giants had actually signed a FA OL instead of keeping Snee and drafted a G/C, this could easily have been a playoff team.
This team was complete garbage from beginning to end this year.
5 of our 7 wins came against backup QBs.
Stafford and RG3 were the only starting QBs we beat this season.
That's some brutal shit.
Beason: I would love to play here next year
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Stating the obvious, our OL is priorities 1-4. Right now it's Pugh and four turnstiles. I don't care if we do absolutely nothing else this offseason - we could spend four draft picks and sign two guys in FA for all I care. Just get it fixed once and for all. If we're gonna stick with the pre-historic Coughlin/Gilbride downfield passing offense, then we can't screw around anymore up front.
This moment screams for a system change on offense. The only guys we have penciled in going forward are Eli, Cruz, Pugh, Randle and maybe Jernigan. A perfect time to mold this into a more modern offense that takes full advantage of the recent rule changes/enforcements that favor the offense.
Fewell did a nice job overall I guess, but it's alarming that the defense has to go to him and beg for changes in order to get things going in the right direction. We have the makings of a very good defense and there will be better options than Fewell available. Our talent could really flourish with a top DC. Let's move on.
Hopefully this is the end of the Quinn era. Promote Izzo and see what happens.
Thanks for the great memories, Diehl, Webster and Snee. If Nicks walks, I won't shed a tear. I think we can reach a compromise with Tuck that won't offend him or hurt us cap-wise.
Should be a fun few months.
Spoke to Kevin Gilbride, who said the coaches were "absolutely not" given any indication about next year. Did not expect one today. #nyg
It's easy to look back and say it was against poor to mediocre competition, but did you predict 7-3 when they were 0-6
The 0-6 start was because of the OL. Snee, Baas and Diehl took up roster space and cap space that should have been used on their replacements. Once, the younger guys got some time together, the OL played well enough to get some wins. Not great or even good. But decently enough to eke out a few victories. If the Giants had actually signed a FA OL instead of keeping Snee and drafted a G/C, this could easily have been a playoff team.
agree
the cost of loyalty, nepotism, and a bad FA signing.
David Diehl is at his locker giving what sure sounds like a retirement speech: "If this is it, I can walk away with my head held high."
Would Diehl return to play with anyone other than the Giants? "I can't see myself wearing another uniform," he said. #NYG
Diehl needs thumb surgery too. He said he'll make his decision on playing next year sometime in the next two weeks.
the defense is the sole reason why this team is 7-9. They literally won almost every game except for maybe the first redskins game
Hakeem Nicks, by the way, was not in the postgame locker room.
5 of our 7 wins came against backup QBs.
Stafford and RG3 were the only starting QBs we beat this season.
That's some brutal shit.
And the Stafford win was with the best offensive weapon in the sport a non-factor because of injury.
We didn't beat a single good and healthy offensive team.
Our TEs suck anyways.. who needs them.
Jon Beason told me nothing's changed: he wants to re-sign with #NYG + has no reason to think he won't be back. But process has not started.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
David Diehl will require another thumb surgery now that season is over. Will mull retirement, can't imagine playing anywhere but NYG.
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
All signs point to Tom Coughlin coming back in 2014, but oddly enough nothing definite. We'll likely hear for sure tomorrow.
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 1m
Caught up with Trumaine McBride outside #NYG locker room and he said he would "love to be back" here next year. #UFA
Sucks for him since he signed a "slot guy" contract. Perhaps a hold out brewing if Nicks leaves and Cruz becomes the #1?
Nothing definitive from #Giants on Coughlin coming back for 2014, likely b/c there's very little doubt. Could get something official Mon
Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 1m
Giants were 7-4 in games in which Jon Beason played significant snaps.
Ebenezer Samuel @ebenezersamuel 2m
Jernigan's touchdown catch, by the way, came on "a route that Victor and Eli always run," Jernigan said.
So at this moment, we know the Jets' head coach is coming back but not the Giants'.
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We didn't have the season we expected to have but we finished strong! 7-3 in our last 10 games. I gave it my all today for this great organization & for my teammates! I'm truly blessed & honored to be a NY Giant! #Gmen #Giants
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explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
They caught the Lions in a tailspin lost to any decent team they met. Beating crappy teams and losing to decent teams is what mediocre teams do best. It wasn't a great coaching job, just a reflection of the order of the schedule, tough up front, easy on the backside.
Many teams rolled over this season. The Giants, with the worst stay in the league did not despite not having the houses to complete with the best teams in the league. Perspective.
They should shed almost half the offensive players on the roster. They were putrid on O most of the season.
Antrel Rolle says he doesn't to play for any other head coach other than Tom Coughlin. Rolle explains ... "I want him back. I wouldnt want to play for anyone else. Hes an outstanding coach, hes even more of a phenomenal person. This is exactly what we need here in this locker room, I think its been proven. We just got out to a real slow start. It had nothing at all to do with coach Coughlin, we got off to a slow start and started picking it up as time went on.'' #nyg
The Jaguars, Falcons, Bucs all improved as the season went on. The Browns have played decently all season.
Justin Pugh: "This is gonna be fuel to the fire." #NYG
Did you sleep through the 70's?
And the DL run defense is absolutely a strength - take a look at the stats of some of the RB opponents....
Quote from Terrell Thomas that I don't know what to make of: "I'm very humbled. I'm very proud of myself."
stupid writers, that TT is playing is a borderline miracle, and that he survived an entire season intact is definitely a miracle
FA Terrell Thomas said after the game he also wants to stay with the Giants. #NYG
I asked Terrell Thomas if there was any doubt Tom Coughlin should coach the #NYG in 2014. T2: "Not at all."
Beason in the middle is the guy we needed
I thought the DB's when healthy also looked good.
Would Justin Tuck be surprised if Coughlin didnt return? 'Id be very surprised. Shocked. U tell me somebody that does it better.' #NYG
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WTF?
OK, no worries...
DT are fine (better with Linval of course); safeties are very good.
I'm not saying they're lying, but what kind of stupid question/quote are those?!!
Oh, boy.
Antrel on TC: "I wouldn'’t want to play for anyone else."
Sphinx... that was not intended towards you, but the beat writers who ask those questions and think its worth reporting.
Its like the question for TC in the post game presser about coming back... what idiot asked that?!! They think he's going to tell the media he wants to quit before ownership, or conversely he risks saying he wants back only to be fired a few days later!!
Losers: Nicks and Brown .
In Nicks case the problem is more what Jernigan did than any poor play by Nicks. Brown has some fumbles this year that combined with his injury history make him a bigger risk.
Oh, boy.
As bad as that sounds, I think there's some truth to it. Thats why I'd be very cautious bringing him back despite having a very good year overall.
At the right price yes, but I think he's put himself out of Giants price range. Letting a guy walk a year too early better than a year too late scenario... I dont think Tuck can repeat such a year with his injury history.
I dont think there's a big difference between their record and ability or draft position... it all evens out.
2) Jernigan played his way into a roster spot for next year, and possibly an expanded role. Could his play impact the decision on Nicks?
3) Joseph and Beason must be re-signed on D. Both are essential.
4) I would like to have Tuck return, but only at a very cap friendly deal.
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this team has a "strength", as someone suggested (in reference to LJ and the DL), is ludicrous. There are no areas of strength on this team. It is the worst Giants team I have watched in more than fifty years.
There is no way this season was anywhere near as bad as the "fumble "
Did you sleep through the 70's?
And the DL run defense is absolutely a strength - take a look at the stats of some of the RB opponents....
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explaining my feelings later, but that was a terrific coaching job to take a clearly undermanned and hurting team at 0-6 and come out with 7 wins. Of course, how they got to 0-6 is a problem, but everything after that was a great job.
They caught the Lions in a tailspin lost to any decent team they met. Beating crappy teams and losing to decent teams is what mediocre teams do best. It wasn't a great coaching job, just a reflection of the order of the schedule, tough up front, easy on the backside.
Many teams rolled over this season. The Giants, with the worst stay in the league did not despite not having the houses to complete with the best teams in the league. Perspective.
Good post BBB
Here's the rest of the post-game locker room celebration, courtesy of the @Giants: here NYG
Giants averaged 83.3 rushing yards, their lowest season-long average since they rushed for 76.9 yards a game in 1945.
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... The last NFL team with at least nine defeats, all against teams .500 or better, was the 2009 Chicago Bears, who also finished 7-9.
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All 9 of the Giants losses were to teams that finished .500 or better, the first time thats happened since their 5-11 season in 1995 ...
The Giants were one of four teams this season to have its longest run by a receiver; the others were St. Louis, Cleveland and Green Bay.
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According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Jernigans 49-yard touchdown run was the longest by a Giants wide receiver since the 1970 merger.
Pugh is the only keeper on the OL and a gigantic investment must be made to protect Eli. The fact that Eli got a high ankle sprain is a blessing in disguise because that hit could have broken his ankle and it clearly illustrated the awful job Reese did with the offensive line in replacing Snee, Diehl, O'Hara, and Seubert.
The skill positions are also not good enough. Nicks will get his $8-9 million from another team; he didn't play like a #1 receiver to say the least, so he's gone. Cruz is a good receiver but not a #1; Randle will have to replace Nicks, and I still don't buy Jernigan as an effective option; where was he in games that mattered? We'll also have to draft a receiver high. The RB position without Wilson is also a huge hole. Neither Brown nor Hillis are every down backs and we can't assume Wilson will ever play again due to the spinal stenosis issue. The Giants will have to scout RB very carefully this time around
Lastly, all the offensive coaches and Quinn (special teams) have to go; I'd consider bringing Fewell back but if a better DC shakes loose you could just let his contract expire. If TC decides he can't accept a new offensive coordinator then we have to go in another direction for the head coach too, and I love TC
It is over and kudos to the guys on the field in the second half today b/c on a cold, rainy day with nothing to play for the Giants held their heads up high.
and, you cannot play defense an entire game without an offense to hold up their end of the bargain.
Giants tanked as high as 8th versus the run this year - 3rd string qb had nothing to do with that.
Who's the starting O-line: Pugh and 4 guys named "Who".
Who's the starting tight end: Somebody named "Anybody but him".
Starting at running back: Ike Donnough.
Starting quarterback: Eli Summore
On defense, we have:
D-line: Linval, Hankin, Damontre (offside) Moore and JPP back?
Linebackers: Beason, Williams and who?
D-backs: Prince, Antrel?, Hill, Stevie, Tremaine?
And special team that know how to cover punts and kicks?
Coaches:
Head Case: Tom Coughlin?
Defensive Co-ordinator: Tom Landry (snicker)
Offensive Co-ordinator: Vince Lombardi (another snicker)
Note: both Landry and Lombardi were defensive and offensive coaches for the Giants. Both have passed away - but would have done a better job than the knuckleheads currently in those positions. "We have a complex system but not the personnel to execute it" - and neither co-ordinator would "adjust the system to the personnel".
Special Teams Co-ordinator: "Anybody but the guy we have now"
Quarterbacks Coach: "Anybody but the guy we have now". Phil Simms? (nah, if Phil could coach it, wouldn't his kids have been better at it?)