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WFAN Today: Sid on, Giants talk, Bob Papa coming up:

drkenneth : 12/30/2013 11:53 am
Sid still on his "Eli is a very good QB" schtick.

WFAN should be very good today.
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This douche  
KWhite2250 : 12/30/2013 11:54 am : link
Is the most annoying host on radio. Its sad that he is the giants fan representative on wfan. Go back to smoking crack Sidney
RE: This douche  
27 : 12/30/2013 11:56 am : link
In comment 11422505 KWhite2250 said:
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Is the most annoying host on radio. Its sad that he is the giants fan representative on wfan. Go back to smoking crack Sidney


Sid is a diehard Giants fan and tells it how it is. Not sure if I'm in the minority here but I really enjoy him on the Fan and he is doing a good job today.
Can't listen to that idiot and his take on Eli  
micky : 12/30/2013 11:57 am : link
"Saying he if it wasn't for 2 lucky catches (Tyree & Manningham) Eli wouldn't had won two SB's"
He's clearly been trolling with the Eli schtick.  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 11:59 am : link
And a caller just called him out on it...Sid has back-peddled as Eli is now "a very good QB".

Caller asked who could have beat Favre in Green Bay..Sid makes some shit up that Favre was old, cold, he should won the game....

He's so full of shit.
Ugghh.  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:01 pm : link
Now- While discussing Andy Dalton, somehow Sid pulls Eli in the conversation, saying: "Eli wins during this time of the year, but he has had multiple one and dones."

That's not trolling???
Everyone is allowed their opinion  
KWhite2250 : 12/30/2013 12:05 pm : link
But just listening to him, he is an awful. He said if you think eli is great then you are looking througb giants colored glasses and you just dont know anything about football, then goes to commercial for 10 mins. Then he claims because he is a diehard fan his say is better then any random fan on the radio. F him.

You never realize how much better wfan is on its regular schedule, even if you have bad opinions of the normal hosts, until you hear the awful replacements during vacation
He's for sure  
NoPeanutz : 12/30/2013 12:06 pm : link
on bbi today. Talking now about this thread.
he's winning when people are talking about Sid  
micky : 12/30/2013 12:06 pm : link
go back to Florida and....
Micky...  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:15 pm : link
Yup...I'm a sucker. I'm off today, just chillin and listening to the FAN.
I don't understand tuning into a troll on the radio  
Exit 172 : 12/30/2013 12:16 pm : link
and getting worked up about his trolling.

Sid is a clown. Why give him any time in your day?
He tells it like it is according to sid.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:17 pm : link
You're listening to a man pining for a full-time gig at WFAN.

He's lobbying for a job like Adam Rubin.
Don't you mean  
Exit 172 : 12/30/2013 12:19 pm : link
he's lobby for a job at WFAN?
You'd think a guy with a well publicized  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:20 pm : link
drug & gambling problem would tread lightly. Surprised nobody asks him how good the coke is in Miami...lol
my god  
djm : 12/30/2013 12:23 pm : link
Sid is such a duchebag NYG fan.

The latest crap being parroted is that outside of Two super titles Coughlin and Eli's run here has been average.

There is so much wrong and stupid about that statement...Sid doesn't deserve the Giants. He should be a Dallas or Jets fan.

Yea, throw out the glorious titles and what has any coaching staff ever accomplished? What did parcells do without 86 and 90?

And what the fuck happened in 2005 2008 and even 2010? 11, 10 and 12 wins seasons I guess mean nothing? Fuck Sid in his stupid face.
oh  
djm : 12/30/2013 12:24 pm : link
and for the record I listened to this fuck wad for 15 minutes. Promptly turned it off and put on Sirius. He's not worth 10 minutes of my time let alone the gambling debts he accrued over the years.
Bob Papa on now:  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:25 pm : link
...
papa lacing into sid and "praising" the defense  
asbasb : 12/30/2013 12:27 pm : link
calling out offense for turnover and not being able to score.
Sid may be a fool, but he can't be that big of a fool to get all of  
Riggies : 12/30/2013 12:28 pm : link
you talking about him yet again.

Talk radio, at least the successful kind, isn't for thoughtful analysis and discussion. It never really has been, but it certainly isn't now.
hey micky!  
TommytheElephant : 12/30/2013 12:28 pm : link
How you doin bud?
Early on sid  
KWhite2250 : 12/30/2013 12:30 pm : link
Saying how he had been a diehard giants fan all his life except for 8yrs when the jets hurt him but thats another story. Well whats that story mr die hard?
Papa in full -all on the players mode.  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:30 pm : link
Fewell is awesome, Gilbride needs better players.

What a job.
Now Papa is defending Reese  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:32 pm : link
Talking about adding Connor and Beason, and DL additions.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 12/30/2013 12:32 pm : link
How was Manningham's catch 'lucky'? It was a great throw.
Sid is a massive douchebag  
moespree : 12/30/2013 12:32 pm : link
And he is one of the worst in all of sports talk radio, which is quite a high distinction, given that it's profession of douchebags.

I don't know why anyone finds him entertaining at all and I don't know why people keep putting him on the air.
RE: Now Papa is defending Reese  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:33 pm : link
In comment 11422646 drkenneth said:
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Talking about adding Connor and Beason, and DL additions.


To be fair, he also outlined the draft failures.
Papa finally touching on Reese's draft mid round  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:34 pm : link
draft blunders.
Sid drags Eli in coversation again..  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:35 pm : link
"Eli is overrated."

What???
Papa defending Eli..  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:37 pm : link
Making Sid look like a douche.
Fans calling in have said the same thing Papa just said  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:37 pm : link
And Sid dismisses it all as lucky plays.
Papa thinks Tuck is back.  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:38 pm : link
Tuck is New Yorker (at Yankee games, Knick games, his charity).

He has played very well. Not getting sacks, but getting good pressure, played run very well.
Tuck should be back...  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 12/30/2013 12:41 pm : link
but cant over pay... same with Joseph...
So to bob who takes the hit for  
BIG FRED : 12/30/2013 12:41 pm : link
the 0-6 start ,the 7-9 record ,being shut out 3 times in one year in today's nfl with a franchise qb (week 15 last year ,week 3 and week 15 this year ).Not being able to win a crap division where the winner had a rookie head coach while we have a 2 time super bowl mvp and a hall of fame head coach ? Cant take him seriously he is on the Giants payroll ..
Fair point on Justin Tuck  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:42 pm : link
made by Papa.

He's not Strahan or Umenyiora. What he was this season is who he is, arguably the best run stopping DE in the NFL and a good pass rusher.
RE: So to bob who takes the hit for  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:43 pm : link
In comment 11422694 BIG FRED said:
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the 0-6 start ,the 7-9 record ,being shut out 3 times in one year in today's nfl with a franchise qb (week 15 last year ,week 3 and week 15 this year ).Not being able to win a crap division where the winner had a rookie head coach while we have a 2 time super bowl mvp and a hall of fame head coach ? Cant take him seriously he is on the Giants payroll ..


If you listened to his comments, it sounds like everyone takes the hit. You can look at everyone and point out mistakes and miscues. Questionable coaching moves, questionable personnel moves, questionable player effort and decisionmaking.
Wow. What a great interview.  
baadbill : 12/30/2013 12:45 pm : link
Everyone on BBI has to listen to that interview. Wish Pappa would post here on BBI. Great, logical explanation why Fewel is back, Gilbride is back, and defense of Eli.

What I found most interesting, however, is what questions Pappa was asked. Sid asked very straight, tough questions about:

1. Both Coordinators
2. Reese
3. Manning.

Not one question about - nor one mention of - Coughlin. Almost as though it was agreed, as part of Pappa coming on live, that he would only agree to be on if there was no questions about Coughlin. Otherwise how do you do an interview where you question the Coordinators, the GM, the QB and not even mention the head coach by name even once the entire interview? How does that happen? It had to be intentional and agreed upon ... which means what exactly?
Another reason to fire Coughlin or reduce draft influence  
Mason : 12/30/2013 12:47 pm : link
Just off the top of my head, draft pick champion

Sintim - Coughlin and Sheridan
Petrus - Flaherty went on how this guy was a steal
Barden - Mike Sullivan
Beckum - Gilbride and Pope
JJ - Sullivan and Coughlin
Herlizch while not drafted John Mara. Please stop with the BC and ACC love.

You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz.

Tuck  
MookGiants : 12/30/2013 12:47 pm : link
is probably coming back as Papa said. He's very active in New York, his wifes family is from the Philadelphia area so they are very close to them. I think he'll take a little less to stay in the area
he'd better take a good bit less  
Greg from LI : 12/30/2013 12:49 pm : link
Most of his sacks came in two games. He generated very little pressure for most of the season. He's got a place in a rotation given his strong run defense but they need someone to generate more pressure.
RE: Another reason to fire Coughlin or reduce draft influence  
Greg from LI : 12/30/2013 12:50 pm : link
In comment 11422712 Mason said:
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You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz.


Wha?? So a guy that had the greatest season a Giants WR has ever had was "cockblocking" Jerrell fucking Jernigan? Based on a few garbage-time games at the end of this season? Talk about preposterous.
You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:50 pm : link
This is one of the more laughable things I've ever read on here.

C'mon, really? They gave JJ a lot of opportunity to do something noteworthy. He just didn't know what he was doing on the field for a while. Maybe he just got better over time.
Sid no arguing with caller on whether Simms  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:51 pm : link
is better than Eli.


Jesus Christ.
He straight up said Phil Simms was a better QB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:53 pm : link
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Caller asks Sid if his tired, annoying shtick  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 12:55 pm : link
works better in Miami then NYC. Sid says "I am very good at this."

No way WFAN hires him back while Francesca is still there.
I don't think he is "very good at this"  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 12:56 pm : link
It just seems like these callers are really gullible. It makes Giants fans look bad.
RE: hey micky!  
micky : 12/30/2013 12:58 pm : link
In comment 11422634 TommytheElephant said:
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How you doin bud?


Hey tommy..other than battle a touch of pneumonia right now, hanging in there doing alright. Hope all is good with you.
RE: This douche  
njm : 12/30/2013 1:00 pm : link
In comment 11422505 KWhite2250 said:
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Is the most annoying host on radio.


Nope. Carton is in a class by himself. But that doesn't mean I listen to either of them.

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Sid  
ECham : 12/30/2013 1:02 pm : link
Eli had no pressure and missed a wide open Nicks....

Guess he forgot that HIS ARM WAS HIT.
RE: You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz  
Mason : 12/30/2013 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11422723 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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This is one of the more laughable things I've ever read on here.

C'mon, really? They gave JJ a lot of opportunity to do something noteworthy. He just didn't know what he was doing on the field for a while. Maybe he just got better over time.


I was addressing the fact that people were hard on JJ. I always felt it had less to do with his talent vs opportunity. For the first time in 3 years he had an opportunity to play his slot position.
hahah  
Greg from LI : 12/30/2013 1:03 pm : link
These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.
Sid + Joe B =  
mac attack : 12/30/2013 1:03 pm : link
Radio Gold
Joe B putting Sid in his place as well.  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 1:03 pm : link
"Are you one of those Giants fans that hate their QB that won them 2 Super Bowls?"

Sid saying Eli missed a wide open Nicks yesterday...Go away Sid.
He is an older Giants fan  
Mason : 12/30/2013 1:05 pm : link
He isn't the first older fan to make that claim.
its funny to me;  
Pierced05 : 12/30/2013 1:05 pm : link
I don't think BBI collectively likes ANY sports show host on WFAN.. Sid's problems aside and his bashing on ELI gets annoying but at least he talks about the Giants. Everyone brings up Sirius like it's some superior product, I happen to think it's pretty boring listing to the NFL sirius crew with the exception of a few. oh and BTW, I also enjoy francesa, joe and evan and Boomer and carton so I guess Im in the minority because I find WFAN to be very enjoyable.
Sid  
ECham : 12/30/2013 1:07 pm : link
Eli had no pressure and missed a wide open Nicks....

Guess he forgot that HIS ARM WAS HIT.
RE: its funny to me;  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/30/2013 1:10 pm : link
In comment 11422793 Pierced05 said:
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I don't think BBI collectively likes ANY sports show host on WFAN.. Sid's problems aside and his bashing on ELI gets annoying but at least he talks about the Giants. Everyone brings up Sirius like it's some superior product, I happen to think it's pretty boring listing to the NFL sirius crew with the exception of a few. oh and BTW, I also enjoy francesa, joe and evan and Boomer and carton so I guess Im in the minority because I find WFAN to be very enjoyable.


It's because nobody talks about the Giants on that station. Everyone's a Jet fan or Francesa, who doesn't bother with it.

Sid talks Giants, but he's a lunatic, and it's a stupid discussion. He's still talking about the same topic (and congratulating himself) he brought up EIGHT SHOWS AGO.
Papa  
SethFromAstoria : 12/30/2013 1:11 pm : link
pretty much summed it up perfectly re: Eli Manning.
When I lived in Orlando, I would pick up on Sid's station  
Mason : 12/30/2013 1:18 pm : link
The guy talks up Giants football a lot. Callers used to get on him about talking up NY teams so much. At least he is earnest in how he feels. His cohost got on him for bashing Eli right after SB 42.
but with Sid...  
Pierced05 : 12/30/2013 1:18 pm : link
at least you get Giants talk. Just be happy they're discussing the Giants at all because when he hosts a show it's pretty much all Giants talk. He likes to bust balls a lot re Eli.. I love Eli but he deserves some bashing this year, I'm sure if he played well next year Sid would be praising him. I know plenty of Giants fans who have been bashing Eli this year, he does not get a pass at all. Next year around Christmas Sid will be discussing how amazing Eli played, but at least he will be discussing it.
If you dont think joe and evan talk giants  
KWhite2250 : 12/30/2013 1:23 pm : link
I dont know who you actually talk to. They have Banks on monday and fridays. They have Rolle on tuesday and they have dottino on all the time.
Sid's Wrong Abou Eli  
Samiam : 12/30/2013 1:25 pm : link
But he's far more interesting to listen to than 99% of the radio hosts on the WFAN and ESPN radio. He might be a degenerate off the air and he is clearly a self promoter on the air but I would love to see him come back to the NY area. I know he's posted on BBI but does anybody know what his screen name is and has he posted in awhile?
RE: hahah  
baadbill : 12/30/2013 1:26 pm : link
In comment 11422784 Greg from LI said:
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These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.


Greg, Simms was (and always will be) my favorite Giant and football player of all time. And he would be in the HOF right now if he was the starting QB in 1990 SB (although I think it's fair to question if Giants win that game without Hostetler's mobility) ... but Simms gets very little credit by Giants fans and, while I get that for fans who didn't see him play, I never understand the lack of respect for those that did. He was one tough as nails SOB and a perfect fit for those Giants teams. And, I've always said, I wouldn't have traded him for anyone, especially Mr. dink and dunk himself, Joe Montana.
Joe and Evan  
Pierced05 : 12/30/2013 1:26 pm : link
Do talk Giants I enjoy their show. I'm not one of the BBIers who come on and post how they hate every single wfan host. Would I prefer Sid to say Steve Somers... Yes I would
Sid is fucking awful.  
arcarsenal : 12/30/2013 1:27 pm : link
Flat out embarrassing. Had no interest in wasting my time listening to him today.
KWhite  
Samiam : 12/30/2013 1:28 pm : link
Joe and Evan do talk Giants with those guests but way more Jets talk all year regardless of what is happening and they even drag Banks into Jets talk as well. It's not even close the percentage of Jets to Giants talk.
Being that they are Jets fans  
KWhite2250 : 12/30/2013 1:32 pm : link
I can understand they will talk more about the jets. But in a 3 hour show I think they cover pretty much every team. And they actually arent giants haters like the clowns before them. Thats usually the only show i get to listen to during work and Im glad its them.
RE: RE: hahah  
Greg from LI : 12/30/2013 1:38 pm : link
In comment 11422891 baadbill said:
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In comment 11422784 Greg from LI said:


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These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.



Greg, Simms was (and always will be) my favorite Giant and football player of all time. And he would be in the HOF right now if he was the starting QB in 1990 SB (although I think it's fair to question if Giants win that game without Hostetler's mobility) ... but Simms gets very little credit by Giants fans and, while I get that for fans who didn't see him play, I never understand the lack of respect for those that did. He was one tough as nails SOB and a perfect fit for those Giants teams. And, I've always said, I wouldn't have traded him for anyone, especially Mr. dink and dunk himself, Joe Montana.


Yep. Simms gets treated like just some random schmuck by quite a few around here. He was a damned good QB who was utterly fearless and who succeeded despite playing with mediocre offensive talent and a prohibitively conservative offense.

Bill Walsh only drafted Montana because the Giants picked Simms first. The Niners didn't have a first round pick in 1979 because they traded it for OJ Simpson, but they had the first pick in the second round. Walsh told Simms at their last workout before the draft that they were certain no one was going to take him in the first and that he would be their pick in the second. Had Simms been a Niner, I don't know that he would have been as great as Montana but he'd be viewed a hell of a lot differently today.
RE: Sid is a massive douchebag  
Victor in CT : 12/30/2013 1:54 pm : link
In comment 11422650 moespree said:
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And he is one of the worst in all of sports talk radio, which is quite a high distinction, given that it's profession of douchebags.

I don't know why anyone finds him entertaining at all and I don't know why people keep putting him on the air.


agreed. he is Russo without the speech impediment and grating voice. moron.
Greg ...  
Mike in Raleigh : 12/30/2013 1:57 pm : link
I agree re: Simms vs. Eli .... No question in my mind ... Simms was an UNBELIEVABLE almost iron-clad, tough-as-nails QB that played with at best a hodge-podge of receivers (except Bavaro).
RE: Another reason to fire Coughlin or reduce draft influence  
Victor in CT : 12/30/2013 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11422712 Mason said:
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Just off the top of my head, draft pick champion

Sintim - Coughlin and Sheridan
Petrus - Flaherty went on how this guy was a steal
Barden - Mike Sullivan
Beckum - Gilbride and Pope
JJ - Sullivan and Coughlin
Herlizch while not drafted John Mara. Please stop with the BC and ACC love.

You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz.


So Jernigan has two decent games playing out the string and now he should ave been ahead of Cruz all along? Sorry, he still sucks. Too small, not talented enough.
Greg from LI RE: Simms/Montana  
baadbill : 12/30/2013 2:01 pm : link
In comment 11422944 Greg from LI said:
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... Had Simms been a Niner, I don't know that he would have been as great as Montana but he'd be viewed a hell of a lot differently today.


And I don't think Montana would have necessarily fared nearly as well as Simms had Montana found himself playing with the 1979-1986 Giants. No Jerry Rice. Roger Craig. No passes for 2 yards turning into 60+ yard TDs. Nope. Stand there, throw the ball, and watch from the ground to try to see if it was complete. That was the life of Phil Simms. And was great at it.
Banks on now:  
drkenneth : 12/30/2013 2:09 pm : link
..
I was driving back down to Maryland on Saturday  
Bramton1 : 12/30/2013 2:25 pm : link
And listening to Sid Rosenberg and Jody MacDonald. What the hell? Did I time travel back to 2001?
oh cmon  
djm : 12/30/2013 2:51 pm : link
no one worth a shit puts Simms in the "random schmuck" category. Both QBs were special in their own right. You want to tell me Simms would be the better QB for this Giants team? I can't argue with that. But Eli does have the bigger and flat out better body of work. He never misses games and he did lead the Giants to two complete super bowl titles. Simms threw a sweet ball and was as tough as a boot. Eli and Simms brought different strengths and weaknesses to the field. Both might have played better with more talent or in a different system but we can only go by wins losses and stats, do a degree. No harm in liking one over the other. But Eli has the bigger body of work. It is what it is.

One game? I don't think you could wrong with either guy.
getting back to the Sid crap, I have no problem  
djm : 12/30/2013 2:55 pm : link
with someone questioning Eli's value or potential going forward even if some of the doom and gloom is probably a bit far fetched, but I can see how a Giants fan would be a little nervous about 2014 and beyond. But Sid is a fuck wad when he disparages Eli's accomplishments through the 2012 season. The guy hasn't been perfect but you can't take his legendary play in 07 and 2011. And he's been solid throughout most of his career period. You can't take that away. Sid is a troll. Fuck him and fuck anyone who goes the Eli got lucky route. That's just terrible stupid talk.
you can't take AWAY Eli's 2007 and 2011  
djm : 12/30/2013 2:56 pm : link
typo..
djm  
Greg from LI : 12/30/2013 2:57 pm : link
It's perfectly valid to make a case for Eli over Simms. What bugs me is the dismissive tone some people take in those discussions, though, as if it's lunacy to suggest that Simms might have been the better QB.

Me? I'm a Simms guy all the way, but I don't discount my own biases and I'm plenty willing to concede that you can convincingly argue the other way.
djm  
baadbill : 12/30/2013 2:57 pm : link
I'm not going to ever argue that. I wasn't comparing Eli and Simms (Montana and Sims, yes, but not Eli)... It took me a long time to accept Eli but I got past that before he won his first SB ... for me it's been all gravy ever since ... fact is that it took 20 years to replace Simms and it will probably take as long, if not longer, to replace Eli. Most Eli bashers don't seem to understand that.
agree with both of you  
djm : 12/30/2013 3:48 pm : link
anyone saying it's a slam dunk on for either guy is just being stupid.
geez sid even has to get on joe and evans show  
micky : 12/30/2013 3:51 pm : link
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