Mara and Reese on with Francesa today

Francesa hasn't appeared to be as angry with the Giants as many of us. Francesa has defended the Giants on so many circumstances (i.e. Diehl's play in 2012).

The Giants have a very polished way of answering questions without really saying much. Kudos to Reese for his style but I hope Francesa digs a little deeper.

Not sure what to expect from this interview.

Should be a good listen. I'm more interested to hear if he grills Reese on his less than stellar draft record from 2008-2012.

or individually?

mainly because as a GM, he can't give anything but canned answers.

Is just as good as any of the playoff contenders

He could ask Mara and Reese how concerned they are about Warren Beatty's injury.

dats a bad job by Weese Mikey. Mawa should be fiwing him.

In comment 11444879 Rflairr said:

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Is just as good as any of the playoff contenders

you should check some of them before you say that.

I posted a long analysis last week. From 2008-2012, the Giants had 28 picks in rounds 2 through 7, only 7 are even in the league and only 2 are impact players. 25% in the league, 7% impact players.

In comment 11444881 Exit 172 said:

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He could ask Mara and Reese how concerned they are about Warren Beatty's injury.

And "Ozzie Umen-Aura"

had one solid draft his first. Below average after that

but lately people have been commenting like the whole organization suddenly doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

Aight wea bak. We got Jerrey Rees and Jon Marah on. Ok, Jon wea know da awfense was brokin how do youah plan on fixin dat?

objectively it's clear that the foundation was beginning to age even as they were winning SB46 and the players drafted were not going to be able to replace them.

one question about Gilbride then transition to the Super Bowl preparations.

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 58s
John Mara is scheduled to be on @WFAN660 with @MikeFrancesaNY today at 2:05 followed by Jerry Reese at 2:40. #NYG

I agree. That's why I have stayed away lately.

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4m
John Mara is scheduled to be on @WFAN660 with @MikeFrancesaNY today at 2:05 followed by Jerry Reese at 2:40. #NYG

In comment 11445047 Eric from BBI said:

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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4m John Mara is scheduled to be on @WFAN660 with @MikeFrancesaNY today at 2:05 followed by Jerry Reese at 2:40. #NYG

Thanks E

on ESPN...

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 6m
Jerry Reese is also expected to join Kay and Lagreca on @ESPNNY98_7FM at 3:30 today. #NYG

What have a I done to deserve this generosity

both interviews so he could get back to talking about tennis ans tv ratings.

In comment 11445043 UberAlias said:

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I agree. That's why I have stayed away lately.

Me too, way too many bitches around here.

In comment 11444979 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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but lately people have been commenting like the whole organization suddenly doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

I would say that is a fair assessment of this organization's 2013 season. Sometimes I wondered if everyone in the organization had been invaded by body snatchers. I was so close to calling Randy about it. Really, I was.

How's youah golf swing.....and what do youah think about Craig Biggio missin' out on da Hawl of Fame by two votes yestuhday?

"When youah got ridda dat Supah Bowl/Big Game clawk, why didn't youah put anothah clock up in its place countin' down da days 'n hours until February da 1st?"

maybe it's a generational thing, I don't know. But reading BBI you would think the Giants organization is one of the dredges of the league instead of one of it's best.

No team has a better list of accomplishments over the past 7 years than the Giants and this FO

Reese will give you nothing at all..

...His comments are the ones that I want to hear.

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is on now.

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too many questions on Super Bowl.

didn't see 0-6 coming.

Overvalue personnel.

We need to get better players.

and need to get some better players

Staggering number of injuries...91 games lost by starters...no one else even close...not excuse for starting off 0-6.

instead of "idea"

Jernigan...mystery...but Jernigan had been hurt quite a bit...slowed development...

on statement made prior on JJ.... injuries hindered his development

coaches always want to play veteran players. Young players tend to make mental mistakes.

Goes back as far as he can remember with every coach.

with the JJ injuries...TC started this and it is vastly overblown...Mara covering for TC....he was injured very slightly-nothing to hamper his development like this-ridiculous....

In comment 11445652 Eric from BBI said:

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Staggering number of injuries...91 games lost by starters...no one else even close...not excuse for starting off 0-6.

This is the article that Mara is referring to

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20140107-gosselin-injuries-are-no-excuse-for-another-mediocre-dallas-cowboys-season.ece

Giants #1 in the NFL in games lost due to injury.

NFC East

NYG - 91
DAL - 62
PHI - 29
WSH - 22

Gilbride retired...was not forced out...people have short memories...

Most unpopular guy is always OC.

Change will be good for us going forward.

Fans have sorry memories of what he accomplished.

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basically admitted he was going to be fired he didnt retire

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Age is not a factor with Coughlin. Works just as hard. Players still listen to him. They pay attention. He still has ability to teach and motivate.

Yes...he said it was fortunate it didn't come to them firing him.

In comment 11445664 Eric from BBI said:

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Gilbride retired...was not forced out...people have short memories... Most unpopular guy is always OC.

But there was an implication that Gilbride retired before a decision could be made -- obviously Gilbride fell on the sword.

is a good thing and needs to be done.

teach what-he has to teach the right things-not the "broken" offense....

And they still sucked!

Hahahahaha!

Continuity is a strength if you have right people in place, but you also need to shake some things up.

Doesn't merit blowing whole thing up. There is a time to do that, but not now.

Lot of injuries...missed on too many draft picks...FA's haven't worked out.

we had a lot of injuries and missed on some draft picks

Coughlin better show us a lot more next year than some of the crap we saw from him this year.

wouldn't trade playoff appearances for super bowl wins

that the TC is being absolved of anything-yet he wants new "ideas"-TC is the offensive system.

but wouldn't trade Super Bowls for it.

Offense...we need help on offense and address in draft and probably FA.

I think Reese should have seen injury risk and breakdowns coming

Second Dallas game was the crusher.

We have to have strong draft.

Likes 2013 draft class...first three players will be very good players for long time.

In comment 11445709 Steve in South Jersey said:

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I think Reese should have seen injury risk and breakdowns coming

hand in hand not playing younger players to prepare them.

agree

Eli and receivers did not play well.

RB's all hurt.

In comment 11445715 micky said:

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agree

therefore it is on Reese. He buys the groceries

thanks for the heads up

Lost our top two RBs.

Hopeful Wilson will play again, but time will tell. Has talent. Can't be only RB. Need rotation. Hopefully get Brown back and maybe look at draft.

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Tough FA decisions on who to bring back.


All about allocation of resources. Salary cap.

Love to have Tuck back.

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Would have to be right number with Tuck.

Nicks...still think he can be very good player. If not with us, hopefully with someone else. Not his best year. Had a lot of company. Still think quality receiver.

additional playoff teams.

not a quick fix

but listen with open mind

we should compete-not only that-in the coaching room is just as important....

want to play less than 3 preseason games.

it would be more of a chance to see what Nassib would be and what they have.

new OC...won't see it this week. Talking with 4...maybe some more.

not likely to name a OC this week

Patriots success.

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or John Wilkes Boothe

on WFAN next, then Reese on ESPN Radio at 3:30.

Good questions, good answers

this is Tom's offense...will remain Tom's offense.

"You wanted change, and that's fine, but it's Tom's offense and will remain Tom's offense."

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In comment 11445783 Eric from BBI said:

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this is Tom's offense...will remain Tom's offense.

He's right. And that is how it should be. If you don't like the offense or defense, or ST or than change the head coach.

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But this Mara interview sounds like a cleaned up version of last weeks press conference.Hopefully he didn't praise Jerry Reese after saying we need better players.

will call it differently and that's WHERE the change will be

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Pugh...play anywhere...LT, RT, RG, LG, OC.

KK.

including C.

broken leg...expect back.

Want Brewer to play better.

Mosley...they like.

Have age on OL.

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DAMMIT

Reese never says anything. This time last season they liked Brewer.

the the option routes-will continue. Easy throws to TE and RB will not happen. Screens will not be emphasized. Players will not be in proper position-will have to adjust to system.

stay healthy and focus.

Tuck still has tread left on tires.

Tough decisions to make.

did he mention Herman? I didn't hear that.

In comment 11445783 Eric from BBI said:

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this is Tom's offense...will remain Tom's offense.

100%.

I have never figured out why folks haven't figured this out yet.

yes he did

Many here were ecstatic where Brewer and Mosley were taken. Many agreed with Reese's choice of these guys as projects with a bunch of potential.

Young players have to play early. Can't just sit them down and expect them to be good after a couple years.

PLAY YOUNG PLAYERS. if this is accomplished-huge start-if they force this upon TC. New offensive system will be huge if they switch from TC's offense.

look at him differently...has a neck issue...staff thinks he will be able to play, but necks are tricky.

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@TomRock_Newsday Jerry Reese says David Wilson will have surgery on his neck this offseason. On WFAN.

So what in the world are they waiting for!?

will have neck surgery.

Jernigan...takes time for players to develop. Victor Cruz plays same spot...didn't get a chance...another thing...he kept getting hurt with nagging injuries.

Sounds like there's going to be a pretty clear message to Coughlin that he needs to give young guys more of a chance.

combo of coming on just as Cruz came on and part of it also injuries

Jason Cole ‏@JasonPhilCole 39s
Word I hear is that #Falcons personnel man Lionel Vital has inside track on #Bucs GM job. Marc Ross, Morocco Brown, Lake Dawson also in mix.

the Lions had nothing to play for week 16 ?

Randle...faded at end. Didn't produce a lot at end.

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I wouldn't say that. That didn't come across in the interviews.

Nassib...he's going to be fighting for #2 spot. If Eli isn't healthy, we hope he can win some games for us.

in practice, he has more confidence and grasp of NFL. More comfortable as year went along.

You won't know if the new OC will be allowed to install his own scheme until Tommy speaks after the hire.

Eric.. it absolutely did.

Both Mara and Reese have alluded to younger players needing more experience and needing to get a chance.

you could see in practice of grasping the concepts and etc.

Head coaches get fired for young players mistakes costing games.

that they have the past few years (ughhh)...Thought Myers would catch on.

Tight end...Brandon Myers...wasn't as productive as envisioned...had to use TE more as blocker than like.

OL...if have resources, will look at FA. Will look at in draft. But need help at lots of positions.

Da da da

don't have right big people, hard to win.

pinning hopes on Brewer and Mosely it will be a huge mistake.

Those guys, any more than backups, are going to put us in a similar position to last year.

You better not ever listen to Sandy Alderson then

about younger guys needing to play, so it seems that did come from the interviews.

What a pick.

no discussion of the LB position, the ST coach, their approach with Nicks, his approach to the OL.

In comment 11445891 Dave in Hoboken said:

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What a pick.

Agreed. Fighting to try and get the back up position to a QB that hasn't missed a game in years. Worthy of a 4th round pick? Yeahhhhh.

aren't playing because they aren't good enough? Was anybody overly impressed with Brewer? Does Moseley inspire confidence? If these guys were ready they would have played. I don't by the favoritism crap. And the JJ narrative is becoming tiresome. 2 games doesn't wipe away 3 yrs of looking lost when he managed to be healthy and on the field. It's stupid to bust on the coaching staff for him.

In comment 11445891 Dave in Hoboken said:

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What a pick.

agreed. just incredibly stupid. and they gave up a pick to get him.

in round 4. If you reasonably project Eli to play 5-7 more years, then what would you be grooming him for? If you need a backup in case of injury, you get a proven backup vet who could take over and keep you competitive. By the time Eli's ready to retire, Nassib will be long gone. Made no sense to me

In comment 11445921 Victor in CT said:

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aren't playing because they aren't good enough?

At least you'd know.

Brewer has been here for three years. Only now are we learning that he can't play.

I think Reese's point with the younger guys was that a lot of times you don't really know if they can or can't play until they get a chance.

Obviously if a guy looks like total shit in practice or hasn't shown anything he shouldn't just be put into a game for no reason, but..

I'm not even saying he's entirely right. But he clearly said that you see a lot of teams around the league with young guys contributing on the field and basically insinuated that he'd like to see more of that here. He himself is kind of the starting point for getting kids good enough to play in here, though.

get Eli killed while Brewer & Mosley make mistakes.

In comment 11445949 Steve in South Jersey said:

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get Eli killed while Brewer & Mosley make mistakes.

have you heard of David Diehl? He's the worst of the bunch.

because the team has won 2 Super Bowls in 7 years.

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In comment 11445921 Victor in CT said: Quote: aren't playing because they aren't good enough? At least you'd know. Brewer has been here for three years. Only now are we learning that he can't play.

We fans are just learning. I think TC and the staff probably figured it out alot sooner. If they didn't Diehl and Boothe or Cordle would not have been brought back

In comment 11445927 Big Blue '56 said:

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in round 4. If you reasonably project Eli to play 5-7 more years, then what would you be grooming him for? If you need a backup in case of injury, you get a proven backup vet who could take over and keep you competitive. By the time Eli's ready to retire, Nassib will be long gone. Made no sense to me

Exactly.

Victor Cruz was about a hair away from being cut. Then he got a chance in a game and the rest is history.

but we do demand excellence. The emphasis on developing young talent faster will go against TCs instincts but is right. Lets hope they can get him to listen, and that Reese picks the right guys in the draft.

Reese coming on ESPN Radio in a couple of minutes.

Dropping hints!!!!

the Nassib pick (and giving up a pick) looks ridiculous.

This is the type of drafting the Giants need to get away from (going for the project/reach/homerun pick) and instead go for the more "sure" pick that can help the football team in a hurry.

can't explain 0-6...blame personnel (himself), players, coaches.

Always fear losing your job.

Gilbride...wouldn't answer if they would have fired him if not retired.

won't answer if Eli will get contract extension.

won't say OL was main problem. Combination of lot of things.

Defense kept Giants in games. 8th in NFL.

2012 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati
2012 Brandon Mosley T Auburn
2011 James Brewer T Indiana
2010 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska
2009 Andre Brown RB North rolina State
2008 Bryan Kehl LB Brigham Young
2007 Zak DeOssie LB Brown
2006 Barry Cofield DT Northwestern
2006 Guy Whimper T East Carolina
2005 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois
2004 Reggie Torbor DE Auburn
2003 Roderick Babers DB Texas
2001 Cedric Scott DE Southern Mississippi
2001 Jesse Palmer QB Florida
2000 Brandon Short LB Penn State
1999 Sean Bennett RB Northwestern
1997 Pete Monty LB Wisconsin
1996 Danny Kanell QB Florida tate
1995 Rob Zatechka G Nebraska
1995 Ben Talley LB Tennessee
1994 Tito Wooten DB Louisiana-Monroe (Supplemental)
1994 Chris Maumalanga DT Kansas
1993 Greg Bishop T Pacific

Since Keith Hamilton in 1992, our fourth-rounders have been Jacobs, Cofield and 1,427 JAGs - or worse. (OK, a few other guys like Wooten flashed, but not for long.) Obviously, you never want to waste a pick - especially one you traded up for - but the hand-wringing over Nassib is just silly.

Tuck...has to make sense for us to re-sign him.

JPP...shoulder kept him out more than back.

Need better punt returner.

In comment 11446061 Big Blue Blogger said:

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2012 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati 2012 Brandon Mosley T Auburn 2011 James Brewer T Indiana 2010 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska 2009 Andre Brown RB North rolina State 2008 Bryan Kehl LB Brigham Young 2007 Zak DeOssie LB Brown 2006 Barry Cofield DT Northwestern 2006 Guy Whimper T East Carolina 2005 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois 2004 Reggie Torbor DE Auburn 2003 Roderick Babers DB Texas 2001 Cedric Scott DE Southern Mississippi 2001 Jesse Palmer QB Florida 2000 Brandon Short LB Penn State 1999 Sean Bennett RB Northwestern 1997 Pete Monty LB Wisconsin 1996 Danny Kanell QB Florida tate 1995 Rob Zatechka G Nebraska 1995 Ben Talley LB Tennessee 1994 Tito Wooten DB Louisiana-Monroe (Supplemental) 1994 Chris Maumalanga DT Kansas 1993 Greg Bishop T Pacific Since Keith Hamilton in 1992, our fourth-rounders have been Jacobs, Cofield and 1,427 JAGs - or worse. (OK, a few other guys like Wooten flashed, but not for long.) Obviously, you never want to waste a pick - especially one you traded up for - but the hand-wringing over Nassib is just silly.

Wow, I didn't realize how poorly the organization has done in the fourth round. I thought it was more of a recent phenomenon.

maybe its not so bad.

answer why Hakeem skipped workouts.

Chris Snee could be back. Depends on health and desire.

In comment 11445661 nygiants1114 said:

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with the JJ injuries...TC started this and it is vastly overblown...Mara covering for TC....he was injured very slightly-nothing to hamper his development like this-ridiculous....

And when he wasn't injured, he sucked. As it stands right now, you've got a player who has done nothing for three years until the last two games of his third year.

2012 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati
2012 Brandon Mosley T Auburn
2011 James Brewer T Indiana
2009 Andre Brown RB North
2007 Zak DeOssie LB Brown
2006 Barry Cofield DT Northwestern
2006 Guy Whimper T East Carolina
2005 Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois
2004 Reggie Torbor DE Auburn
2000 Brandon Short LB Penn State
1994 Tito Wooten DB Louisiana-Monroe (Supplemental)

Robinson, Mosley and Brewer, still too early to tell...Zak, BJ, Wooten, Torbor and Short Cofield, are/were decent to good players..Whimper was versatile and had some production.

It could be argued that we would have been better off addressing a position other than QB in the 4th..Also, different regimes pick differently, so to draw much conclusion from the picks could be a wasted exercise

In comment 11446098 HomerJones45 said:

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In comment 11445661 nygiants1114 said: Quote: with the JJ injuries...TC started this and it is vastly overblown...Mara covering for TC....he was injured very slightly-nothing to hamper his development like this-ridiculous.... And when he wasn't injured, he sucked. As it stands right now, you've got a player who has done nothing for three years until the last two games of his third year.

Thank you HJ45!

that will never play is because Reese knew we always sucked at drafting players in this particular round anyway.

but a piece at that which people seem to never mention about the Nassib pick; although his direct impact isn't readily apparent on the field, he can provide a nice insurance to Eli while also providing a nice cap savings moving forward.

Everyone is so caught up in saying he'll never play and if he is needed due to an Eli injury we could just sign a vet ... but with him you have a 2nd string QB locked up for $500K-788K for the next 4 years. Kyle Orton this year made 2 mil. Jason Campbell is making 2.3 mill next year. Those types of veteran backups who could come in and can win a game or two take up a chunk of cap space. For a team that is cash strapped for the next couple of years, and assuming Nassib progresses into a QB who can win games, at the worst he frees up some cap space for what it would cost for a backup QB.

if there was another week of games I doubt that Eli could have played.

it's Eli. Wanna bet? ;)

nonsense.

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Have age on OL.

Then they must absolutely let Diehl retire and hope Snee does too. Can't afford to bring both players back like that. Baas is another.

but I still buy insurance. Same thing with back-up QBs.

yeah, but you buy it from a company with a good reputaion that you know will pay off. You don't buy it from some startup with no track record.

Reese said today he expects Nassib to "compete" for the #2. He was playing scout team safety for Christ sakes.

If we were all confident he is the #2 next year, and capable of winning a game???= Good pick.

Nobody on this offense has played at a functional levelfor a year and half now.

Nassib's head is probably fucking spinning. Another reason Coughlin needs to change things up a bit.

They were forced to play Pugh due to the injuries. Deihl was going to be the RT. That alone tells you they wanted veterans in there whether they could play or not.

With the limited number of practices, how do you accurately tell if a young player is ready. Only way is give him 1st team reps and let him play. They never did that until forced, and still played Deihl. There was no way 1 of the other guys could be worse than being a turnstile.

The Bears basically said screw it, we are playing 2 rookies on the right side. Dallas played a rookie C. NO benched their starting LT to go with a younger guy.

In comment 11446098 HomerJones45 said:

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In comment 11445661 nygiants1114 said: Quote: with the JJ injuries...TC started this and it is vastly overblown...Mara covering for TC....he was injured very slightly-nothing to hamper his development like this-ridiculous.... And when he wasn't injured, he sucked. As it stands right now, you've got a player who has done nothing for three years until the last two games of his third year.

You have no idea he sucked-you assume.... he got soo little playing that drawing any conclusion you draw is asinine. when he got even somewhat decent snaps-dominant.

In comment 11445961 Victor in CT said:

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In comment 11445934 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 11445921 Victor in CT said: Quote: aren't playing because they aren't good enough? At least you'd know. Brewer has been here for three years. Only now are we learning that he can't play. We fans are just learning. I think TC and the staff probably figured it out alot sooner. If they didn't Diehl and Boothe or Cordle would not have been brought back

again Diehl was going to start at RT...Same things would have been said about Pugh. TC....