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Ramses Barden signed by the Bills

G.O.B. : 1/16/2014 6:51 pm
per a Schefter tweet:
Bills signed former Giants WR Ramses Barden.
New WR  
mrvax : 1/16/2014 6:52 pm : link
coach.
I am curious  
AnishPatel : 1/16/2014 6:53 pm : link
see how he does in another system.
I can't wait to see him  
mattlawson : 1/16/2014 6:55 pm : link
Get some TDs. Wish him the best
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rdt288 : 1/16/2014 7:07 pm : link
Good for him. I'm also curious to see how he impacts a different scheme
Absolutely hope he does well for Bills  
Jimmy Googs : 1/16/2014 7:09 pm : link
It will give Reese some props for the pick, although Barden had more than a good opportunity to stick with the Giants if he had performed.
Marrone  
RetroJint : 1/16/2014 7:16 pm : link
Is a genuine hard ass. Barden's sorry act won't make it to camp.
sorry act? Barden might do really well. he got the Jernigan treatment  
gtt350 : 1/16/2014 7:21 pm : link
here. He was never used in the red zone where he knew how to use his body really well. I used to watch him in camp all the time and thought just give this guy a chance to play
I agree with gtt350  
prdave73 : 1/16/2014 7:29 pm : link
The kid was not utilized correctly. Kinda hard to gets snap as a 5th or 6th wr in the depth chart, even jerrigan didn't get any snaps?.. I still think the kid has talent and maybe he will get a chance to showcase it with the bills.
Nobody  
AcidTest : 1/16/2014 7:39 pm : link
wanted him during the regular season. The Bills are just taking a look see because of his size IMO. He can't get separation.
probably a minimal deal  
fkap : 1/16/2014 7:43 pm : link
doesn't hurt to take a look. At best, he finds a home. At worst, he's camp fodder.
RE: Nobody  
AnishPatel : 1/16/2014 7:44 pm : link
In comment 11460258 AcidTest said:
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wanted him during the regular season. The Bills are just taking a look see because of his size IMO. He can't get separation.


AT that's fine. Throw it high and take adv. of his height. You can use him in the red zone too.
People are still clinging to this guy having decent NFL ability?  
Riggies : 1/16/2014 7:49 pm : link
Tall Sinorice, indeed.
Jernigan Treatment?  
clatterbuck : 1/16/2014 7:54 pm : link
Barden got plenty of opportunities here. He just isn't that good.
RE: I am curious  
SHO'NUFF : 1/16/2014 7:56 pm : link
In comment 11460172 AnishPatel said:
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see how he does in another system.


why, I happen to know a certain team in blue that just invested in another system...what a coincidence!
The Giants  
Doomster : 1/16/2014 8:53 pm : link
signed a bunch of guys this week...all Bardens....
Always thought  
TMS : 1/16/2014 9:00 pm : link
he never got enough opportunity here. We will see if he comes back and makes us wish he had.
It's the NFL.  
Exit 172 : 1/16/2014 9:09 pm : link
It's rarely as simple as throwing the ball up high for a tall receiver to go get it. Otherwise, there would be a run on 6'5" and 6'6" receivers in the early rounds of the draft each April.

You have to read coverages. You have to beat jams at the line of scrimmage. You have to run crisp routes. You have to get position on defenders, even when you've got a height advantage on them. You have to have hands. And you need to get yards after the catch. Staying healthy is nice, too. So is contributing on specials.

How many of those things does Barden do well?
RE: I agree with gtt350  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 1/16/2014 9:16 pm : link
In comment 11460249 prdave73 said:
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The kid was not utilized correctly. Kinda hard to gets snap as a 5th or 6th wr in the depth chart, even jerrigan didn't get any snaps?.. I still think the kid has talent and maybe he will get a chance to showcase it with the bills.
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Not utilized correctly? He couldn't beat press coverage of any kind. Period. Tough to climb that depth chart when you can't get out into your route. I was high on him when we drafted him, but the guy was incredibly soft for a man his size.
I would love to get Marcus Easley from the Bills  
old timer : 1/16/2014 9:36 pm : link
Led the NFL in special team tackles with over 20 (18 solo) and has an upside as a WR.
He had one chance  
Dry Lightning : 1/16/2014 9:51 pm : link
and played like an all-pro. That Carolina game in 2012 was outstanding. We completely wasted his talents.
RE: He had one chance  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/16/2014 9:57 pm : link
In comment 11460432 Dry Lightning said:
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and played like an all-pro. That Carolina game in 2012 was outstanding. We completely wasted his talents.


He played like an all pro for one game against a beaten up secondary. what talents? he never even stood out in preseason games.
^^ wow  
Mad Mike : 1/16/2014 9:58 pm : link
Barden won't be on the Bills', or anyone else's, opening day roster.
Those arrows were meant towards Dry Lightning, not TTH.  
Mad Mike : 1/16/2014 9:59 pm : link
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This could come back to haunt the Giants.  
arcarsenal : 1/16/2014 10:01 pm : link
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he's so bad I thought it said Bulls  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/16/2014 10:03 pm : link
thinking it was some random CFL team.
I'm sure some asshole  
Carl in CT : 1/16/2014 10:16 pm : link
Will start one of those thank you appreciation thread which are so annoying!
RE: This could come back to haunt the Giants.  
Klaatu : 1/16/2014 10:20 pm : link
In comment 11460451 arcarsenal said:
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That's true. Seems like Matt Dodge 2.0 to me.
He will be a red zone threat  
spike : 1/16/2014 10:33 pm : link
if he puts his mind to it
I'd like to see a team  
an_idol_mind : 1/16/2014 10:39 pm : link
of all, "They'll come back and bit us" players. Barden at receiver, Dodge at punter, Ballard at tight end...
I actually think barden does great in this system  
Neverend : 1/16/2014 11:12 pm : link
people used it as an excuse early in his career but in the limited opportunities he was getting early on, he seemed like he knew what he was doing ala playing fast.

fuck, part of why he had such a big day against Carolina was because of the timing he had with eli against those soft zones the panthers were playing. you bump this guy at the line and hes completely useless as a player. He had to apologize for his performance against the jets on twitter
Why  
Toth029 : 1/17/2014 5:07 am : link
Do so many people think he's this supremely talented WR that the Giants just didn't use properly? He was given chances, sometimes did okay, mostly did not. He was not good in ST's, either. He was a project out of college because of his small school he went to. For a man his size his strength and burst to get off the line is not impressive. He's tall, and that's it. I will be surprised if he makes the Bills, much less have any impact.
he sucks. he can't be used in the red zone because  
Victor in CT : 1/17/2014 8:30 am : link
he can't get separation. If he was so good why didn't someone bring him in during the season. Plenty of teams have had injuries at WR
Inept  
Big Blue '56 : 1/17/2014 8:31 am : link
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RE: he's so bad I thought it said Bulls  
BrettNYG10 : 1/17/2014 8:33 am : link
In comment 11460455 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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thinking it was some random CFL team.


Buffalo's pretty much Canada and it's the Bills, so you were barely wrong...
kg  
SBlue46 : 1/17/2014 8:57 am : link
Used him as a slot...
He Should Have Been Green
Zone....If he stays healthy
He'll do good..
He's going to eventually join Matt Dodge and Marvin Austin on the  
jcn56 : 1/17/2014 8:59 am : link
BBI All-Pro 'We'll Regret We Cut Them' Team.
Over/under on when  
kmed : 1/17/2014 9:01 am : link
he will be cut? He's a big guy that's slow and can't separate, but also doesn't know how to use his size well enough to take advantage.
RE: Over/under on when  
Victor in CT : 1/17/2014 9:13 am : link
In comment 11460770 kmed said:
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he will be cut? He's a big guy that's slow and can't separate, but also doesn't know how to use his size well enough to take advantage.


BINGO!! what makes anyone think that the light will suddenly go on now, especially after being out of football for a year
At least he's got  
Bill in UT : 1/17/2014 9:22 am : link
one game film to show his grandkids
Barden caught 36 TDs in his last 22 Games at Cal-Poly  
Jimmy Googs : 1/17/2014 9:24 am : link
and ZERO in his four years with the Giants.

The Bills signed him because he is due to catch one sooner or later.


RE: Marrone  
Randy in CT : 1/17/2014 9:26 am : link
In comment 11460223 RetroJint said:
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Is a genuine hard ass. Barden's sorry act won't make it to camp.
What a stupid thing to say
The Bills  
Phil from WNY : 1/17/2014 9:32 am : link
seem to like to bring in guys from premium rounds who were cut by the team that drafted them. Marvin Austin must be pretty bad if the Bills haven't called him.
TE Scott Chandler (ex-Giant) caught  
aquidneck : 1/17/2014 9:35 am : link
53 balls for bills this year is 6-7 and a 2014 FA.

Maybe we can re-sign him to take Barden's place.
The ultimate  
TMS : 1/17/2014 9:36 am : link
put down is to compare him to the useless phony Austin. He does not deserve that.
I wish him well  
Sneakers O'toole : 1/17/2014 9:37 am : link
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Au contraire mon frere  
Doomster : 1/17/2014 10:26 am : link
Barden caught 36 TDs in his last 22 Games at Cal-Poly
Jimmy Googs : 9:24 am : link : reply
and ZERO in his four years with the Giants.

I think he caught one in a preseason game....
Barden and Moss  
Semipro Lineman : 1/17/2014 10:34 am : link
biggest problem is their limited special team ability. For a backup wide receiver that is almost a fatal flaw. Barden either has to earn more 1st team reps, find a team willing to create a special package for him, or improve on special teams if he wants to stay in the NFL for much longer.
RE: It's the NFL.  
ed90631 : 1/17/2014 3:15 pm : link
In comment 11460377 Exit 172 said:
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You have to read coverages. You have to beat jams at the line of scrimmage. You have to run crisp routes. You have to get position on defenders, even when you've got a height advantage on them. You have to have hands. And you need to get yards after the catch. Staying healthy is nice, too. So is contributing on specials.


Don't forget blocking. One thing that made Tiki Barber so good in his latter years was downfield blocking by the WR's especially Plax. He could push a CB or Safety 20 yds down the field.
what have  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/17/2014 3:24 pm : link
they got to lose? Maybe they have more compatible coaches for Barden's problems and maybe, like a hole in a hitter's swing, all it takes is fixing one mechanical thing and it has a domino effect to make him productive. If not, they cut him.
RE: Barden and Moss  
BigBlueinChicago : 1/17/2014 9:05 pm : link
In comment 11460947 Semipro Lineman said:
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biggest problem is their limited special team ability. For a backup wide receiver that is almost a fatal flaw. Barden either has to earn more 1st team reps, find a team willing to create a special package for him, or improve on special teams if he wants to stay in the NFL for much longer.


A similar case can be made that Jernigan fits in the same mold as well.

If the Giants sign or draft a "Nicks type replacement," where does that leave JJ? Basically in the same spot he is now. A 4th WR who is not going to get significant snaps despite the new offense and can't make an impact on special teams because he isn't very good in that area.
RE: He had one chance  
BigBlueinChicago : 1/17/2014 9:59 pm : link
In comment 11460432 Dry Lightning said:
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and played like an all-pro. That Carolina game in 2012 was outstanding. We completely wasted his talents.


Barden's "One Shining Moment"















Not his finest moment.

Barden tall receiver  
kotar1 : 1/18/2014 3:04 pm : link
The tall WR we needed...somehow he never panned out...except for that 1 game!
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