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Pope added to Cowboys staff

RodneyHamp : 1/22/2014 12:38 pm
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Mike Garafolo & #8207;@MikeGarafolo 2m

Cowboys will add former Giants TE coach Mike Pope to Jason Garrett's staff. Replaces Wes Phillips, who went to Washington.
Aw shit.  
Red Dog : 1/22/2014 12:39 pm : link
.
Son of a...  
Damon : 1/22/2014 12:40 pm : link
Bitch!
now  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/22/2014 12:42 pm : link
he'll be able to tell the Cowboys how to defend Adrien Robinson.

On a more serious note, the switch to a completely new offense/terminology came at the right time.
Honestly...  
BamaBlue : 1/22/2014 12:42 pm : link
how much more will Pope improve the way Witten kills the Giants!?
based on the Cowboys typical operating procedures  
Peter from CT : 1/22/2014 12:44 pm : link
that tells me that Pope is done as a coach and that the Giants were right to let him go
Pope should have gotten a job  
PEEJ : 1/22/2014 12:45 pm : link
with the Cardinals
Now everytime a Dallas tight end catches a ball,  
an_idol_mind : 1/22/2014 12:45 pm : link
BBI is going to have a conniption.
The only got him in order to make Monte Kiffin look young.  
ballanda : 1/22/2014 12:47 pm : link
Witten still shreds our seams either way.
RE: Now everytime a Dallas tight end catches a ball,  
Mr. Nickels : 1/22/2014 12:49 pm : link
In comment 11470254 an_idol_mind said:
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BBI is going to have a conniption.



YEP
eff him  
YAJ2112 : 1/22/2014 12:50 pm : link
traitor
Let's see  
AnishPatel : 1/22/2014 12:50 pm : link
how he develops their young TE, Escobar, I think his name is.
YAJ  
Rory : 1/22/2014 12:51 pm : link
seriously?

grow up
On the worry-meter scale  
sackpack : 1/22/2014 12:51 pm : link
this registers about a minus 3
screw that Rory  
YAJ2112 : 1/22/2014 12:53 pm : link
the man should show some loyalty. It's almost as if it's just a paycheck to him.
Or maybe  
Doomster : 1/22/2014 12:54 pm : link
Whitten gets worse?

I always felt Pope got too much credit for what the TE's did.....Shockey was Shockey.....have to give him credit for Boss/Ballard.....they did produce, while coming out of nowhere.....but compared to other TE's out there, how would you rate them? While he took average guys and made them average TE's, isn't that what a coach should do? As for Bennett, he was already what he was.....now if you saw dramatic improvement from the first 4 games compared to the last 4 games, than you could say Pope had a real affect on him....I didn't see it.....

As for Myers, all we kept hearing from Pope was how his blocking had improved.....really?.....I saw a guy miss blocks at the end of the season like he did at the beginning....Robinson and Donnell? If only they wouldn't trip over their own feet and stay inbounds.....that has nothing to do with coaching....or does it?

I think the legend of Pope is greatly exaggerated....
wish pope the best  
micky : 1/22/2014 12:56 pm : link
But ublnforyunately not now on board with cowboys.. like said, good now the change in offensive pholosophy and terminology.
Dallas now  
Pete in MD : 1/22/2014 12:57 pm : link
has a defensive coordinator, TE coach, and head personnel man that are in there 70s. Who says this is a young man's league?
Doomster, it wasn't that long ago  
barens : 1/22/2014 12:57 pm : link
that he worked wonders with Jakes Ballard and Martellous Bennett. As the rule goes, if your going to blame him for the lack of production from Myers and Robinson, he certainly gets props for his work with the other tight ends that have been here.
ha..damn phone  
micky : 1/22/2014 12:57 pm : link
Unfortunately
Good move for the Cowboys as Pope is a great coach  
BigBlueBuff : 1/22/2014 1:05 pm : link
and teacher, but at the end of the day the Giants completely changed their offensive staff and we have to continue to look forward and not backwards.

Best wishes to Coach Pope as a man, regardless of his colors.
DOOMED!  
Chef : 1/22/2014 1:10 pm : link
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Geez this new Pope Francis  
MartyGlickman : 1/22/2014 1:15 pm : link
is shaking the foundation of the Catholic Church with his liberal proclamations, and now he's dabbling as a Tight End coach! A little out of his area of expertise I would think!

And very self-indulgent!
Big Deal.  
Klaatu : 1/22/2014 1:18 pm : link
As I wrote in the other Pope thread, may he do for the Cowboys TEs what he did for Darcy Johnson and Michael Matthews.
Bennett  
mattlawson : 1/22/2014 1:23 pm : link
must have impressed them, because they sure as hell didnt use him
Escobar and Hanna both have skills.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/22/2014 1:40 pm : link
No shortage of targets for Romo. That team's problems lie elsewhere.

Pope probably is an excellent coach, considering the chorus of praise for him over the years. He seems to have done much of his best work for the Giants early in his first stint, with Mowatt and Bavaro (although Jamie Williams and Malcolm Scott did nothing here). Later, Pope made a useful player out of Howard Cross, who might have been a more complete TE if Pope had stuck around.

In his second tour, Pope got unexpected mileage from Boss and Ballard, and he helped set up Martellus Bennett for a big payday. Can't give him much credit [i]or[/] blame for Shockey, a huge natural talent who seems to have been largely uncoachable. Dan Campbell was a less-durable version of Cross, who was simply overdrafted. Visanthe Shiancoe is a bit of a mark against Pope, considering the way he thrived in Minnesota.
This could be trouble  
JoefromPa : 1/22/2014 1:41 pm : link
Dallas' tight ends might become a problem for the Giants defense now....
I wonder if he will denounce  
derpaderp : 1/22/2014 1:45 pm : link
Jerry Jones' exorbitant wealth and convince him to give it all away.
The Pope too????  
NYDCBlue : 1/22/2014 1:45 pm : link
Doooomed. Jerry somehow got the Pontiff on staff? What's his job? Bless the Gatorade before each scrimmage/game?
eric  
SBlue46 : 1/22/2014 1:55 pm : link
Still shocked why Ingram and pope get canned
And ryan and Quinn and Gilbride jr
Get saved. Now will the replacements
Be as good? It will be a joke....
And why would mara try to extend
Tc. Then he would have to keep him
A few more years since he won't
Get fired if he has to pay contract.
I think mara is going to get burned.
This coaching staff needs a lot if he
Thinks we will make it to playoffs..
eric  
SBlue46 : 1/22/2014 1:56 pm : link
Still shocked why Ingram and pope get canned
And ryan and Quinn and Gilbride jr
Get saved.Will the replacements
Be as good? It will be a joke....
And why would mara try to extend
Tc. Then he would have to keep him
A few more years since he won't
Get fired if he has to pay contract.
I think mara is going to get burned.
This coaching staff needs a lot if he
Thinks we will make it to playoffs..
RE: now  
MookGiants : 1/22/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11470246 Eric from BBI said:
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he'll be able to tell the Cowboys how to defend Adrien Robinson.

On a more serious note, the switch to a completely new offense/terminology came at the right time.


LOL.

Here's the plan guys. Win the toss, choose to receive. Ball gets kicked off, Robinson gets hurt, got it? Good.
Witten  
Rflairr : 1/22/2014 2:06 pm : link
already kicks our ass. So.....
If Witten starts to running routes  
Jimmy Googs : 1/22/2014 2:07 pm : link
out of the back of the endzone, then we will all know it was Pope's fault.
RE: screw that Rory  
fbdad : 1/22/2014 2:07 pm : link
In comment 11470273 YAJ2112 said:
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the man should show some loyalty. It's almost as if it's just a paycheck to him.


Is this a serious thought? He should show some loyalty to the team that just fired him?

This must be a joke.
Jerry Jones  
spike : 1/22/2014 2:31 pm : link
wants to look young next to these old men.
fbdad  
River Mike : 1/22/2014 2:31 pm : link
is your sarcasm antenna fully deployed yet?
The Cowboys could use some  
Gman11 : 1/22/2014 4:06 pm : link
religion.

Oh, not that Pope? Sorry.
Yaj  
Rory : 1/22/2014 4:41 pm : link
loyalty to who? Fans that will turn on you in a instant during a losing season.

OR.... your family you need to support.

They just dont make Giants fans like they used to anymore.

and you're 11
Yaj  
Rory : 1/22/2014 4:42 pm : link
loyalty to who? Fans that will turn on you in a instant during a losing season.

OR.... your family you need to support.

They just dont make Giants fans like they used to anymore.

and you're 11
et tu  
Some Fan : 1/22/2014 4:46 pm : link
Pope
Damn! He'll tip off the Cowboys to all our trick plays  
Marty in Albany : 1/22/2014 5:11 pm : link
!!!
Love Pope ... great coach ... I love the Giants but I hope  
baadbill : 1/22/2014 5:14 pm : link
Pope makes them regret firing him ... I'm one Giants' fan who will be rooting for his ongoing success
Championship!!!  
montanagiant : 1/22/2014 5:25 pm : link
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RE: Now everytime a Dallas tight end catches a ball,  
TheBigBlueOne : 1/22/2014 5:30 pm : link
In comment 11470254 an_idol_mind said:
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BBI is going to have a conniption.

Metamucil could help.
Thanks BBI. I haven't heard the word conniption in 40 years  
Marty in Albany : 1/22/2014 5:55 pm : link
and this is the first time I've ever seen it in print. I had assumed (incorrectly of course) that people had stopped having conniptions.
And to think,  
Torn Tendon : 1/22/2014 6:07 pm : link
I wanted to give the BBI Giant of the Year Award to him last year.
What did Pope do here, that he deserved the ax ?  
Manny in CA : 1/23/2014 12:33 am : link
Please answer me. (Maybe it was Myers stinking it up, will a new guy turn him into a bone crushing blocking machine, or keep him from tripping over his own feet, on the way to a TD ?)

If it's true that they can do better, well then fine, screw the Cowboys. Have the Giants hired a replacement ? If not who are the candidates ?

Eventually, whoever it is, he'd better be a lot better. Else, was it change for the sake of change ? - that's messed up.


Nobody here knows why they fired any of the staff they did  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/23/2014 12:38 am : link
Why would anyone be able to answer that question? We're not present for anything that goes on in the building to know what the relationship is.

They fired Waufle with no explanation. We come to find out he'd been constantly complaining about being underpaid and wanting more money.
That's like  
Arcanum : 1/23/2014 12:45 am : link
Dating my boy's ex girlfriend. Regardless of how the break up was, I couldn't do it. I could never go to the cowboys, after leaving the Giants.
whats the problen?  
blakjedi : 1/23/2014 1:31 am : link
PARCELLS did it... This is work for them. Not fandom. If Eli went to the cowboys I'd be hurt but its just work for them.
RE: What did Pope do here, that he deserved the ax ?  
TheBigBlueOne : 1/23/2014 2:04 am : link
In comment 11471385 Manny in CA said:
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Please answer me. (Maybe it was Myers stinking it up, will a new guy turn him into a bone crushing blocking machine, or keep him from tripping over his own feet, on the way to a TD ?)

If it's true that they can do better, well then fine, screw the Cowboys. Have the Giants hired a replacement ? If not who are the candidates ?

Eventually, whoever it is, he'd better be a lot better. Else, was it change for the sake of change ? - that's messed up.


It could simply be a matter of the new OC wanting the TE's to play in a certain way and he's bringing in his own guy to teach them. I don't know. It's scary losing one of our better coaches, especially to the Cowboys. But that's football. Things change and we can only guess why.
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