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NFT: Very funny read about pornography

KooKoo4Giants : 1/28/2014 5:31 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/27/porn-influence-real-sex-education-online-fantasies

Ignorant piece written by an ignorant woman.

Newsflash: Men don't ask for anal because of porn. People have been doing that long before the porn industry became a billion dollar empire
"seagulling"  
CRinCA : 1/28/2014 5:35 pm : link
Learn something new every day.
Seagulling,I bet that will go over big with a girlfriend  
gtt350 : 1/28/2014 5:47 pm : link
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seriously, people's sex lives are warped these days  
mfsd : 1/28/2014 5:59 pm : link
must make some long for the days of clean, healthy, puritanical lovemaking

As was custom before the age of pornography, like in Ancient Greece or the like...
So a bunch of guys stand in a hallway  
Beez : 1/28/2014 5:59 pm : link
together, waiting for "that moment?"

Uh.
worse yet  
Mike from Ohio : 1/28/2014 6:03 pm : link
they are all in the hallway together preparing for that moment. Together.

Isn't that special?
i wouldn't want to be the guy in the bed and get in a crossfire  
gtt350 : 1/28/2014 6:05 pm : link
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RE: seriously, people's sex lives are warped these days  
robbieballs2003 : 1/28/2014 6:05 pm : link
In comment 11480202 mfsd said:
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must make some long for the days of clean, healthy, puritanical lovemaking

As was custom before the age of pornography, like in Ancient Greece or the like...


Like in ancient Greece when it was accepted to have a child as a sexual partner?
robbieballs  
mfsd : 1/28/2014 6:08 pm : link
that was the point of my joke
haha  
robbieballs2003 : 1/28/2014 6:09 pm : link
Well that flew right over my head.
RE: RE: seriously, people's sex lives are warped these days  
BrettNYG10 : 1/28/2014 6:10 pm : link
In comment 11480211 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 11480202 mfsd said:


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must make some long for the days of clean, healthy, puritanical lovemaking

As was custom before the age of pornography, like in Ancient Greece or the like...



Like in ancient Greece when it was accepted to have a child as a sexual partner?


I was born too late!

-BBurns
Nothing about threesomes in the article.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 1/28/2014 6:11 pm : link
I guess that still can be part of a healthy relationship.
that women should watch some japanese porn and she'll lose her  
gtt350 : 1/28/2014 6:18 pm : link
mind.
RE: that women should watch some japanese porn and she'll lose her  
mfsd : 1/28/2014 6:20 pm : link
In comment 11480226 gtt350 said:
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mind.


Or German. Those are some sick fucks over there
I actually think it is a very good article. Nothing funny about it.  
Cam in MO : 1/28/2014 6:30 pm : link
Especially liked parts at the end:

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We need sex education because women are telling me they're fed up of being told they're a "bitch" or a "dirty little whore" or a "slut" in bed. That they need to be "violated" or "ruined". We need sex education because I have lost count of the number of times that young women have told me that their boyfriend or sex partner has placed his hands around their neck and tried to choke them during sex.

Of course, you may be a woman, and you may enjoy all of these things and more. Human sexuality is varied and fluid and experimentation is to be encouraged.



And the closing especially:

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Porn in and of itself is not the problem; after all, it's just people, having sex, on a screen, sometimes not especially convincingly. No, porn is not the problem: it's the complete and utter absence of any other narrative that is, and the disappointing failure of our government to provide one.



Choking, bondage, spanking, flogging, dom/sub stuff and the like isn't everyone's cup of tea. Porn does pretty much make it seem like all wimmin are into it.

They aren't.

And it's not a good idea to either give it a try without discussing it first, or to give it a try if your partner doesn't consent. In fact if it's the latter it is criminal and abhorrent.

Cam..  
Sean in PA : 1/28/2014 6:38 pm : link
I agree fully. I thought the author made some very good points.
Cam...  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 1/28/2014 6:44 pm : link
I think anyone who does that stuff without getting consent has issues that go beyond pornography. It just seems like something to blame idiotic behavior on as opposed to the idiots themselves.
Shockey-  
Cam in MO : 1/28/2014 6:51 pm : link
As an adult, sure.

As an 'uneducated' kid- it's a bit more in a gray area IMO. I can't really disagree with your point, though.

However, I do wonder how much the idea that those things- even with consent- in and of themselves are "weird" or "bad" or only enjoyed by those with "problems" influences your opinion.





wait what?  
newmike2 : 1/28/2014 6:58 pm : link
the point of the article is that the government should be informing people how to express themselves sexually and that porn is not normal.

Yeah, porn does that. And after watching Superman  
jcn56 : 1/28/2014 7:01 pm : link
I was *convinced* that any dork with rimmed glasses could jump off a building and fly.

C'mon. Porn's intended for adults, at a bare minimum it's usually consumed by people who are at least teenagers, who understand the difference between fantasy (what you see on film, TV/movies) and reality.

And anyone who hasn't come across a woman who was a total freak before she met you has not gotten around enough. Pretty sure they didn't pick it up at porn school either.
You don't think...  
Chris in Philly : 1/28/2014 7:04 pm : link
the avalanche of porn available to teens and preteens has an effect on the way they view sex? And how they shape their sex lives? Of course it does...
How they view it? Absolutely  
jcn56 : 1/28/2014 7:07 pm : link
Do they think it's the norm? Do they think that most women go around serially banging every dude in sight and begging for anal? I tend to give kids, even teenagers, a little more credit than that.

And before we had the internet and porn, where did we find out about sex? From word of mouth from other teenagers, and probably developed a similar warped opinion of what women wanted and did.

I don't think the situation is as dire as it's made out in the article. I do think sex education would help, but it would have helped before internet porn just as much as it would now.
porn school?  
Dylan fan : 1/28/2014 7:09 pm : link
Who says a young man ain't got nothin' in the world these days? (pun intended)
Young Man Blues - ( New Window )
A related read...  
Chris in Philly : 1/28/2014 7:24 pm : link
And perhaps an eye opener.
Link - ( New Window )
I agree somewhat  
Pete in MD : 1/28/2014 7:25 pm : link
that porn can shift the way people have sex but to blame this fully on the men is ridiculous. There does seem to be a sex "formula" that gets followed in most porn, professional and homemade, and in many bedrooms I'm sure but where did it originate?

That previous poster was right. Humans have been around for a long time and are obsessed with getting off. There's not a way to do it (with or without a partner) that your great-great-great grandparents didn't know of unless it involved technology not yet invented. If you don't believe me, look at the frescos in Pompeii or cave paintings.

Seagulling sounds like a urban myth. There are so many logistical problems with that scenario that I doubt it was ever successfully attempted.
Women? What about men!  
Overseer : 1/28/2014 8:13 pm : link
Years of watching Peter North drench his co-stars has all the chicks thinking we can unleash one like a fire hose onto their face night after night.

We are not machines!
Keep in mind this isn't about the US.  
Cam in MO : 1/28/2014 8:26 pm : link
This article is written about sex education in the UK.

Not sure how different their sex education is, just figured I'd point that out.


Women hate porn  
djm : 1/28/2014 8:48 pm : link
Well I hate rom coms which are far more damaging.
RE: Women hate porn  
Cam in MO : 1/28/2014 8:56 pm : link
In comment 11480448 djm said:
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Well I hate rom coms which are far more damaging.


Depends on the woman.


I must admit I didn't really think about the difference between how  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 1/28/2014 9:01 pm : link
easy it is for teens to access porn now versus my teenage years in the mid-90s. Some of us had tapes, but the rest of us watched Skinemax.
Seagulling....LMAO  
lono801 : 1/28/2014 10:10 pm : link
I wonder if shes ever heard of The Rusty Trombone...Im sure she would love that one...
i was hardly born in the 80s  
Neverend : 1/28/2014 11:05 pm : link
but from what I understand teen pregnancy was a problem then. I might just be assuming here but I was watching the 1990 presidential debate and it came up as a pretty big issue.

That was before the youtube-porn era that's been very popular for like the last 5 or 6 years. Its a pretty big deal. The youtube porn sites that is. Its literally driving the porn industry out of business, its ridiculous. Its like downloading music. Who the fuck is going to pay (no matter how cheap) for a single or even an album when its so damn easy to get for free? A curious 8 year old kid could easily get into that material if he finds it by accident. Its kind of disturbing, but reality.

I grew up as a teenager in the 00s and video browsing wasn't as big then as it is now. The only thing I did was sneak up late at night (even as a kid) to watch cinemax and look at the softcore porn. There were no youtube porn sites. It was just 'preview' videos of sites you had to pay for. Going thru puberty I did the same as everyone else my age, look at those very sexy video vixen models. To be honest I barely understood sex I would watch, all I cared about was big breasts and nice round asses.

I don't know if seeing porn at a young age affected me all that much. I just never got into all those sick genres someone else mentioned, or I guess I couldn't find it. I just didn't have a great understanding, I didn't even know what anal specifically really was until I was like 17. Stuff just blended in. I don't think porn makes very young teenagers have sex, that stuff just naturally comes with puberty. To get into weird strange sexual fetishes? I suppose. But I think it has just as much to do with the individual. I remember watching a 90s jerry springer episode of a guy paying a woman so he can be her 'sex slave'. Shit like that can't be just porn by itself. Not that porn helps, but theres more

I will say this though. Looking at models really warped my expectations regarding women's bodies. Its easy to get disappointed once you face reality. Stretchmarks, small nonsurgically repaired breasts, skin discolorations, birth marks... Yuck. I definitely regret watching it though because it really builds up bad expectations. But I never would force any kind of fantasies on someone. Love women too much for that
Seagulling  
Rob in NYC : 1/28/2014 11:12 pm : link
Seems to require a degree of timing, coordination, proximity and potential for collateral damage that I am not comfortable with.

Call me old fashioned.
Neverend  
Boy Cord : 1/28/2014 11:35 pm : link
Uh, yeah. Thanks for sharing.

I think guys tend to forget  
AnyoneButPhilly : 1/29/2014 12:01 am : link
That the women in these videos are professionals. Porn sex and real sex with a real person are very dissimilar. It's got to be hard for women when every guy is trying to act out a scene from some porn video he saw online. It's like when women want men to do this thoughtful romantic stuff they saw in some romantic comedy. It's not real life and it's hard to put those expectations on anyone
AnyoneButPhilly has the seeds of a solution there.  
manh george : 1/29/2014 1:09 am : link
Just fuse the girlie flick with the on-line porn.

Cocktails on the veranda>lovely meal with flowers and champagne>long romantic walk on the beach>anal (seagulling optional)
RE: haha  
lvkid7 : 1/29/2014 6:02 am : link
In comment 11480215 robbieballs2003 said:
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Well that flew right over my head.


....like a flock of seagulls?
hell the baby boomers read National Geographic  
gtt350 : 1/29/2014 6:11 am : link
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Who the fuck  
Modus Operandi : 1/29/2014 6:24 am : link
Asks for anal on the first date?
Re: Modus  
AnyoneButPhilly : 1/29/2014 6:30 am : link
Gay guys
Um....what?  
Cam in MO : 1/29/2014 7:48 am : link
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I just never got into all those sick genres someone else mentioned



What are these "sick genres" you're talking about?





I got to think the internet has an effect on teens  
Headhunter : 1/29/2014 8:17 am : link
I mean back in the day getting a BJ in junior high school was pretty unusual and rare. Now Oral sex in junior high is no big deal
Dude, HH.  
Cam in MO : 1/29/2014 8:18 am : link
Please stay away from the Middle schools. You're gonna end up on a list.



I saw that come from a mile away  
Headhunter : 1/29/2014 8:21 am : link
Anywho it is different it today and I'm not saying it's a good thing or bad thing , just different
RE: Who the fuck  
ed90631 : 1/29/2014 4:18 pm : link
In comment 11480742 Modus Operandi said:
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Asks for anal on the first date?


According to what I read, Roman Polanski.
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