Saw these from a few tweets:
Zack Martin, 6'4", 308 lbs, 32 7/8 arms (longer than Pugh)
Taylor Lewan, 6'7 1/8", 309 lbs (kinda light, imo), 33 7/8" arms
Greg Robinson, 6'5", 332 35" arms
Longest arms, Luke Lucas K-State, 36 3/4"! Project though. Day 3 pick
Still looking for a site that has everyone and will post asap.
all the OL's and TE's - ( New Window )
Looks like I'll be on google doc's all night tonight! Thanks Phil. Interestingly, the heights are all rounded (up?) but the arms are to the fraction. Also, Colt Lyerla weighs 2,242 lbs.
Ju'Wuan James, 35-inch arms. That is.
Also seems like Wesley is tacking on more weight. He's still under 300 but he's getting there.
I was really hoping Ebron would be somewhere in the high 250's. There were rumors that he put on a lot of weight but I guess that wasn't the case
6'6, 314, 35 3/8, 9 7/8
Cyril Richardson is a wild card I'm trying to figure out. He got embarrassed at the Senior Bowl.
2nd round?
Measured in at 6'6/311/34.5. Started for 3 years straight at G but has also played C and T. High character guy who is going to do well on the wonderlic and will also likely go over 30 reps on the bench press.
He's basically drafting a better version of David Diehl all over again.
Start a thread stating that the link will keep track of all the important combine info and ask for it to be stickied for the duration of the combine. I'm sure Eric or a mod will do that. Title it correctly.
2nd round?
I don't think the 2nd round is too rich for him to be honest. He's raw and new to the position, but he still has a high floor. He's a nasty blocker that finishes and has really good hands. I can't see him being worse than a solid two way TE, but he has the potential to be one of the top TEs in the game.
because I'm prepared to draft a TE (Amaro if he runs well or Ebron otherwise) at 12. People underestimate that need and the criticality of TE to the offense - when there isn't a great O-line, a great running game or even a lot of other options on the team.
I'd go CB at 12 and TE in the 2nd, add OL in FA to fill immediate holes, and 3rd round either G/C or DE.
I think if we're in a position where the top TE is still available for us at #12, Niklas will most certainly be there for us in the 2nd. In such a deep draft, I don't think 4 TE's will be taken between our first and second round pick. I just have my fingers crossed that Austin Seferian-Jenkins will be rated higher than Niklas when all is said and done. That will bode well for us.
Those are also excellent numbers for James. One of him, Moses, or A. Richardson should be available at #43. The kid from Nevada would also be a good option in the third.
I know you're not necessarily saying we should go for Martin at 12 (I don't know how you feel on the situation, maybe you are), but it's tough for me to believe in Martin at 12. I liked what I saw from him too, certainly a better prospect than Pugh in my eyes. Its just that I'd prefer the prospect we take at #12 in a deep draft to have all the measurables to be able to succeed at the next level.
The flip side is that if Martin fails at OT, he certainly has the base and body type to be an OG. I never felt that way about Pugh, I thought he lacked the base to be able to be a capable OG so I'm happy Pugh has found a home at OT. But Martin would have to be one hell of an OG to take at #12.
At TE, I'm surprised by Amaro's size. Ebron helped himself by coming in at 250. He didn't look 250 in college. And obviously, Niklas looks like he's going to entice someone to draft him early based on potential.
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I'm not an Ealy fan either, but I'm a big fan on Nix. The injury concerns are valid, but if LinJo walks, I think he's a top candidate. I know it's a rather lazy comparison to compare Nix to Wilfork (330+ black DTs that actually look alike), but I really do see a lot of Wilfork in his game.
I'd prefer for us to address the CB or WR position just because it makes sense from a financial standpoint. You can address OL in FA at a fair price, not so much with premium positions.
Agreed, I was just speaking about not needing to address OL in the first round. We can get a good OL prospect in the 2nd-4th round.
Measured in at 6'6/311/34.5. Started for 3 years straight at G but has also played C and T. High character guy who is going to do well on the wonderlic and will also likely go over 30 reps on the bench press.
He's basically drafting a better version of David Diehl all over again.
I'd respectfully disagree with this because I wouldn't touch him until the fifth round. He kicked outside to RT at times last year, but he'd be a major liability at that spot in the pros. He'd compare to Diehl's last 2-3 years here in pass pro as a RT.
Linder will certainly put up a big number in the bench press, though. He posted 36 reps of 225 last January.
I don't mind taking a playmaker at 12, but love the idea of moving down a bit and ending up with 3 picks in the first two rounds, using 2 on OL and 1 on a playmaker.
My assumption is that we trim a lot of the fat (cut Snee and Baas), sign a G or a C to a nice contract, draft OL within the first 3 rounds, and have a guy we developed such as Mosley be part of our starting OL.
Randy, I'd take one FA stud (e.g., Mack), one JAG FA OL, and two relatively high draft picks and feel really good about that. BTW, I haven't given up on Mosley at OG. He had great measurables at the Combine...3-cone, shuttle, etc.
Bridgewater 6'2 1/8", 214 lbs.
Bridgewater 6'2 1/8", 214 lbs.
Woah, didn't expect Bridgewater to weigh 214. Great news for us. Manziel coming up under 6 feet doesn't bode well for him, hopefully he impresses this weekend.
I think Linder has a chance to be a much better interior lineman than Diehl was (more of a true guard) plus the versatility to possibly play center - which he played in HS and a little bit his first few years at Miami.
I guess 3rd round may be early, but 4th or 5th seems very reasonable for a guy with that many starts (also assuming he has a good combine as we both seem to think he will).
FSU's Kelvin Benjamin came in at 6'5", 240 pounds and he claims he has just 4% body fat.
Texas A&M's Mike Evans - 6'4 3/4", 231 pounds
USC's Marqise Lee - 5'11 3/4", 192 pounds
LSU's Odell Beckham - 5'11 1/4", 198 pounds
LSU's Jarvis Landry - 5'11 1/2", 204 pounds
Penn State's Allen Robinson - 6'2 5/8", 220 pounds
Clemson's Martavis Bryant - 6'3 1/2", 211 pounds
South Carolina's Bruce Ellington - 5/9 3'8", 197 pounds
Here are some comments on TE from a buddy of mine in an email to me, I've shared his stuff before (in another thread to), but this thread seems good for this discussion too.
Basically wherever you want to draft him, if you think he fits well and you don't love someone more, just go ahead and do it. There shouldn't be any limitations from the standpoint of thinking about some theoretical ceiling about where Ebron should go.
As for Jace Amaro I think the cap on his stock is somewhere in the 1st round. I still haven't quite solidified in my mind whether he's another Tyler Eifert but my gut says not quite, yet a heck of a prospect all the same.
Troy Niklas was severely under-used in the passing game and he's a former defensive lineman so on that front I suppose you can call him undersized. But the guy is a full 6'6" and 270 lbs with long arms and big hands and he carries all that weight VERY easily, moves fluidly with good hips and arm movement, catches the football outside of his frame, jumps well, and he's VERY physical. He's the most physical tight end in the draft and that doesn't just mean blocking. He's got some of the best YAC numbers among the tight ends (it might be THE best, have to check) because of how physical he is.
He's just...a BEAST.
People won't draft him in the 1st round because they will be convinced about the concept of the new age tight end, and Niklas will probably run around the low or mid 4.7's. They'll have a point about the new age of the tight end. But two things about that. With his length and fluid movement, and the way he catches the football outside his frame, there's undiscovered potential lining him up wide and in the slot.
Second, I can't help but watch all of the blocking plays he made in the run game at Notre Dame that practically NONE of the other tight ends made, and that hardly any tight ends in the NFL make, and then I look at how 3 of the final 4 teams in the NFL this year were HARD CORE POWER RUNNING teams...and I think you know what, y'all go ahead and start talking philosophics about prototypes and what's valuable and what's not valuable...I'm going to go win some football games.
Perhaps that's just stubbornness but the NFL is cyclical and everything is about what weapons you have the opportunity to add to your arsenal. A guy like Niklas will not only be a great weapon in the passing game stalking the back of the end zone (click the link below), he'll help you get your ground game going in a big way like Gronk does in NE.
PLAY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A62AKY8Yjpc&feature=player_detailpage#t=541
(If the link doesn't bring you straight away to the right spot in the video just scroll over to 9:01 into the video).
I almost hope he's lying...that's just beyond unnecessary. Kid has hit the genetic lottery.
A few RBs are coming in now:
Carlos Hyde 5'11 7/8", 230 lbs
Jeremy Hill 6'0 5/8", 233 lbs
Kadeem Carey 5'9 3/8", 207
Tre Mason 5'8 1/2", 207
Terrance West 5'9 1/4", 225
Andre Williams 5'11 3/8", 230
Bishop Sankey 5'9 1/2", 209
De'Anthony Thomas 5'8 5/8", 174