In comment 11521377
Bill in UT said:
| The question is just who is more important to the team
Bill I see that you think that is whatb the question is, but is it?Is that the question to the team? I think in the end the approach the must take is that tyhey simply CANNOT fix all their problems through draft anf FA. Many answers are going to HAVE to come form what's already on the roster. Finances dictate that.In the end I think they want both Joseph and Beason. I think they will make offers to both, probably already did to beason, who didn't bite. In the end they will see what their free agents draw as ofefrs from other teams, and if they feel they can match it( by that I mean can match it while getting value for what they spend on said player) then they will make a final counter offer. they FA in question, be it beason or Joseph, will either take the offer or not. I think this year, much more so than in past years, they will look to get value, spend wisely, and not swing for the fences. I think even on the players they DO spend big bucks on, they will do it because it represents fair market value, not desperation.
The fact they will not extend manning is telling. It says they are waiting to see if he can picj up his game or if he is indeed on the inevitable downside of his casreer. they are not hamstringing themselves for the future.
As far as TC goes the one year extension means nothing , nothing at all.If they bomb, they may replace him, if he does well, and still wants to coach, they may let him, with another one year extension.mayeb they season Mcadoo for a coupel of years. Maybe eli takes a shit, they let his conbtract run out,m then in 2 years, not one, TC retires and they hire a new head coach. The fact is I do not believe the Giants saw anyone out there as an improvement over TC. Next offseason may be different. Or not.I think they would like to leave the team in a position in a year or two to be able to hire a new long term coach, with out having all their cap money tied up, and an option for said new coach to go with a new QB if the current one doesnt improve.The giants looking to create this option doesnt mean TC is done, , like I said if he and manning pick it up then maybe they stick around.
I'd sday the gianst don't like change just for the sake of it, but I am hesitant to do so after listening to TC say, pointedly, that performance had nothing to do with Ope and ingram getting canned.Maybe they wanted change, maybe they didn't see eye to eye with what TC wants to do moving forward with Mcadoo.,maybe it wasn't performance as much as a sense of stagnation and a need for change and growth.
TC is very stubborn, but also very astute, and has shown the ability to adapt, albeit slowly, when his , or the teams survival depends on it.I see a pattern with him, he tries to force his way on the team, and when the collectively rebel, and present sound reasoning for said rebellion, he relents and changes his approach.This, more than anythign else is why he endures, that and his fundamentally sound regimen for preparation.He depends on that regimen, and doesn't change it lightly, but will change it once he sees it bears little or no fruit. Loyalty or not, he does shed ineffective coaches and has done so over the years. reluctantly, but still he does it.I think he knows their needs to be change. I think he also knows his QB is fundamentally a gunslinger who makes his money of the long ball. I expect them to pay greater attention to developing an effective short yardage game, moreso than in the past, but the home run strikes will still be deep balls down the field, because that's what they have at QB.I don't care what anyone says, I have never thought Eli is among the leagues best in a short yardage attack.lots osf short passes he flubs other W+QBs make. I expect that will get cleaned up, along with more passes to the RBs and TEs next year, and wouldnt suprise me to see him hit the FBs as well.I think we will go back to seeing manning hit 8-9 receivers a game like he did in the middle of his carreer. those numbers have dropped the last 2 years. as teasm have to cover more possible outlets it will open the long ball for Manning, I think that's what Mcadoo will do for us, Gilbride was committed to swinging for the fences. I think MCAdoo will look to take what is given, then expoloit when it is timely, which is what Manning is good at, once he gets into a game and starts detecting defensive tendencies.
The running game will be incorporated to the extent it is succesful.If it works they will lean on it, if it doesn't, McAdoo will find a way to nickel and dime the ball forward with a short passing game that accomplishes the same basic goal of keeping the chains moving while they try and develop the opportunities for the deep strikes. I thin
k that's why they hired him, 1)to be adaptive to the available means,and make best use of them and 2)to keep the chains moving.They expect him to be inventive in doing so. I thijk he is a good hire, and a few season s under TC, if he works out, then who knows where he goes from there.
Back to beason and Joseph, they will make fair market offers, and they will either take them or they won't. If they don't then the Giants will move on from there, but I don't sense the loss of any single player is going to cause them to panic.
This year, more than any other, is where we truly find out just how good a GM Reese really is.he has the opportunity to wreck the franchise, or right the ship.Obviously I'm rooting for him, But I have my reservations. Very interesting to see what we do this year.
P.S. don't be suprised to see Baas or Snee Back, if nothing more than depth.I say draft a LT, put Beatty at LG, Pugh stays at right, Boothe cordle at baas fight it out for center, and the pick up a FA for right guard, snee as backup at RG.they pick up a second FA as a backup, and draft another guy in later round, and keep brewer as the 10th man. I don't see them going with more than 4 new faces.
Snee thinks he can play.If he's right they'll let him come to camp.Beatty we are married to for now, and somewhere during the year he will work his way back into the lineup somwhere.They wont cut Basas tuill after june 1st, and by that time they will have seen what he looks like in OTAs. If he looks good he may stay with restructure . if not he goes after june 1st, but either way, they are going to get a look at him first and see where he is at.same thing goes for Snee I think, unless he is bullshitting about his recovery.
Bottom line is I think decisaions on Snee, Baas and Beatyy come later in the spring rather than earlier, and it's too early to tell. They may all be gone. They may all stay, if they can play.I thijmk the Giants are going to play this very smart and not cut off their noses to spite their face.
It's one thing to cut ties with a guy like Nicks who dogged it. It's another thing for guys who played hard till they got limited by injuries. Tye will assess where they are medically before making final decisions, it's just the smart thing to do.