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"The Giants are concentrating their efforts on a deal with soon-to-be free-agent linebacker Jon Beason, two people with knowledge of the situation told NJ.com. In the meantime, the remainder of their 21 unrestricted free agents have been put on the backburner. The Giants have yet to make an official offer to veteran defensive end Justin Tuck and, while still hopeful something can be worked out, are under the impression that defensive tackle Linval Joseph will be too costly to keep. Wide receiver Hakeem Nicks' chances of returning remain "close to zero." |
Bob
So focus goes to Beason by default.
this feels like a rebuilding period. I don't like it, not one bit.
Beason is NOT replaceable imo. Why? look how long it took to get a player of his caliber since a young Pierce. And what about before Pierce? Barrow?
Meanwhile we've been able to secure nice DT talent through the years and we will continue to do so, imo..
What do you call Cullen Jenkins?
BBC: the facts are, we have not been able to for one reason or another. None of our standouts, Barrow, Pierce and now Beason were drafted by us, so it's safe to say that we haven't drafted a stud LB since Armstead, he of the 8th round, no less..
So onviously I'm addressing OUR dilemma in that area and the facts FOR US, are that good DTs have been easier to come by than LBs..Far easier
Well its not done so we'll see how that goes. Also, that only fixes some of the problem as there is still going to be wasted dollars as part of the cap and, most importantly, both guys aren't that good anymore.
Lets say your limit is 6mil per year which mine would be.. The Raiders offer 7 per... Do you now pay him 7 now... what if they go 7.5 or 8 per... are you still keeping him at all costs because you drafted him?
He is worth, what he is worth, and if he gets over paid the value you think he is you have to let him go.
BBC: the facts are, we have not been able to for one reason or another. None of our standouts, Barrow, Pierce and now Beason were drafted by us, so it's safe to say that we haven't drafted a stud LB since Armstead, he of the 8th round, no less..
So onviously I'm addressing OUR dilemma in that area and the facts FOR US, are that good DTs have been easier to come by than LBs..Far easier
And there is no reason why we couldn't re-sign Patterson who did a nice job last year
We absolutely agree
This is what we drafted Hankins for.
Year 1 was his "red shirt" year and we did the exact same thing with Joseph and that worked out pretty well
This team has a ton of needs with about 19 mil in cap room....with a large portion of that going towards re-building the o line
[quote] the NYG keeps drafting good DT's only to let them walk after their rookie contract..That's a recurring a problem.. [/quote
we drafted LinJO to be that big run stuffing DT. He has produced and has been solid for us. I'd like to re-sign him, and see what a duo of Hankins and LinJo can do.
LinJo is young enough that we can give him 1 big contract and we can even front load it to make it easier as he gets older.
LJ is replaceable but really only for one year b/c Jenkins and Patterson have a limited shelf-life. And that leaves only Hankins probably as the only decent DT going into 2015.
I don't say break the bank for LJ, but I think going above $5M/year does make sense....relunctantly no higher than $6.5ish or so.
I think it's this. But I also think he'll find a very friendly FA market. There will be lots of teams vying for his services. I also agree with Googs that the real impact of losing Joseph could be felt in 2015. One or both of Patterson and Jenkins won't be with the team after next season. So if Joseph goes, using a second day pick on a DT becomes a top priority, even on a team with a huge number of holes. If you can't stop the run you can't win.
I really do hope LJ stays, but if those news stories last week estimating $8-$9 million/year for his services are correct, then we got to let him walk and deal with who we got left.
Again, my biggest criticism is the Giants should be matching cap dollars to true core players, but they got out of formula.
He says he wants to stay and the NYG need him ... Jerry get it done to satisfy both parties
This makes Joseph unaffordable.
It would be great if he does bounce-back, but if JPP continues to flounder with injuries, I guess Defensive End will become a major need next offseason. But we will have plenty of money to spend...
Cofield did well, but he hardly signed for the bucks that LinJo may very well get