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Schefter: Justin Tuck visiting the Raiders today

Defenderdawg : 3/12/2014 6:48 am
Day two begins:

Adam Schefterŝ@AdamSchefter·2 mins
Giants DE Justin Tuck and Former Steelers LB LaMarr Woodley both are visiting the Oakland Raiders today, per sources.
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money and years....too bad.....but I certainly wouldn't blame him  
George from PA : 3/12/2014 7:29 am : link
Oakland let their best players go yesterday......can offer a big deal....I also bet the jennings signing pissed them off....
if the Raiders are willing to pay big money for Tuck  
Peter from CT : 3/12/2014 7:43 am : link
then their front office hasn't changed a bit. I love Tuck, but his body of work over the last three years doesn't justify a big contract. If he signs with Oakland, good for him, but he (and Oakland) will wind up regretting it.

Why would the Jennings signing  
CromartiesKid21 : 3/12/2014 7:43 am : link
Piss off the raiders? Their the ones who chose McFadden over Jennings to begin with...
wow...what an opportunity for him to have Giants fans LOVE him more  
Neckbone1333 : 3/12/2014 7:44 am : link
Get a big offer from the Raiders and then turn that down to finish your career with the Giants for much less money.

RE: Why would the Jennings signing  
robbieballs2003 : 3/12/2014 7:44 am : link
In comment 11553030 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Piss off the raiders? Their the ones who chose McFadden over Jennings to begin with...


Jennings was on his way to NY to sign before McFadden signed/agreed to terms.
if you were reading the tea leaves in Oakland  
George from PA : 3/12/2014 7:52 am : link
they were not planning on re-signing McFadden and Jennings was a team and fan favorite.

losing all the players they lost yesterday with 60 million in cap has to be a PR nightmare.
Rock Newsday  
Defenderdawg : 3/12/2014 7:53 am : link
Tom Rockŝ@TomRock_Newsday·1 min
Tuck wanted to give Giants a chance to match any offer he received. Fact he's visiting Raiders seems to indicate they haven't.
Can't blame Tuck for going for the money grab  
Giantology : 3/12/2014 8:00 am : link
But oof, have fun being a bottom dweller.
...  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2014 8:04 am : link
ree agents Justin Tuck and LaMarr Woodley are visiting the Raiders Wednesday.
On Tuesday, Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie let his best offensive lineman (Jared Veldheer) walk, overpaid for Rodger Saffold, let reliable Rashad Jennings walk, let his best defender Lamarr Houston walk and re-signed injury-prone Darren McFadden. So how will he spend the rest of his money? Perhaps on two aging, declining edge rushers in search of a payday. Tuck, who will turn 31 later this month, looked done prior to his 9.5-sack outburst over the final six games of last year. Woodley, 29, has missed 14 games over the last three seasons.
Related: Raiders, LaMarr Woodley
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Mar 12 - 7:47 AM
Raiders  
Sammo284 : 3/12/2014 8:12 am : link
Need to spend. If Tuck leaves we will have to add a DE.
Raiders are so bad at this...  
Jimmy Googs : 3/12/2014 8:18 am : link
and I think they made some real bad moves yesterday too.

You can just see the pile of cash they will throw at Tuck and Woodley.

Hopefully Tuck has invested his money soundly over the years and decides to stay in NY.

I'm surprised that the media  
kmed : 3/12/2014 8:27 am : link
has been so spot on with Tuck and his "production" last year. I would have guessed that they'd all be pimping his 12 sacks as opposed to calling it like it is.

It doesn't appear as though the Gmen are trying all that hard to retain JT, I'd be very curious to know what the Giants offer was.

Seems like the more things change, the more they stay the same in Oakland.
I  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2014 8:29 am : link
love Tuck but this is a truly idiotic fit for the Raiders (makes sense for Tuck in terms of $$... which I'm assuming they will throw at him).
Hard to see this happening on a few levels.  
Beez : 3/12/2014 8:29 am : link
I agree that if the money is overwhelming, he may need to make a decision there for the future of his family. But he also has a tremendous connection with the Tri-State community, active off the field, and he certainly isn't making chump change for his commercial ventures in and around NYC.

I don't see it happening. If it does, so be it, but I'd certainly feel better having him back, and to finish his career in blue.
Tuck  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2014 8:32 am : link
also didn't seem like a guy who wanted play beyond being "hungry" as a player. I totally get wanting a lot of money (I can't fault him) but the Raiders are absolutely putrid, does he really have it in him to potentially play through injury in a situation like that? It's one thing if God forbid he signed with the Cowboys or Eagles for a lot of money but the Raiders?
Tuck has two rings.  
section125 : 3/12/2014 8:35 am : link
Now he'd likely some cash. Don't blame him, but I will miss him. No hate, no disappointment. It is a business.
D'Monster hopefully is ready.
Maybe  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2014 8:37 am : link
I'm reading too far into things but the writers seem to imply the Giants saw Schofield taking on the role they envisioned for Moore last year. Does that imply they are already "moving on" or down on Moore?
I wouldn't blame him  
Greg from LI : 3/12/2014 8:37 am : link
This will be his last big NFL contract. He's got two rings, what else does he have to play for except money?
Tuck  
Arcanum : 3/12/2014 8:38 am : link
Maybe has 2 years left in him. Right now, he's paper chasing. And I hope the dumb ass raiders give him a Peyton Manning contract.
Dan,  
kmed : 3/12/2014 8:40 am : link
With Schofield, Moore and Kiwi still on the roster, I would think it's an open competition. With the money they just gave Schofield, I would think he's the guy they think will win it.
Can't fault Tuck for taking a bigger payday.  
smshmth8690 : 3/12/2014 8:41 am : link
I'd love to have him back, but if he's going to leave, the AFC West is about the best place to go - from where I sit.
This is his last payday  
Essex : 3/12/2014 8:47 am : link
and if someone is going to blow him away with money, he should take it for his family. He has two rings, accomplished much what he wants to do in football and it is not like we are real contenders this year, anyway.
I think Tuck got to look after his family first and foremost  
Mason : 3/12/2014 8:52 am : link
But a younger Tuck was confident that Strahan wouldn't take an offer from a team like the Raiders back in 08 because it would somehow impact his Giants legacy when Strahan was unsure of retirement. What has changed about the Raiders?
cant blame Tuck  
Blue Blood : 3/12/2014 8:56 am : link
this is most likely his last contract.. he has rings.. this is about getting whatever he can.. wont blame anyone for that..
He  
AcidTest : 3/12/2014 9:05 am : link
should take the $$$.
Also  
Essex : 3/12/2014 9:12 am : link
I should add if he does take the money, he will still always be a true Giant. One of my favorite of all time. There are not enough good adjectives that I could use for him. Hardly complained (except Eli stealing his two MVPs), played at a high level when not injured, and battled through injury (even if coach had to coax him in 2011). Love him.
Hate to say it  
SLIM : 3/12/2014 9:13 am : link
but it is probably a blessing. We don't want to overpay for Tuck. Younger and faster is what we need.

As for Schofield in Moore's role. I'm hoping that Moore has/is filling out his frame this offseason and comes back as more of an end than tweener.
Raider Nation  
Vin R : 3/12/2014 9:16 am : link
will love Tuck & his Shredder facemask
They can have Tuck  
Rflairr : 3/12/2014 9:22 am : link
Guy acts like he's hurt or sore after every play. One of the most underachieving Giants last season
Tuck already  
Metnut : 3/12/2014 9:22 am : link
has 2 rings and the Giants didn't exactly look anywhere near close to contending last year. I think just about anyone in Tuck's spot would take the extra $$$ and years, especially considering that this is likely his last chance at a nice payday.

Regardless of who Tuck signs with, he's a Giant great for life IMO.
Yea, I love Tuck...  
Jan in DC : 3/12/2014 9:24 am : link
but the Raiders have a history of giving lesser players than him MONSTER deals, so you have to at least take a meeting there.

I was hopeful that we could get him and Beason back at cap friendly deals, but that might just be pie in the sky thinking at this point.
he  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/12/2014 9:27 am : link
has his two rings...this is his last contract...plus the Giants are rebuilding.
After reading this thread I had no idea he had,,  
Vin R : 3/12/2014 9:28 am : link
two rings :)
You can;t fault...  
Chris in Philly : 3/12/2014 9:34 am : link
the guy for going out and getting wined and dined to experience free agency. Doesn't mean he won't come back here cheap. Either way, I'm okay with it...
Tuck  
Les in TO : 3/12/2014 9:43 am : link
if I'm Tuck, and my decision was between Oakland and the Gmen, this is how I see it:

Pros of going to Oakland/cons of staying in NY: quantify extra compensation, better weather, chance to cement image by leading a less than stellar team to better results on the field

Pros of staying in NY/saying no to Oakland: quantify extra sponorship, media/entertainment and chartiable opportunities in NY, no need to uproot family, better ownership of franchise/less sketchy of a reputation, chance to win another ring during the Eli-window (albeit with other changes needed and some luck), image of being a Giant for life/post-football opportunities in the organization.

Either way, he's a smart guy and he'll make the right choice....I loved him for life after his wrecking ball performance in sb 42 and the preceding playoff run, and my man crush only blossomed after 46.
RE: That's ok. We have O'Brien Schofield  
BigBlueBuff : 3/12/2014 9:46 am : link
In comment 11552998 Ira said:
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who has no real position on the Giants.
What an idiotic statement considering that he played for the Super Bowl champs who also run a 4-3. Really not one of your finest moments.
No problem with Tuck leaving  
nyynyg : 3/12/2014 9:52 am : link
This team needs to reload and stop hoping that elders will regain or be able to maintain their performance from younger years.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 3/12/2014 10:35 am : link
Want JT back, as long as they aren't breaking the bank for him.
ummm  
fkap : 3/12/2014 11:58 am : link
Tom Rockŝ@TomRock_Newsday·1 min
Tuck wanted to give Giants a chance to match any offer he received. Fact he's visiting Raiders seems to indicate they haven't.

Don't you have to go out and receive an offer in order for the Giants to match? Tom's comment makes no sense without further qualification.
I understand the business side of things  
Rjanyg : 3/12/2014 1:18 pm : link
I just hate the idea of Tuck playing in another uniform. He is a great Giant and a leader of this defense. He got every penny of his $30M contract from 2007 and he has lived in NYC/NJ market with many perks and opportunities. The SUBWAY gig alone has brought millions to his wallet.

I could only wish he would look at the big picture when making his decision. If not, good luck in Oakland where older players go to die.
Kevin Boss did the same  
BlackLight : 3/12/2014 1:30 pm : link
Got his championship ring - realized that with his injury history, he should go for the money, and that's what he did. Can't begrudge him that.
is this for real? or a joke?  
mattlawson : 3/12/2014 4:29 pm : link
"@Roldyjeanlouis: @JROCPROD @newbro1 @shakes251984 Tuck signed wit the Raiders" nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


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Who the hell are all of those illiterate  
kmed : 3/12/2014 4:34 pm : link
idiots?
RE: Who the hell are all of those illiterate  
pa_giant_fan : 3/12/2014 4:37 pm : link
In comment 11555550 kmed said:
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idiots?


Eagle Fans
Please sign  
Spock : 3/12/2014 6:12 pm : link
While out there.
This is Tuck's second contract  
WideRight : 3/12/2014 7:18 pm : link
After his rookie deal. His first was a little below market, but still good $$. He doesn't need an extra million. He needs a market price to negotiate with the Giants.

He's clearly not seeing the market his agent hoped for  
JonC : 3/12/2014 8:54 pm : link
~$7M per ... I'm not sure he sees half that number unless the Raiders or other cap-lite team steps up.
RE: ...  
Boy Cord : 3/12/2014 9:15 pm : link
In comment 11553060 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
ree agents Justin Tuck and LaMarr Woodley are visiting the Raiders Wednesday.
On Tuesday, Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie let his best offensive lineman (Jared Veldheer) walk, overpaid for Rodger Saffold, let reliable Rashad Jennings walk, let his best defender Lamarr Houston walk and re-signed injury-prone Darren McFadden. So how will he spend the rest of his money? Perhaps on two aging, declining edge rushers in search of a payday. Tuck, who will turn 31 later this month, looked done prior to his 9.5-sack outburst over the final six games of last year. Woodley, 29, has missed 14 games over the last three seasons.
Related: Raiders, LaMarr Woodley
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Mar 12 - 7:47 AM



I have no idea what the Raiders are doing. I feel sorry for their fans. The NFL is better when the Raiders are good.
just  
M in CT : 3/12/2014 9:56 pm : link
mind boggling decision making in OAK if they give Tuck a lot of money. they have a long-term rebuilding project underway and they invest in a pass rusher who is clearly past his prime?

and like others have pointed out, they've done this before with players like richard seymour.
..................  
sphinx : 3/12/2014 11:34 pm : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 57s
Meanwhile, Justin Tuck's visit with the Raiders is not over. He's dining with the team tonight.

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