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With the 12th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft the NYG select.....

Jumbo : 3/19/2014 8:12 pm
Aaron Donald, DT, University of Pittsburgh. I haven't posted in quite awhile but I had to throw this on. Donald had a killer combine. At 6'1" 285 lbs he ran a 4.68 40, and benched 225lbs. 35 times. Was 1st team all-American and all ACC. Was Outland Trophy, Chuck Bednarik and Bronko Nagurski Award winner....Athletic freak who was unblockable last year. He is totally a Jerry Reese type pick.
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Donald  
TMS : 3/20/2014 8:52 am : link
constitutes a gamble because of his size at the DT position. We should not be taking gambles with the 12th pick in the draft. Reese gambled on Sintim, Austin, Barden, etc. No more gambles. The guy is under sized period.
every player in the draft is a gamble...  
nyblue56 : 3/20/2014 10:13 am : link
how many top 10 picks dont live up to the hype and end up as bust? Forget about this guys size, beleive what your eyes are telling you. he is a footbal player. take a look at the levelrage and technique he uses. take a look at how he uses his hands. Dont argue with your eyes, what you are seeing will translate very well in the NFL. this guy can play DT or DE and excel at both. He is an impact player.
So better to draft Donald and then fix the O-line  
Jimmy Googs : 3/20/2014 10:20 am : link
in 2015?

Schwartz is nice but he can only play one position at a time.



Donald is the guy I want them to pick  
Patrick77 : 3/20/2014 10:29 am : link
Every player is a gamble and because of his size he is definitely a gamble, but the quickness, speend, and strength is undeniable. If he continues to get stronger, plays with proper technique and gives 100% I don't see any way he isn't an impact player in the NFL.

I will agree that maybe you don't want him at DT on many run downs or the goalline but you could move him out to DE IMO for some downs. To me he sounds like a Randle, Sapp, Atkins, or even Ratliff type of player. He can always pack on a few more pounds if need be but he is going to blow up some plays just based on his quickness and strentgth. I think in the NFL teams will try to run right at him with success and I think often in between successful runs he will get a big tackle for a loss, pressure, or be in the backfield early. If Hankins and our linebackers do their job a guy like Donald can provide pressure inside. Right now we only have Jenkins for that, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jenkins played a lot of time at DE next year.

That would be up to Reese...  
nyblue56 : 3/20/2014 10:35 am : link
as to what he sees is more important. I dont care wether we get a blue chip OL or DL. However to dismiss Donald base on size is silly. If the decison is Donald I am more then happy.
RE: Miami's interior  
NJGiantFan84 : 3/20/2014 10:36 am : link
In comment 11575547 BigBlueCane said:
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which isn't any good, Owned Donald all game. Tell me again how he's gonna have any impact or effect at the NFL level.


Everyone has bad games. You need to look at the body of work.
the funny thing is the miami...  
nyblue56 : 3/20/2014 10:49 am : link
game would be considered a very good game for anyother DT not name Donald.
I agree that dismissing Donald just for the size factor  
Jimmy Googs : 3/20/2014 11:00 am : link
is too harsh, but obviously everything is fair-game when you are finalizing your top pick.

I also typically defer to the BPA strategy each year, but at least try to narrow it down somewha) into area(s) of need as well in order to get the best of both worlds.

In this case; however, I consider O-line an area of DESPERATION so I am looking for Reese to play it smart there.
RE: RE: Just how is this a  
buljos : 3/20/2014 12:24 pm : link
In comment 11575759 Dan in the Springs said:
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In comment 11575529 BillT said:


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Reese like his DTs big and tall. 6'4/5" or so. 310/20 or so. Donald is short and small even for a college DT. Great athlete but how well will he do with a 320 lb. OG nose on nose with him week after week. I think he might be best as a 3-4 OLB like a bigger Terrell Suggs. There is always the exception though. Is he that guy?



Actually, look at last year's opening day roster at the position:

Linval Joseph 6'4"
Cullen Jenkins 6'2"
Jonathan Hankins 6'2" (by the way, the latest Reese pick at this position)
Mike Patterson 6'1"
Shaun Rogers 6'4"
Markus Kuhn 6'4"

So even though in 2013 Reese signed two free agent DT's at 6'2 and 6'1, and drafted another at 6'2, this year 6'1 is not a "Reese" pick because he's not "6'4/5" or so"?

I don't doubt that all things being equal, the Giants would rather get a guy with height (like Canty) and size. That's not to say that all things are equal, and especially not in the case of Donald vs. the rest of the DT class.


Thanks... puts to rest the inaccurate perception that the Giants DTs must be tall big guys. Patterson's how much taller than Donald? This DT's as fast as a LB, and if Donald's being double and triple teamed as a Giant, then JPP, D'Monster, Jenkins, Hankins, etc. ought to be ashamed. Would I want a 3rd and long package to be JPP, D'Monster, Jenkins and Donald, with our outstanding secondary in coverage? Yes, I would.
TRADE on Draft Day  
MadTeck : 3/20/2014 12:29 pm : link
The last time the Giants made a major splash on draft day was 11 yrs ago. We got our franchise QB and two Super Bowl wins. A draft day dream would be to trade 2014 Rd 2 & Rd 3 + 2015 Rd 2 & Rd 3 for 2014 #1 pick. The Texans could rebuild the next two yrs. We have many pieces but not a DL presence, Clowney on one side and a healthy JPP on the other. The tandem would be unstoppable, especially with the DB roster we have now.. It's a pipe dream, but it would get more Lombardi's in Big Blue's trophy case.
Letting Tuck go with what Justin claimed was an insulting  
Lurts : 3/20/2014 12:50 pm : link
offer, rather than keeping their options open, suggests that Reese was ready to move on. Reese does not move on without a pretty good plan. I wouldn't be surprised if Donald is his man.
Donald replaces Tuck?  
Jimmy Googs : 3/20/2014 1:11 pm : link
Is this a fair view that he can play DE in the pros?

No, doesn't replace Tuck  
jeff57 : 3/20/2014 1:14 pm : link
But he can play DE in certain situtations.
RE: Donald reminds me of Rich Glover  
TMS : 3/20/2014 2:34 pm : link
In comment 11575883 gtt350 said:
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Glover was always in on the tackle unfortunately it was always 5 to 7 yards downfield. no to Donald, he will get owned in the NFL
This is an excellent comparison. Glover was a big favorite in college and was blown away in the NFL. Why because he was too small and could not get off blocks or disengage from the bigger OL here.
Glover was a third round pick  
Lurts : 3/20/2014 3:12 pm : link
for a reason.
Rich Glover was 6-1 240  
jeff57 : 3/20/2014 3:15 pm : link
John Mendanhall was 6-1 255.
I guess Strahan...  
nyblue56 : 3/20/2014 3:58 pm : link
at 255-260 was getting blown off the line by OLs as well.
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