Who was your fav TE after Bavaro

Don't the talent and lack of discipline generally go hand in hand for Miami players?

6-3, 240, ran like a WR.
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for Mowatt.

depending on your perspective Obviously there was nobody like Bavaro. No one even comes close. I would say Zeke Mowatt but they played together. I wish I could say Shockey but he was a dickhead with a ton of talent who couldn't stay healthy and we all know the drill.

Howard Cross was a team player and a great blocker but didn't get a lot of passes thrown his way. Then there's Kevin Boss. He turned out to be a good blocker. And a team player who took some hellacious hits when catching the ball over the middle. Who can forget him rumbling down the field in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl 46 that started the ball rolling towards that epic win.

Above all the rest for me it has to be the Boss man. Kevin Boss. I was sad that the Giants didn't re-sign him but overall his career wasn't that long because he had quite a few concussions and that really did spell the end of his playing days.

was great with Bavaro. Shockey in his rookie year. After that not so much. Howard Cross and then Dan Campbell.

although he certainly wasn't a skilled receiver, he wasn't totally worthless. He definitely could make a timely catch, even in the endzone. Add that to his amazing blocking and the fact the he was virtually always healthy...he was a damn nice Tight End for New York.

In comment 11580186 BlueLou said:

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He did everything well, starting late as a rookie when asked to fill Shockey's rather enormous shoes and tiny skull. His knowledge of the O, even as a rookie, surpassed Shockey's after shockey had been in the system for years, and allowed Gillbride to dial up more variations which IMO were crucial to a miraculous SB run, and were the keys to Eli finally living up to his promise (for a while) as an "elite" QB... Have we successfully run a WR bubble screen (like we did to Nicks and Manningham)since Boss left? He and Steve Smith were such "all-team" guys, who blocked their hearts out even if they weren't the most naturally talented blockers - or even players. He knew how to keep David Diehl protected to such an extent that DD actually made a pro-bowl, too! Zeke Mowatt was a better player, however briefly, and Tucker a far better receiver (but not blocker) but Boss was a great team guy and a key element to the SB run. For a while Boss was one of the guys helping to drive the bus, not just a passenger.

look at Boss's numbers vs Mowatt, Boss was the better player.

In comment 11580550 baadbill said:

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was great with Bavaro. Shockey in his rookie year. After that not so much. Howard Cross and then Dan Campbell.

Yea, I would have to add Boss. And in fact, might actually rank him 2nd behind Bavaro.

Then Shockey almost 500 yds more in same period of time, both played 6 years for NY.

Then Cross

As an aside, for anyone interested, Howard Cross has more receiving yds as a tight end for the Giants than anyone not named Bavaro or Shockey. Just thought I'd mention that, for those who think he never caught any passes.

Kevin Boss is fourth on the list, and incidentally, 4th all time in rcv yards as a TE for the giants, ahead of Mowatt, Cambell, McConkey etc etc.

I never saw Tucker play, but it looks like he belongs at #3 all time behind Bavaro and Shockey.

In comment 11580364 Matt M. said:

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Then there is Mowatt, who if he never got hurt, may have never even opened the door for Bavaro. Mowatt was an excellent all around TE in his own right. After him it is Shockey, then Cross, then a huge drop off.

Boss has more receiving yds than Mowatt, and I think he was a better blocker as well.

In comment 11579588 Red Dog said:

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in no particular order.

agreed

Mullady

Just think of how good Shockey could have beenif he wished to be,#38 Bob Tucker,#89 Mark Bavaro, Howard Cross was an outstanding blocker...

In comment 11580550 baadbill said:
[quote] was great with Bavaro. Shockey in his rookie year. After that not so much. Howard Cross and then Dan Campbell. [/quoWhat did Dan Campbell ever do for the Giants???

In comment 11581057 GNTS-1 said:

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In comment 11580550 baadbill said: [quote] was great with Bavaro. Shockey in his rookie year. After that not so much. Howard Cross and then Dan Campbell. [/quoWhat did Dan Campbell ever do for the Giants???

Gnts, I really liked Campbell. A very strong blocker, maybe one of the best blocking TE the Giants have had ... and while not blessed with great speed, he made some clutch catches to move the chains.

Just went back and read some about Campbell ... first of all, I thought he played for the Giants longer than he did. Secondly, although I knew he as primarily a blocking TE, I didn't realize just how few catches he had. So, while I still think he was a great blocking TE (basically an extra lineman), he was more one dimensional than I recalled.

When he got that first down against the Eagles with no helmet on, I list my damn mind

Shirk. Guy played hard during some lean years.

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