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Eric Ebron, EX-NFL Scout's Take on him

Big Blue 5 : 3/22/2014 3:11 pm
I found this very interesting. With a glaring need at TE we most definitely should take him with our first pick, especially after this comparision to one of the best TE's. He would be a top target for Eli for the rest of his career and also for Eli's replacement. A TE would be great to have ease the transition due to the fact a TE is a QB's best friend. In the end, i think Ebron is a great value at 12 and fills a need that hasn't been where we need it to be since Shockey left.
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RE: Actually, I think it's a TC thing  
TMS : 3/22/2014 6:43 pm : link
In comment 11580920 Phil from WNY said:
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as TC is more run-oriented than Gilbride. I think the Giants are presently committing to the running game as a means towards opening up the passing game.

There is no denying Ebron's talent; I just can't see the Giants taking him.
Agree with this analysis. We are beefing up the Ol with bigger bodies and just signed Jennings, a big RB who runs between the guards and tackles. TC has always preferred big backs and a strong running game. Ebron is a finesse TE who wants to be a WR. Do not see it as a fit with value and need at #12.
Ebron  
ghost718 : 3/22/2014 6:44 pm : link
All you have to is watch the video,North Carolina vs Duke.It's right there on Youtube,at about 5:23 he's on special teams and just lets the guy go right by him.

He's not a physical player to say the least,but I'm not surprised Reese likes him.
Only problem with trading down to get him  
#10* : 3/22/2014 6:45 pm : link
is other teams already know how we feel about him so they will almost certainly jump ahead. We would have to be hot on another player just as much who would be there.
Coughlin  
stretch234 : 3/22/2014 7:40 pm : link
Go look back at Jacksonville with their numbers

1996 Passing - 1st rushing - 17th
1997 Passing - 4th rushing - 18th
1998 Passing - 20th rushing - 5th
1999 Passing - 12th rushing - 2nd
2000 Passing - 9th rushing - 10th
2001 Passing - 18th rushing - 26th
2002 Passing - 28th rushing - 10th
2003 Passing - 15th rushing - 8th

When you examine the attempts to yards, they had a down the field passing game. Go look and see what numbers Smith & McCardell put up under Coughlin
I think Ebron would be a terrific pick, if ….  
Manny in CA : 3/22/2014 10:34 pm : link
The Giants are willing to modify their offense to a New England Patriots kind of offense - unstoppable intermediate passing attack, with a strong running game.

What I'm saying is that Ebron can be the next Aaron Hernandez (before Aaron went gangsta and started shooting people). But as a traditional high quality tight end (can bot catch & block worthy of a near top 10 pick), I don't think he qualifies.

IF the Giants could 1st fix their O-line problems, then draft TWO tight ends (Grongowski & Hernandez look-alikes), then yes why not.
TE is a Need  
BBurns : 3/22/2014 11:04 pm : link
I just Rather get Younger and Stronger in the Trenches .
Donald Should be the Pick IMO .
Nothing disrupts an offense more than pressure up
the Middle . As Great as Ebron May end up Being .
Look at guys like Ballard and Boss .
Pretty sure we won two Super Bowls with them .
If a Guy Like Lewan is there it could be a toss up .
We could get a Decent TE in the 3rd and maybe go
WR Center or Guard .in the 2nd round .
Donald reminds me a bit of John Mendenhall
but Quicker .
Ebron won't be there at 12  
bigblueheadache : 3/23/2014 5:28 am : link
As much as I like Ebron and have advocated for the Giants taking him (runs like a wide receiver and can block better than most think), he won't be there. I'm 90% sure the pick is Zack Martin.
Why would he not be there?  
illmatic : 3/23/2014 6:12 am : link
How many teams are rushing to blow a top 10ish pick on a TE? A TE who is an average blocker. We're too caught up in the whole Vernon Davis/Jimmy Graham/Gronkowski thing. Everyone wants to latch onto the next one. I'd bet big money Ebron won't be better than any of those three guys at their peak, though.

And it sounds like you're trying to do a little reverse psychology or something to psyche yourself up into thinking you'll be stuck seeing the Giants take a player you don't want.
RE: Why would he not be there?  
GmenDynasty : 3/23/2014 6:34 am : link
In comment 11581737 illmatic said:
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How many teams are rushing to blow a top 10ish pick on a TE? A TE who is an average blocker. We're too caught up in the whole Vernon Davis/Jimmy Graham/Gronkowski thing. Everyone wants to latch onto the next one. I'd bet big money Ebron won't be better than any of those three guys at their peak, though.

And it sounds like you're trying to do a little reverse psychology or something to psyche yourself up into thinking you'll be stuck seeing the Giants take a player you don't want.


Value in the top 8 picks is way too high to go Ebron. Only teams that could go Ebron before us are Buffalo and Det. But they also have other high need areas. Chances are decent he falls to us.
most scouts say  
SBlue46 : 3/23/2014 12:30 pm : link
Ebron is Going end of
1st.. beginning
Of 2nd. I see Reese
Taking best wr
Or d/o line at 1.
WE trade and move
Up for ebron in 2nd.
RE: Actually, I think it's a TC thing  
dcable : 3/23/2014 12:39 pm : link
In comment 11580920 Phil from WNY said:
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as TC is more run-oriented than Gilbride. I think the Giants are presently committing to the running game as a means towards opening up the passing game.

There is no denying Ebron's talent; I just can't see the Giants taking him.


If thats the case, TC now running the Off, we're in BIG trouble
RE: RE: Actually, I think it's a TC thing  
dcable : 3/23/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 11581139 TMS said:
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In comment 11580920 Phil from WNY said:


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as TC is more run-oriented than Gilbride. I think the Giants are presently committing to the running game as a means towards opening up the passing game.

There is no denying Ebron's talent; I just can't see the Giants taking him.

Agree with this analysis. We are beefing up the Ol with bigger bodies and just signed Jennings, a big RB who runs between the guards and tackles. TC has always preferred big backs and a strong running game. Ebron is a finesse TE who wants to be a WR. Do not see it as a fit with value and need at #12.


So if the opposing Def brings a safety in the box to stop the run, who does Eli throw a pass to? Actually, unless the def fears the pass, they caqn easily shut down the run game.
RE: Why would he not be there?  
Toth029 : 3/23/2014 4:02 pm : link
In comment 11581737 illmatic said:
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How many teams are rushing to blow a top 10ish pick on a TE? A TE who is an average blocker. We're too caught up in the whole Vernon Davis/Jimmy Graham/Gronkowski thing. Everyone wants to latch onto the next one. I'd bet big money Ebron won't be better than any of those three guys at their peak, though.

And it sounds like you're trying to do a little reverse psychology or something to psyche yourself up into thinking you'll be stuck seeing the Giants take a player you don't want.
Why label him "just a TE" and act like it's bad? Davis, Gronk, and Graham are great players. Graham especially CANNOT block, nor tries, and nobody tries playing it off like anybody wants him. If Ebron is better at receiving than blocking, that's fine. Do you know who is on the team at TE? Do you know the last sheer athlete the Giants have had at TE? Do you realize how small the current Giant receivers are?

No matter what, whoever they pick at #12 needs to play right away. It's a premium pick, in my view, because it's such a strong draft. Getting Martin is fine, but he would absolutely need to play otherwise they're just delaying the inevitable. Evans or Ebron I would prefer the most, but I am getting tired of seeing these TE posts. They need receivers, plain and simple.
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