Your latest top five targets at 12

Matthews. Could happen...
Mack. Same thing.
Gilbert.
Evans.
Lewan.

1 - Donald
2 - Martin
3 - Evans
4 - Barr
5 - Mosley

I thought robbieballs we would be drafting a CB accordingly to you we don't draft need and those are the top available players. Like I said BS!

In comment 11581229 GmenDynasty said:

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Bortles Clowney Matthews Mack Robinson Manziel Watkins Gilbert Carr (amazing pro-day solidifies his spot early) Bridgewater (tape too good and bad pro-day was overblown) Dennard

So you would draft one of those QBs if they were left and everybody else was gone?

In comment 11581244 Dave in Buffalo said:

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Matthews. Could happen... Mack. Same thing. Gilbert. Evans. Lewan.

Matthews or Mack would be friggen awesome. Mack has the potential to be bigger playmaker than Willis.

1) Donald
2) Barr
3) Ebron
4) Evans
5) Z. Martin

Evans, Martin, Donald, y'know, that's only 3, but I know better than to get my hopes up for certain guys. I like Lee. I like Ebron. Just don't love 'em. The one thing that I would really like is a trade down, and get more picks ambit such a deep draft.

1. Lewan
2. Donald
3. Ebron
4. Evans
5. Martin

Lewan
Barr
Ebron
Donald

Ideally you match elite physical traits, production and upside in the 1st Round. All five of these prospects bring that combination to the table.

1) Donald
2) Lewan
3) Evans
4) Barr
5) Ebron

1-Donald
2-Evans
3-Barr
4-Lewan

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1. Jernigan
2. Donald
3. Lewan
4. Evans
5. Mosley

In comment 11581305 BigBlueBuff said:

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1. Jernigan 2. Donald 3. Lewan 4. Evans 5. Mosley

Not a big fan of DTs in the first half of round 1 unless they are potential pass rushing beasts with elite college production. Only Donald fits that bill.

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Unless Jake Matthews or Sammy Watkins slip to #12:

Mike Evans
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
Aaron Donald
Eric Ebron

I like Anthony Barr and Khalil Mack, but I am so damn tired of the trying to make the OLB/DE 'tweener fit this defense.

The more I think about it, the more I think Mike Evans would be the best fit.

a thread asking for it.

Ebron
Lewan
Donald
Evans
Martin

1. Evans
2. Barr
3. Ebron
4. Donald
5. Martin

Donald
Martin
Evans
Lewan
Ealy

2 months til the draft, lol

Evans in rd 1 with a slight trade down if possible to pick up extra pick and get our TE in the 2nd - Jace Amaro or Troy Niklas.

but I really don't love anyone likely to be available at 12.

More so then most years, I'd love a trade down and an extra second rounder.

But to play along:

Ebron
Donald
Tuitt
Martin
Jernigan

1. Lewan
2. Donald
3. Barr
4. Evans
5. Ebron

If they don't plan on paying Prince.

In comment 11581317 BigBlueBuff said:

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a thread asking for it.

Relax there preppy. It was a discussion point.

Barr
Lewan
Evans

if none are there then try to trade down if can't then Jernnigan

Barr is an young Jason Taylor. Taylor Thrived in a 4-3 D

Only reason Evans is 3rd choice is because so many good WR's should be availble in rnd 2 like Matthews, Adams, Robinson, Landry, Moncrief

Ebron
Evans
Donald
Lewan
Martin

1) Lewan
2) Donald
3) Evans
4) Ebron
5) Dennard

Martin
Donald
Lewan
Mack
Su'a-Filo

If Evans ran a 4.40 and could get any separation I'd be all for him, but he can't and doesn't.

If Ebron ran about 4.5 I'd have him on the list too. He might still be worth it, depending upon McAdoo's offensive scheme as well as their opinion about Robinson and Donnell.

If Ealy played the run better he might be worth it too.

1. Taylor Lewan
2. Aaron Donald
3. Anthony Barr
4. Zack Martin
5. Timmy Jernigan

Will be VERY pissed if we go Eric Ebron or Mike Evans in the 12 hole.

In comment 11581731 M.S. said:

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1. Taylor Lewan 2. Aaron Donald 3. Anthony Barr 4. Zack Martin 5. Timmy Jernigan Will be VERY pissed if we go Eric Ebron or Mike Evans in the 12 hole.

Why so down on a beast WR and TE?

...I'm down on WR because I believe we have enough talent at that position to be a very competitive ball club.

...I'm not as much down at the TE position since there is an obvious gaping talent hole there.

But I'm of the opinion that neither position (especially WR) is very meaningful without a plus offensive line. We need quality and depth at Tackle and Center and I'd like these 2 positions filled in the first 3 rounds, preferably first two.

WR or TE in the 12 hole gets in the way of that task IMO.

Then, again, if the value at O-line just isn't there at 12, then we could certainly use a plus talent on the D-line in light of losing Linval Joseph and Justin Tuck. Aaron Donald is my guy in that case.

...after QB, the most important unit on the field is the offensive line followed closely behind by the defensive line.

...this team isn't really going anywhere until Eli Manning and our run game play at a much higher level than 2013.

The offensive line is the solution to both of these issues, with TE a distant second and WR not even in consideration.

1 - Lewan
2 - Ebron
3 - Donald
4 - Jernigan
5 - Zack Martin

In comment 11581740 GmenDynasty said:

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In comment 11581731 M.S. said: Quote: 1. Taylor Lewan 2. Aaron Donald 3. Anthony Barr 4. Zack Martin 5. Timmy Jernigan Will be VERY pissed if we go Eric Ebron or Mike Evans in the 12 hole. Why so down on a beast WR and TE?

Maybe because not everybody considers them beasts. What if Evans is the next Joe Jurevicius/Reggie Williams is that worth the #12 pick? Ebron is one of the top TE's in this draft but may be a smidge overrated at #12 as teams try to find the next Jimmy Graham/Rob Gronkowski but I, and others, are not sure he is on that same level. If someone like Troy Niklas slides I would rather take him in Round 3 (or nab an underrated TE like Marcel Jensen later in the draft) versus taking Ebron at #12 if comparable talent at other positions are there with our first selection

I do not see any reason not to take Lewan, if there, at #12. We need a top tackle and we can move Pugh to Guard and he will excel. We need a top DE for the rotation and Martin should be there in the 2nd, solid DE potential. There is a need for another "good" DT and Ferguson should work exceptionally well in the 3rd. I have the fastest OLB, don't know if he will still be there but, Kevin Pierre-Louis in the 4th for containment and blitzing from the outside. AC Greene, TE, is a natural vertical threat with his speed and size, he will need to develop better blocking skills though, should be the pick in the 5th. And lastly, in the 6th rd, I have Seantrelle Henderson who is a giant with excellent speed, although a bit raw.

1 T. Lewan OT
2 K. Martin DE
3 E. Ferguson DT
4 KP Louis OLB
5 AC Greene TE
6 S. Henderson OT

In comment 11581213 jeff57 said:

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Donald Evans Martin Benjamin Barr

In comment 11581760 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 11581740 GmenDynasty said: Quote: In comment 11581731 M.S. said: Quote: 1. Taylor Lewan 2. Aaron Donald 3. Anthony Barr 4. Zack Martin 5. Timmy Jernigan Will be VERY pissed if we go Eric Ebron or Mike Evans in the 12 hole. Why so down on a beast WR and TE? Maybe because not everybody considers them beasts. What if Evans is the next Joe Jurevicius/Reggie Williams is that worth the #12 pick? Ebron is one of the top TE's in this draft but may be a smidge overrated at #12 as teams try to find the next Jimmy Graham/Rob Gronkowski but I, and others, are not sure he is on that same level. If someone like Troy Niklas slides I would rather take him in Round 3 (or nab an underrated TE like Marcel Jensen later in the draft) versus taking Ebron at #12 if comparable talent at other positions are there with our first selection

You are right in that not everyone will consider these guys stud players. However there is alot of reports around our interest level in both those guys.We also didnt try real hard for a WR either this offseason with all our other ssignings. Which is some of the big reasons I think we are going WR or TE at 12

In comment 11581753 M.S. said:

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...this team isn't really going anywhere until Eli Manning and our run game play at a much higher level than 2013. The offensive line is the solution to both of these issues, with TE a distant second and WR not even in consideration.

Agreed properly addressing the OL is huge. Which is why Id be amazed if we dont get one in the first 3 rds (most likely rd 2)

Nelson Agholar this season. Great speed and hands.

1. Eric Ebron. There isn't a starting caliber TE on the roster right now, this position has to be addressed in the first 2 rounds.

2. Jake Matthews. It is highly unlikely that he even makes it to 12, but he is the only tackle I would be happy with at 12. (Assuming there is no shot at Robinson. Don't want any part of Lewan or Martin)

3. Mike Evans. Need to find a replacement for Nicks, Im not convinced that Randle is that guy.

4. Anthony Barr. Not the ideal fit, but I think he is going to be a stud.

5. Timmy Jernigan. DT is a real possibility at 12, and I prefer him over Donald.

and has to fight for every ball. There are a number of really tall, strong receivers in this draft who have great speed and can get separation, and can be taken in later rounds.

Clearly teams must be seeing things in him that I don't since he's universally considered a guy who'll likely go in the top half of the first round. But I think that at 12 you can get a difference-maker at another position, and still get a great value pick at WR later in the draft.

but highly unlikely; therefore, my targets:

Lewan
Evans
Barr
Enron
Benjamin

Won't even get a sniff of Mack or Watkins.
1. Evans
2. Donald
3. Matthews. Only OL I'd take at 12
4. Ealy
5. Lee in no order
As mentioned, would welcome Shazier, but would have to trade up to get him if he gets out of the 1st.

1. Donald
2. Evans
3. Barr (but where do you play him?)
4. Ebron (another Myers if he can't block)
5. Martin (consolation prize)
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But with the FA signing I'll go with

Taylor Lewan
Zack Martion
Eric Ebron
Mike Evans
Tim Jernigan

1-Donald
2-Evans
One of those two should be there and I'm all in for Donald.If he happens to go before us then I would of wanted Gilbert if he drops but not now that we went wild in FA.
Evans is for real and has nice hands ,he runs fast too he should dominate at the next level.Donald is a perfect fit for us and we can tstunt him and he can rush the passer from anywhere.
top 12 are-Bortles,Mathews,Bridgewater,Manzeil,Robinson,Watkins,Mack, Clowney,Gilbert,Lewan,Barr.

for a guy that doesn't get separation /sarcasm he sure catches a lot of TD's behind the defense. Very physical blocker downfield in the ground attack. He's a complete football player. For me he's really separated(get it) himself at this stage and is my clear favorite if he lasts til #12(doubtful imo).

Lewan- I like his tape and he plays with some snarl. Rare athlete at his size. I think he'll be starting as a rookie and the sky is the limit. Our line needs to get tougher, he's the anti-Beatty in that regard.

Ebron- reminds me of Keith Jackson who killed us when he was with Philly. Similar body type and skillset. IMO he's the top TE prospect to come out since Vernon Davis.

Anthony Barr- He terrorizes QB's. It's that simple. He's knocked a bunch out of games and I think he'll do the same as a pro. That's good enough for me. If a professional coordinator can't find ways to put this guy in position to succeed he should be fired.

Johnny Manziel- I look at it this way...if you had a chance to draft Drew Brees would you? I see a host of similarities between the two. The most important of which is they make everyone around them better. Simply put he's a winner. Probably won't be available but this was my final slot so what the Hell.

I think the guy comes in and starts just like Pugh did last year. Eli needs to be protected AND we need to run the ball better if we are to make any run this year.

I like TE in round 2.