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Chris Snee talks with Mike Eisen on Giants.com

Defenderdawg : 3/28/2014 12:47 pm
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I feel like I can still play and play at a high level. I went up and I had meetings and got opinions from guys that I respect and they all felt that I could play and they wanted me here. So Im here.

Another opinion he sought was that of Tom Coughlin, who has not only been his lone NFL head coach, but is his father-in-law.

I had a meeting with him, too, Snee said. I wanted to update him and Jerry as to what my thinking was and also to get their opinions. Two guys that I respect, great football minds and talent evaluators. I asked him the same questions I asked Jerry. I wanted to know if they thought I could play. The answer was unanimous. I was wanted here.


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If his elbow and hip are truly  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2014 12:50 pm : link
healed and will allow him to function at a decent level, then yes, he can be a big help, imo, even if movd to OC..I have my personal and unfounded doubts that he can
I guess there  
AnishPatel : 3/28/2014 1:01 pm : link
are two issues. Health and then level of play we can expect. If healthy, what level can we expect? Average player, now when healthy? Above average? Pro bowler?

That's what I am interested in seeing, assuming he can stay healthy now. Health is step 1. Then, I hope he can be more than just an average player.
Chris Snee is crap  
EliMcAdooEra : 3/28/2014 1:03 pm : link
Dude is an atrocious pass-blocker

Terrible feet and lateral quickness...any quick DT can blow by him. He's a complete turnstile.

John Jerry SHOULD start over him.

But will he? That's the question. Nepotism will be a huge factor.
I can't remember another player who  
T-Bone : 3/28/2014 1:08 pm : link
I've wanted to see come back and play at, or close to, his former Pro Bowl level than Chris Snee.
I keep hearing the nepotism thing in association with Snee,  
an_idol_mind : 3/28/2014 1:11 pm : link
but I don't see any evidence of it having actually occurred yet.

Yes, he started in the last couple of years despite being lousy. But it's not like there was anybody clearly superior to him waiting in the wings. The guy used to be an all-pro and the Giants have been hoping he returns to form.

If he sucks again in the preseason and gets clearly outplayed yet still starts, then I can see the nepotism argument.
I am so sick of seeing  
kmed : 3/28/2014 1:11 pm : link
the word nepotism thrown around by a bunch of people that have no clue. Why are we to assume that it's nepotism? What has Coughlin or this organization ever done to lead anyone to believe that winning isn't their #1 priority? Yes, coughlin gives a lot of leeway to vets who have played their asses for him in the past, but is Diehl a member of his family? Imagine if he was, we would have been seeing nepotism for years!

The fact of the matter is, it's lazy to assume or even suggest that's whats happening.
RE: Chris Snee is crap  
Randy in CT : 3/28/2014 1:13 pm : link
In comment 11592403 EliMcAdooEra said:
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Dude is an atrocious pass-blocker

Terrible feet and lateral quickness...any quick DT can blow by him. He's a complete turnstile.

John Jerry SHOULD start over him.

But will he? That's the question. Nepotism will be a huge factor.
Can this POS have his account deleted?
RE: Chris Snee is crap  
BlueHurricane : 3/28/2014 1:18 pm : link
In comment 11592403 EliMcAdooEra said:
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Dude is an atrocious pass-blocker

Terrible feet and lateral quickness...any quick DT can blow by him. He's a complete turnstile.

John Jerry SHOULD start over him.

But will he? That's the question. Nepotism will be a huge factor.


OK.......... who's dupe is this^^^^^^^???


This quote pretty much sums up the reason why it is good he is still here plus you gotta like the fact he is moving more weight around than both Herman and Pugh.

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I started assuming that role when Shaun and Richie left, Snee said. I had Kareem and Diehl here, but we kind of all joined up. Diehls gone, Baas is gone, Boothe is gone. I really am the old guy in the room. Now Im working with (Eric) Herman (a 2103 seventh round draft choice) and Pugh. We work out together four days a week. The biggest thing with the young guys is just to get them to approach this as their job. Youre not sleeping until 11 oclock and coming in here and lifting. You have to get into a routine and really buckle down. You have to be in here now building the foundation. To their credit, theyve been doing a great job and to my credit, I can still put up more weight than them.
RE: I am so sick of seeing  
T-Bone : 3/28/2014 1:18 pm : link
In comment 11592430 kmed said:
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the word nepotism thrown around by a bunch of people that have no clue. Why are we to assume that it's nepotism? What has Coughlin or this organization ever done to lead anyone to believe that winning isn't their #1 priority? Yes, coughlin gives a lot of leeway to vets who have played their asses for him in the past, but is Diehl a member of his family? Imagine if he was, we would have been seeing nepotism for years!

The fact of the matter is, it's lazy to assume or even suggest that's whats happening.


^Like^
RE: RE: Chris Snee is crap  
kelsto811 : 3/28/2014 1:19 pm : link
In comment 11592434 Randy in CT said:
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In comment 11592403 EliMcAdooEra said:


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Dude is an atrocious pass-blocker

Terrible feet and lateral quickness...any quick DT can blow by him. He's a complete turnstile.

John Jerry SHOULD start over him.

But will he? That's the question. Nepotism will be a huge factor.

Can this POS have his account deleted?


Seconded
Yes, TC is exactly the type of guy  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2014 1:21 pm : link
who would fall prey to Nepotism..
Chris took a big pay cut to come back.....  
MOOPS : 3/28/2014 1:26 pm : link
and see if he can still play. And I'm pretty sure he'll decide on his own to retire if he sees that he's done during training camp.
Give the guy a chance. He's earned that much.
RE: Yes, TC is exactly the type of guy  
Default : 3/28/2014 1:32 pm : link
In comment 11592466 Big Blue '56 said:
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who would fall prey to Nepotism..

Right, cause he doesn't have his favorites?
Call it whatever you want  
oipolloi : 3/28/2014 1:38 pm : link
No way with his injuries that Snee would have gotten more than a vet minimum contract with any other team in the league


RE: Call it whatever you want  
kmed : 3/28/2014 1:45 pm : link
In comment 11592534 oipolloi said:
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No way with his injuries that Snee would have gotten more than a vet minimum contract with any other team in the league



1. You are guessing that, like most things you talk about, you don't know that as a fact.

2. He took a massive paycut and when he was healthy, he was a pro bowl caliber player.

3. You are talking out of your a**.....again.
TC's favorites are on the field, not off it..  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2014 1:58 pm : link
He may go too long at times with Vets, which is part of being old school..If he thought Snee couldn't play, he wouldn't..
If he is over his health issues and can get into the weight room,  
Simms11 : 3/28/2014 2:09 pm : link
he might become a factor at Guard this year. If he can't, he will at least be great value to the team as a back-up and mentor. With John Jerry and Mosely in the fold, I think he'll have plenty of competition.
John Jerry  
Archer : 3/28/2014 2:12 pm : link

Chris Snee may not be the answer at guard, but neither is John Jerry.

Be careful you may get what you wished for and it could be a lot worse than you anticipated.
John Jerry beats him out for  
Jimmy Googs : 3/28/2014 2:13 pm : link
the starting job...book it.

Having Snee as a backup sounds fine, but only if he is healthy and that should be clear once competition begins.


RE: Nepotism  
bc4life : 3/28/2014 2:16 pm : link
People claim it is an issue - why? Because he is TC's son-in-law and people feel compelled to generate opinions. I doubt it is an issue, but let people think what they want. People seem to think that TC would want his son-in-law to play longer than he should, endanger his health, tarnish both their reputations, and undermine TC's legitimacy to lead the team.

What will Snee deliver? He's already delivering - he's mentoring Pugh and Herman and I can't think of any other player I'd rather have in their ear. And, when problem child Jerry gets in the locker room - Snee will set a fine example for him.

I don't see him starting this year. High quality depth behind Scwartz and Jerry, able to come in and spell injured players when necessary. Anything beyond that will be gravy in my opinion. And, if he realizes that it isn't working out, he will probably walk away on his own before the season starts.
before writing Jerry off  
bc4life : 3/28/2014 2:19 pm : link
you may want to look at some video.

He'll be in good shape here or he won't last, he'll be focused and his head will be in the right place and under the guidance of Flaherty. If not, he'll be gone.

To say Jerry will not be a quality starter is a myth, IMO.
Heck, I'm hoping a high draft choice shows he can do  
yatqb : 3/28/2014 2:22 pm : link
a good job at LG immediately, and that Schwartz moves to RG, but only if Snee can't hack it any more.

I'm not an orthopedist, so I have no clue about whether Snee can return to competency or better. But I'm sure it wasn't nepotism that kept him on the team, just as sure as I am that if we want a running game we don't want Jerry starting on our OL.
Yeah a bit hard to call nepotism  
Motley Blue : 3/28/2014 2:30 pm : link
when Coughlin had to be talked into drafting the guy in the first place because he was worried it would look like nepotism.

RE: RE: Chris Snee is crap  
dorgan : 3/28/2014 2:32 pm : link
In comment 11592434 Randy in CT said:
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Can this POS have his account deleted?



Well done.
Whether  
AcidTest : 3/28/2014 2:42 pm : link
nepotism or not, he should have been cut based on his play the last two years. He also could end up taking a roster spot from someone who has more long term value.

He's torn the labrum in both hips, will probably need a hip replacement by his own admission, and has had serious elbow problems. What's the likelihood that he will suddenly recover enough to be even a good backup? Not enough IMO to justify keeping him.

He's been a great Giant. We don't win the SBs without him. But it's time to retire, mostly for his own good and long term health.
Acid,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/28/2014 2:49 pm : link
since the final rosters aren't set until opening day, he's jot taking a spot from anyone. There's nothing to lose in letting him see how he physically fares during pre-season; whether or not he is healed enough to competively compete. He and TC will know heading into the season whether or not he's physically fit to continue an outstanding career..
RE: Acid,  
T-Bone : 3/28/2014 2:52 pm : link
In comment 11592753 Big Blue '56 said:
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since the final rosters aren't set until opening day, he's jot taking a spot from anyone. There's nothing to lose in letting him see how he physically fares during pre-season; whether or not he is healed enough to competively compete. He and TC will know heading into the season whether or not he's physically fit to continue an outstanding career..


Agreed.
RE: RE: Acid,  
AcidTest : 3/28/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11592762 T-Bone said:
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In comment 11592753 Big Blue '56 said:


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since the final rosters aren't set until opening day, he's jot taking a spot from anyone. There's nothing to lose in letting him see how he physically fares during pre-season; whether or not he is healed enough to competively compete. He and TC will know heading into the season whether or not he's physically fit to continue an outstanding career..



Agreed.


True enough. But I think his salary, however reduced, still counts against the cap. In any event, we will know by the end of camp. As I said, he should retire for his own good.
RE: John Jerry beats him out for  
Great White Ghost : 3/28/2014 2:59 pm : link
In comment 11592652 Jimmy Googs said:
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the starting job...book it.

Having Snee as a backup sounds fine, but only if he is healthy and that should be clear once competition begins.

john jerry is total shit. Only way he beats out snee is if snee is still injured.
Jerry  
PaulN : 3/28/2014 3:26 pm : link
Was brought in just to make sure that position is well stocked, he already started in the NFL, and he should be very motivated going from Miami to the Giants, and if he outplays Snee, he is going to play. There was never a player along the OLine that was sitting the bench while there were guys out there not performing, we all screamed for people who when they got a shot did not perform, the OLine stunk, they counted on Baas and Snee and Beatty and got burned big time, this year there will be people here in case others do fail, it is not the same, now that does not guarantee anything, but it shows they are making moves they believe will help the team. Can we wait and see what happens on the field before we call Snee a bum.
RE: RE: Call it whatever you want  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2014 3:30 pm : link
In comment 11592567 kmed said:
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2. He took a massive paycut and when he was healthy, he was a pro bowl caliber player.


Even when healthy he hasn't been a pro bowl caliber player in years.
RE: RE: Chris Snee is crap  
BMac : 3/28/2014 3:37 pm : link
In comment 11592434 Randy in CT said:
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In comment 11592403 EliMcAdooEra said:


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Dude is an atrocious pass-blocker

Terrible feet and lateral quickness...any quick DT can blow by him. He's a complete turnstile.

John Jerry SHOULD start over him.

But will he? That's the question. Nepotism will be a huge factor.

Can this POS have his account deleted?


Second that emotion.
According to overthecap, one million of Snee's salary is guaranteed  
oipolloi : 3/28/2014 3:39 pm : link
"$1 million of Snee's $2 million base salary is guaranteed."

who would give a guy with his injuries any guaranteed money?

it is a total sweetheart deal

I was just curious so I looked up Boylhart's write-up on Snee in 2004  
Ira : 3/28/2014 3:40 pm : link
I probably shouldn't post the whole thing as it's a pay site, but these lines capture the essence of it -

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This kid has got Pro Bowl written all over him. He is not a finesse guard like Smiley. He will knock the snot out of the guy in front of him and then knock that snot out of the guy next to the guy in front him.


I think we should trust Snee and Coughlin on this. I don't think they'd say he's ready to play at a high level if he wasn't.
GWG - Jerry is a marginal starter at Guard  
Jimmy Googs : 3/28/2014 3:43 pm : link
but he can do the job if asked for a season.

Snee can't do that job any longer for more than a few games.

My hope is that a draft pick or Mosely takes the job and Jerry plays backup. I think it is 50/50 at best Snee even makes the roster b/c he is breaking down.
I can't wait to see Snee  
Phil from WNY : 3/28/2014 3:48 pm : link
flatten a DT in the preseason.
oipolloi  
fkap : 3/28/2014 3:55 pm : link
exactamundo.

people are acting like this is a case where you can cut him painfree if he's crap in camp. If he's cut now, you have 1 mil of additional dead money. If you keep him because it's only another mil to keep him, he's getting 2 mil for not sucking enough to get cut. 2 mil is serious ka-ching for a backup. In a dream world, he plays well, but honestly, is there evidence that he can still play well, when it's been several injuries ago since you could say that?

I doubt he gets any offers anywhere approaching that if he'd been cut.

It was a sweetheart deal.

On the flipside though, were there any better options for the same coin available in FA?
I'm rooting for a victory tour of him  
BeerFridge : 3/28/2014 4:03 pm : link
opening big holes for Jennings.
The guy said he's likely going to need a hip replacement  
Giants2012 : 3/28/2014 4:31 pm : link
yet b/c he's the veteran voice (Beatty aside), he's coming back. There is still residual from year of neglecting the OL.
I will be very surprised  
Doomster : 3/28/2014 8:32 pm : link
if Snee starts.....we don't even know, if he will make it though OTA's and camp.....hopefully he can..... but Snee's best days are definitely behind him...
I don't think it's nepotism, I think it's misplaced optimism  
jcn56 : 3/29/2014 12:43 am : link
I hope I'm wrong though. To me, it seems like the Giants think Snee can return to form, and provide a valuable veteran presence and at a bare minimum serve as a valuable reserve if he's not starting.

I thought the Giants should cut ties with Snee for the same reason as Tuck, it's just been too long since he was a consistently solid player, and it was time to give the roster spot to someone else to see if they could do better (and Tuck has outperformed Snee over that period). I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that we'll regret allocating that roster spot to Snee, even if he ends up just a backup.
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