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What position are YOU hoping in first round

Eddie From Toronto : 3/29/2014 10:35 am
So me and my buddy Mr. Smoke and Cameron last night were debating for 4 hours what position the Giants should take in the first round. Between the the 3 of us we came up with FIVE different ideas last night. Everyone was going nuts about UCONN basketball but we were the only ones in the room going on and on about football. Can it be football season already? It's going to be April in 2 days and it just won't get here quick enough!

Anyway, I heard WR, OL, TE, and DL, and someone even said QB. I know the QB is the dumbest thing I've ever heard but why not throw that in there to make me sound correct by saying earlier there were 5 positions. When my droid went off this morning and the EYEBALL option was checked YES I figured after a fun night of debating that I should check out Big Blue Interactive and ask them what their opinions are. I'm sure this has been debated on who you want to choose throughout the course of this LONG boring March month, but if you had to CHOOSE...what position and why?
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RE: RE: OT is a need  
Klaatu : 3/29/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11593952 Mike in Jersey said:
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OT is a need? We already have 2 of them. We signed 1 to a big contract a little over a year ago, and drafted the other in the first round in last year's draft.


Just because we have to pay Beatty doesn't mean we have to play him if a) he's not healthy or b) he sucks, again. Besides, and I know it's a cliché, but the draft isn't just about this year.

Even if the Giants don't go OT in round one, I think they'd like to come out of this draft with at least one O-Linemen versatile enough to play OT or OG (a Joel Bitonio, Jack Mewhort-type), or a swing-tackle type (James Hurst, Ju'Wuan James).
OL or DL  
PEEJ : 3/29/2014 11:13 am : link
fix the engine
RE: RE: OT is a need  
DonnieD89 : 3/29/2014 11:24 am : link
In comment 11593952 Mike in Jersey said:
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In comment 11593938 Buck Dharma said:


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Lewan at 12, though he'll probably be gone or Martin after a slight trade down, if possible.



OT is a need? We already have 2 of them. We signed 1 to a big contract a little over a year ago, and drafted the other in the first round in last year's draft.


OT is definitely a need. The play of Beatty was bad last year, and we have really only two legit OTs on the roster. The size of Beatty's contract should not matter when it involves protecting your #1 asset that being Eli. Beatty may bounce back, but do you want to take another chance of another bad year? I don't consider it a bad situation in drafting an OT at #12 regardless of how Beaty does this year. Adjustments can be made with the new OT, Pugh, and Beatty. In fact it could very well be a vast overall improvement in the OLine.
Klaatu  
DonnieD89 : 3/29/2014 11:29 am : link
The player that really intrigues me is Morgan Moses. Very big man with athletic ability with his size. Love his wing span. Likely a RT but could play some LT. I would not hesitate to take him at 43, if OLine is not taken at #12.
I'm sure Moses will be in the mix, too.  
Klaatu : 3/29/2014 11:33 am : link
Plenty of "hybrids" this year.
RE: Klaatu  
GmenDynasty : 3/29/2014 11:42 am : link
In comment 11593999 DonnieD89 said:
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The player that really intrigues me is Morgan Moses. Very big man with athletic ability with his size. Love his wing span. Likely a RT but could play some LT. I would not hesitate to take him at 43, if OLine is not taken at #12.


This just underscores the reason why we can go non OL the first riund and still get a real good and likely plug and play OL at 43. There are so many quality OLs this year. 43 we will almost definitely get a pro ready one and even a good shot for one (maybe slightly developmental) in rd 3.
Flawed thinking  
PaulN : 3/29/2014 11:48 am : link
I never hope for any position. Now I do hope for roles, and we have some roles that need to be filled, one role is a number 1 outside receiver, with speed and size. The second role is a big target for Eli to throw the seam pass, remember when Ballard filled that role, he was good. That is the role we need filled. In the new offense, that role may expand even, and a lot. We also need a pass rusher from the outside, and a player on the inside that can hold the point of attack and push the pocket, if he can also penetrate the pocket, better yet. We also need help along the offensive line, a center is the only position I will even name, but we need a center. We also could use a player that can run the ball, pass protect in the backfield and catch the ball on screens. That is what this team needs. You can fill in the positions, how they do it makes no difference, but if team wants to improve, that is what it needs.
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Named Later : 3/29/2014 11:48 am : link
I'm hoping against hope that Sammy Watkins somehow falls to the Giants. Maybe a few teams get QB-crazy and there's a run on the position. I'd really like that 12th pick to be high-impact. OL in the 2nd and LB/DT in the 3rd.

That'd be good for me.
te , wr, oline/dt  
eli4life : 3/29/2014 11:50 am : link
In that order
hmm...  
M.S. : 3/29/2014 12:00 pm : link

...did I mention offensive line?
OL or DL  
X : 3/29/2014 12:11 pm : link
There should be a good player at #12 available
OL  
RobCarpenter : 3/29/2014 12:18 pm : link
I really think it will end up being Lewan or Martin.
Whoever they draft  
ANGPASS : 3/29/2014 12:20 pm : link
better start week 1. thats all i know. i want a player that is going to come in a start.
Best possible player.  
arcarsenal : 3/29/2014 12:23 pm : link
I don't care what position he plays.
BPA  
Lord Zedd : 3/29/2014 12:27 pm : link
Except for QB.
Purely from a need standpoint  
SamdaGiantsFan : 3/29/2014 12:37 pm : link
I think the case is strongest for the DL. With the departure of our two best defensive linemen, Tuck and Joseph, our line is in shambles at the moment. JPP can't stay healthy and Kiwi just isn't that talented (hence the paycut). As it stands we will be counting heavily on Damontre Moore at the very least from a rotation standpoint. The DT position is a little better, with the strong showing of Hankins down the stretch. Grabbing somebody like Aaron Donald, Anthony Barr, or even Dee Ford would make me very happy.

WR-Cruz is a proven weapon, Randle and Jernigan have both shown promising flashes. The 2014 class is historically deep at this position and it would make more sense to grab one in latter rounds.

OL-With Beatty's contract, they are indebted to him and I think they still believe in him. He was undeniably terrible last year, but the year before he showed his potential and he still can make a solid pro if he gets his act together this year. The Giants will give him every opportunity to nail down that starting spot. Meanwhile, with signings of Schwartz, Walton, and Jerry, the Giants have solidified their line with Beatty, Schwartz, Walton, Snee/Jerry, and Pugh. Walton is the kid that scares me, and drafting a center would make a ton of sense. But there isn't one at 12 and the 2 yr $5 mill contract yields thought that the Gmen have high hopes for him. Some latter round depth, but I don't think it is necessary to force a Taylor Lewan or Zach Martin pick.

TE-This is the obvious position, but I don't think the Giants are done here. I think they sign a marginal FA, i.e. Ed Dickson, Dallas Clark. Even if they just re-sign Bear Pascoe, I don't think it is necessary for the Giants to force one in the first round. I am still holding out hope that Adrien Robinson can get healthy and perform, and I was actually intrigued by Larry Donnell last year. One of Donnell/Robinson should contribute, Pascoe can fill in, rather see a 3rd/4th round TE...
we need to upgrade our PUNTER  
Spock : 3/29/2014 12:43 pm : link
but not at number one (haha).

I would look hard at the best player projected to be a beast among WR, TE, OT.
RE: RE: RE: OT is a need  
Mike in Jersey : 3/29/2014 12:45 pm : link
In comment 11593990 DonnieD89 said:
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In comment 11593952 Mike in Jersey said:


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In comment 11593938 Buck Dharma said:


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Lewan at 12, though he'll probably be gone or Martin after a slight trade down, if possible.



OT is a need? We already have 2 of them. We signed 1 to a big contract a little over a year ago, and drafted the other in the first round in last year's draft.



OT is definitely a need. The play of Beatty was bad last year, and we have really only two legit OTs on the roster. The size of Beatty's contract should not matter when it involves protecting your #1 asset that being Eli. Beatty may bounce back, but do you want to take another chance of another bad year? I don't consider it a bad situation in drafting an OT at #12 regardless of how Beaty does this year. Adjustments can be made with the new OT, Pugh, and Beatty. In fact it could very well be a vast overall improvement in the OLine.


The front office giving Beatty the type of money they did shows they clearly believe in his ability to be the long term LT. One poor season, where basically anything that could go wrong, did go wrong for the entire offense isn't going to change that. If Beatty comes out and plays bad again this season, then I'm sure they'll be ready to make other plans.
OL is most important  
JoeCabbie : 3/29/2014 12:59 pm : link
Beatty has 2 question marks, one he's only had one good year, and two a broken bone that requires surgery is not minor he may not be back in time. Except for Pugh everyone has a question mark. It doesn't matter who the receivers or RB are if your ol can't block.
I really don't care...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 3/29/2014 1:00 pm : link
I just want to get a solid stater (in a position of significant need) that we can rely on for the next few years.

I think Pugh will be good. However, the prior year's first rounders (Wilson & Prince) not so much. Not that they will not or cannot be excellent players. However, they are not playing like first rounders right now. I would look at them as nice picks for later rounds but POTENTIALLY could end up as first round busts. We simply need to get more production out of our first rounders.
I'm hoping for the position  
81_Great_Dane : 3/29/2014 1:02 pm : link
where the Giants get a Hall of Famer.

Seriously, about 7 players a year get into the Hall of Fame. That means that roughly 7 Hall of Famers a year come into the league. I want the Giants to snag some of those guys. It's been a while.
Mike  
shocktheworld : 3/29/2014 1:03 pm : link
So you'd rather react than be proactive? Beatty doesn't come back, or maybe is re injured or Pugh gets hurt, who is playing tackle for us? Brewer? Lewan should 1000% be the pick if he's there. Players like him aren't going to be available to us very often. Problem is, he might not last to #12, then we have to look at a trade down and get Martin or Moses
BPA  
Dragon : 3/29/2014 1:14 pm : link
Gilbert or Barr now if both of these guys are gone then we could be in real trouble over drafting and not getting someone more suited to our team needs. There are too many WR's, OL's, TE's and DL in this draft into the third round with similar skills.
Zack Martin...  
blue42 : 3/29/2014 1:38 pm : link
by all reports has great feet and can play four positions on the OL.
That's vslue and tslent,
Donald….  
Ed A. : 3/29/2014 2:20 pm : link
the giants are pitifully thin at DT and DE. Would love it if they picked Donald at 12. Already helped the OL in free Agency and can still get a good one in the second or third round.
OT  
PatersonPlank : 3/29/2014 3:16 pm : link
Then a G or C in rds 2-4. If Eli is on his back, or if the running game doesn't work again so the D knows we have to throw, it won't matter what else we have on offense.
RE: Mike  
Mike in Jersey : 3/29/2014 3:31 pm : link
In comment 11594167 shocktheworld said:
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So you'd rather react than be proactive? Beatty doesn't come back, or maybe is re injured or Pugh gets hurt, who is playing tackle for us? Brewer? Lewan should 1000% be the pick if he's there. Players like him aren't going to be available to us very often. Problem is, he might not last to #12, then we have to look at a trade down and get Martin or Moses


With the money that was spent in free agency so far this offseason, its clear that this team is in win now mode. They have starters in place at both tackle spots. They can add depth later in the draft, and wait and see what veterans become available to be a swing guy later in the offseason. You don't use a first round pick on a position where you already have 2 starters when there are other areas that can use the help this season.

There are still holes to address at TE, WR, and in the DT rotation. You fix those problems, and have faith in your assessment of Beatty that led to using a premium draft choice on him, and then recommitting to that player by giving him a big contract. Clearly the front office has felt very highly of him for a while now, and one rough season shouldn't change that.
PP  
shocktheworld : 3/29/2014 3:31 pm : link
Nails it. Without substantial OL improvement, nothing is gonna work on offense. Specifically with our cement shoes QB :)
RE: Purely from a need standpoint  
Eddie From Toronto : 3/29/2014 4:03 pm : link
In comment 11594116 SamdaGiantsFan said:
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I think the case is strongest for the DL. With the departure of our two best defensive linemen, Tuck and Joseph, our line is in shambles at the moment. JPP can't stay healthy and Kiwi just isn't that talented (hence the paycut). As it stands we will be counting heavily on Damontre Moore at the very least from a rotation standpoint. The DT position is a little better, with the strong showing of Hankins down the stretch. Grabbing somebody like Aaron Donald, Anthony Barr, or even Dee Ford would make me very happy.

WR-Cruz is a proven weapon, Randle and Jernigan have both shown promising flashes. The 2014 class is historically deep at this position and it would make more sense to grab one in latter rounds.

OL-With Beatty's contract, they are indebted to him and I think they still believe in him. He was undeniably terrible last year, but the year before he showed his potential and he still can make a solid pro if he gets his act together this year. The Giants will give him every opportunity to nail down that starting spot. Meanwhile, with signings of Schwartz, Walton, and Jerry, the Giants have solidified their line with Beatty, Schwartz, Walton, Snee/Jerry, and Pugh. Walton is the kid that scares me, and drafting a center would make a ton of sense. But there isn't one at 12 and the 2 yr $5 mill contract yields thought that the Gmen have high hopes for him. Some latter round depth, but I don't think it is necessary to force a Taylor Lewan or Zach Martin pick.

TE-This is the obvious position, but I don't think the Giants are done here. I think they sign a marginal FA, i.e. Ed Dickson, Dallas Clark. Even if they just re-sign Bear Pascoe, I don't think it is necessary for the Giants to force one in the first round. I am still holding out hope that Adrien Robinson can get healthy and perform, and I was actually intrigued by Larry Donnell last year. One of Donnell/Robinson should contribute, Pascoe can fill in, rather see a 3rd/4th round TE...


Very good answer. Thank you for your reply. Solid answer.
OL is the most obvious need  
KP : 3/29/2014 4:07 pm : link
I'm still not comfortable even with the additions. Zack Martin makes perfect sense, the guy can play 4 positions on the line and is rock solid. When you have a QB who can't move, that's the most obvious need in my eyes.
OL  
The_Taxman : 3/29/2014 4:14 pm : link
I think OL is a must in the 1st round. I think a pass rushing DE is more of a need but there isn't one worth drafting in the top 20, never mind top 12. I think one of either Lewan or Martin will definitely be available at 12 and I don't think we can afford to pass that up. There is a slim chance Matthews could fall and if that happens there's no way in hell we could pass on him.

So I think OL is the way to go. Of course my preference is Matthews but it's too slim of a chance he's there so I'd prefer Martin for his versatility.
RE: OL  
GmenDynasty : 3/29/2014 4:17 pm : link
In comment 11594431 The_Taxman said:
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I think OL is a must in the 1st round. I think a pass rushing DE is more of a need but there isn't one worth drafting in the top 20, never mind top 12. I think one of either Lewan or Martin will definitely be available at 12 and I don't think we can afford to pass that up. There is a slim chance Matthews could fall and if that happens there's no way in hell we could pass on him.

So I think OL is the way to go. Of course my preference is Matthews but it's too slim of a chance he's there so I'd prefer Martin for his versatility.


Why a must? We can get an awfully good pro ready one at 43
RE: RE: OL  
The_Taxman : 3/29/2014 4:23 pm : link
In comment 11594437 GmenDynasty said:
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In comment 11594431 The_Taxman said:


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I think OL is a must in the 1st round. I think a pass rushing DE is more of a need but there isn't one worth drafting in the top 20, never mind top 12. I think one of either Lewan or Martin will definitely be available at 12 and I don't think we can afford to pass that up. There is a slim chance Matthews could fall and if that happens there's no way in hell we could pass on him.

So I think OL is the way to go. Of course my preference is Matthews but it's too slim of a chance he's there so I'd prefer Martin for his versatility.



Why a must? We can get an awfully good pro ready one at 43


It's a must because our franchise QB has zero mobility and if we don't keep him upright, this brand spanking new offense that McAdoo is bringing in won't mean shit. What good is drafting a blue chip WR or TE when we can't keep our QB upright to be able to throw it to them? An OL you get at 43(Bitonio for example) are good players but they are a notch below guys like Martin, Lewan, and Matthews. Those 3 are day one starters. The same can't be said for Bitonio or any other OL you get in the 2nd through 4th.
Don't care as long  
Phil in LA : 3/29/2014 4:27 pm : link
as 2 of the first three picks are OL.
The Giants never get a shot at one of the top OT's so if by some  
wgenesis123 : 3/29/2014 4:43 pm : link
miracle one is still there at 12 I believe you have to take him for the future more than for this year. Unless you plan on drafting in the top ten every year this oppurtunity can not be passed on. Since I am sold on the upside that comes with Donald and cornerback has been addressed in free agency and I expect Clowney to be long gone by 12 I say DT take Donald.
Cluster drafting focused on the trenches  
mamamia : 3/29/2014 5:20 pm : link
OL DL OL DL period
draft and UDFA's  
alligatorpie : 3/29/2014 6:12 pm : link
3 offensive linesmen

3 true defensive ends (including a DT/DE tweener or a 3/4 DE...NOT the lb...the 'inside' or true DE)

3 tight ends, varied - 2 traditional

1 good, smart, zone savvy possession WR
BPA  
JonC : 3/29/2014 6:14 pm : link
and hopefully it's a playmaker, those tend to come from the top. I'd wager we go OL in the 2nd or 3rd if a target is sitting there.
BPA answers  
Eddie From Toronto : 3/29/2014 6:16 pm : link
= snore

Ok, cool. But why not just say what position you prefer. Just have fun, live a little and answer the question. K?
RE: RE: RE: OL  
GmenDynasty : 3/29/2014 6:20 pm : link
In comment 11594448 The_Taxman said:
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In comment 11594437 GmenDynasty said:


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In comment 11594431 The_Taxman said:


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I think OL is a must in the 1st round. I think a pass rushing DE is more of a need but there isn't one worth drafting in the top 20, never mind top 12. I think one of either Lewan or Martin will definitely be available at 12 and I don't think we can afford to pass that up. There is a slim chance Matthews could fall and if that happens there's no way in hell we could pass on him.

So I think OL is the way to go. Of course my preference is Matthews but it's too slim of a chance he's there so I'd prefer Martin for his versatility.



Why a must? We can get an awfully good pro ready one at 43



It's a must because our franchise QB has zero mobility and if we don't keep him upright, this brand spanking new offense that McAdoo is bringing in won't mean shit. What good is drafting a blue chip WR or TE when we can't keep our QB upright to be able to throw it to them? An OL you get at 43(Bitonio for example) are good players but they are a notch below guys like Martin, Lewan, and Matthews. Those 3 are day one starters. The same can't be said for Bitonio or any other OL you get in the 2nd through 4th.


The OL slated to go in the second are considered very high end prospects. Many are considered pro ready. We can wait until 43 to get an OL.
What position you prefer without context  
JonC : 3/29/2014 6:27 pm : link
doesn't achieve much in a discussion.

I'd prefer DE, CB, or WR ... DE appears unlikely, CBs and WRs will probably be gone.
Yeah, we get that  
Eddie From Toronto : 3/29/2014 6:31 pm : link
I understand why people said BPA, but eh. Some of the better answers came from people that did choose the positions and gave an explanation. The people that said BPA are barely a notch above not answering the question at all. If you think an OL would be more important than a WR or DT I think you can configure some reasons on why you belief so.

Sorry, just bored watching my buddy Cunningham play the "South Park: Stick of Truth" game and its been RAINING all day.
DT/DE  
billdegs : 3/29/2014 7:22 pm : link
Please take Aaron Donald.
I'm hoping  
CapeGman : 3/29/2014 7:25 pm : link
for OT.
Offensive Line  
ChathamMark : 3/29/2014 8:14 pm : link
We can't run, or have Eli throwing from being on his back otherwise. Of course, I defer to the experts. If someone better is clearly higher on the board, you take them. Then go offensive line in the 2nd round...
Pass rusher in round 1  
ForzaNapoli NYG : 3/29/2014 10:33 pm : link
1st: Aaron Donald DT
2nd: Troy Niklas TE
3rd: JaWuan James OT
4th: Brandon Coleman WR
5th: Tyler Larsen C
5th: Aaron Lynch DE
6th: Storm Johnson RB

I go Donald first because i feel he is an outstanding and unique talent and it doesn't seem like we'll get an equally talented pass rusher in the later rounds whereas as many have noted OL WR and TE are pretty deep this year.

We get…. one of the best pass rushing D-line men in the draft, a monster TE that can block and catch, two young guys to groom and contribute on the O-line, a tall gifted WR, a physical specimen but gamble at DE, and a potential RB contributor
Richie Cunningham  
bigbluehoya : 3/29/2014 10:44 pm : link
and his wife.....OH-prah
Pass rusher in round 1  
TD : 3/29/2014 11:29 pm : link
WR in round 2

OT/OG in round 3

OG/OC in round 4

TE in round 5

TE/RB in round 5

RB/LB in round 6
RE: Pass rusher in round 1  
GmenDynasty : 3/30/2014 12:13 am : link
In comment 11595015 TD said:
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WR in round 2

OT/OG in round 3

OG/OC in round 4

TE in round 5

TE/RB in round 5

RB/LB in round 6


That may not be far off at all.

Depending on how some things play out but Im thinking OL in the second then WR-TE in the 3rd is a slightly higher percentage.
RE: Richie Cunningham  
Eddie From Toronto : 3/30/2014 12:02 pm : link
In comment 11594939 bigbluehoya said:
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and his wife.....OH-prah


Lol !! Not that Cunningham. This guy is such a loser and apparently he's my best friend. Always whines about not being able to get along with his co-workers, but he is MR. Fix it.
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