Giants want to run the football year this year.... i dont think they draft a TE at all, give Robinson and Donenll a chance and at least have Fells and Davis as veteran backups.
Started one full year and 10 games over the previous two years. Big target that is a hand catcher. Long arms. Has the speed to split a cover two secondary. Can get down the field with no hold up. In the Senior Bowl practices, he looked very good or very average. Impressive tools to play on Sunday if he plays more consistently. Caught 32 passes his senior year, averaging 16 yards a catch. He had six touchdowns. A good athlete that can adjust to poorly thrown passes. Good timing on routes and catches. Gives effort to block but needs more upper and lower body strength. Lacks explosion and aggressiveness. Screen type blocker that will tie up defender. Not as flexible to adjust to speed as you would like. Lacks the short area quick twitch on underneath routes. Straight line speed with very little run after catch yards. Physically looks like a first round pick. Has talent and tools to be a Pro Bowler, but question whether he will pay the price to be a star. Also played defensive end at times in 2007
He's a fifth rounder who has had a nice NFL career...how the hell is he a bust?
I corrected myself, but yes, he hasn't played as well as many thought he would. He was an absolute beast at Michigan State, but he does have (or at least had) work ethic issues and I believe he was arrested as well.
Giants signed TE Kellen Davis, formerly of the Seahawks, to a one-year contract.
Davis, 28, played 172 offensive snaps for Seattle last season and caught all three of his targets for 32 yards and one touchdown. After the Bears tried and failed miserably by attempting to make Davis a pass-catching tight end, he found a role as a blocker with the Seahawks. He'll do the same with the Giants Link - ( New Window )
if Ebron is there at #12, he may still be that guy. They still need that guy to come in and be a threat at the TE position, especially if McAdoo utilizes the TE as they did in Green Bay. Davis is nothing more then competition for Robinson, IMO. He'll be nothing more than a blocker, a #2 TE and an after-thought in the passing game.
lol - headline from the Seahawks' website when they signed Davis
That's the question for me. I'm convinced that the Giants are trying to re-establish a consistent running game which will help the passing game especially the long game. With no running game last year, the pass blocking was exposed and Eli paid the price. I think the big dropoff from Bennett to Myers was not pass receiving; it was blocking for then run. Plus, Myers weakness at pass blocking hurt Beatty's performance. I'm assuming they haven't given up on Robinson but if Davis can block like Boss or Ballard, then we're set up to draft a TE who can get downfield and create mismatches.
was a thread here yesterday with a link to a website (not a great one, no offense) stating things like we needed a RB and FS. But anyhow, the one useful thing in there was they had snapshot breakdowns of plays, and the one I saw in particular was a great counter play and cut by Wilson where Bear completely loses his block. If that were sealed it may have been a TD. Little things like that a guy like this can do effectively.
One TE for Blocking and another TE for catching passes. That would be just dumb! They'd know pass or run by what TE we put in the game. JR ain't that dumb.
Zach Miller and Luke Willson had terrific seasons. They did their jobs as blockers and receivers when called upon. Kellen Davis filled in when the team erred in letting Sean McGrath go, and did a fine job as a third tight end.
Kellen Davis
There will be no rush to sign Davis, but he is a fine safety net if the team does not find a younger, cheaper option elsewhere. Blocking is key for the third tight end.
"Two players: Allen Bradford and Sean McGrath had strong training camps. Only one made the week one roster before being waived, but there is reason to believe both should still be here. In fact, the decision to leave one of them off the week one roster almost certainly cost the other his job in Seattle.
McGrath was a solid, if not spectacular, tight end that was undrafted last season and was promoted from the practice squad late in the year. He battled with rookie Luke Willson for time as the second tight end during camp, but they had different strengths. Willson was the more gifted receiver and McGrath was a more gifted blocker. Seattle quietly had a strong trio of well-rounded tight ends that could be mixed and matched based on match-up and situation.
Late in the pre-season, the Seahawks started to experiment with tackle Mike Person as a blocking tight end. They thought they saw enough in the final two weeks to take a risk that would allow them to keep a player in Person who could swing to tackle so they would have depth at multiple spots. That decision led to the surprise cut of McGrath out of camp.
It took all of one week for the Seahawks to realize they had made a mistake. An injury to one of their tight ends in the season opener left them unable to run the plays they wanted because Person was not really a third tight end. He was a tackle that could come in as an extra blocker. McGrath had been claimed right away by the Kansas City Chiefs, so the front office scrambled to find a third tight end.
They landed on veteran Kellen Davis. Davis is two years older than McGrath and makes about $300K more money. The team was still attached to Person, so instead of cutting their losses, they compounded the problem by trimming elsewhere on the roster: Bradford. The Giants were quick to scoop up the talented linebacker off of waivers." http://blog.seattlepi.com/hawkblogger/2013/12/14/injuries-highlight-some-rare-seahawks-personnel-missteps/
a blocking TE. And no, this has no bearing on what we will do in the draft. Just as the signings of Jerry, Manningham, Patterson, and Brown won't either. These are second tier FAs trying to resurrect their careers. You sign a bunch, and hope that one or two end up on the 53.
Faster than Donnell (4.6 compared to 4.79 40 time) and
Clearly Reese could not afford to stand pat on our current TE group. He is an improvement. He is a known quantity and will not make foolish mistakes even if he will not be making game-winning plays. If he can do his job without screwing up, he will help the team.
Think that they want to keep Eli upright this season?
Except if Brown, Jerry, Walton, and Davis are all key in keeping Eli upright and the offense going, 2014 is going to likely be as ugly [offensively] as 2013 was.
Not quite as good a blocker.He playing about as long as pascoe, but with less game experience.Wasn't his teams' primary blocking TE like Pascoe was, I see him as a small improvement.
Giants have strengthened the core of the team and built depth, as they prepare to select BPA in the draft. This gives them the necessary (in their minds) flexibility to choose BPA at any position, although that usually means BPA at a position of need.
It's a very safe FA strategy because you don't get any big hits or misses. Polar opposite to Washington, for example.
This actually makes their early picks in the draft a lot more unpredictable, and makes the draft a lot more fun to watch.
Saw Pascoe as a "good blocker" more like he would just get in the defenders way and try with all his might to hold him off for as long as he could. Not very good though.
about Charles Brown and Robert Ayers: A sigh of relief that we don't have to enter the draft or camp expecting a rookie, or unproven player, or former failure man a key position.
he doesn't solve anything but he's a legitimate NFL TE. makes me feel much more comfortable about the competition for the #2 and #3 TE spot on the roster.
years back...but he never fulfilled even half of his potential. Developed in to a batter blocker than I thought he would. Limited upside but probably the best NYG has a TE right now.
Didn't the Giants try to sign Davis as an FA 2-3 years
He is cheap depth and will compete to start. It means the Giants aren't forced to reach for a Tight End or expect production from a draft pick. The depth chart right now would be IMO:
1. Davis
2. Fells
3. Donnell
4. Robinson
If they add a draft pick that should be sufficient competition for training camp.
Sy wasn't the question about Davis always his desire
are two completely different animals. If the Giants wanted to sign a receiving TE on the wrong side of 30 who is coming off a broken leg and only played 5 games last season, they would have signed Owen Daniels. In Davis, the Giants are signing a blocking TE. A bigger, younger, healthier, more physical, cheaper, 28 year old blocking TE. Reese is not signing him to transform him into a major receiving threat. He's being signed primarily to do what he does best. Block. That is not to say that they won't throw it to him at all. He does have 12 TDs in his six NFL seasons. He's a taller, better version of Bear Pascoe (who has 1 career TD, by the way).
I'd still like to see them sign Dickson and then draft a guy in one of the first three rounds. And hopefully that guy has #1 potential. I doubt they go after Dickson or anyone else though after this signing since they have Robinson.
and Davis does not even make the roster. That would be no great loss, but the Giants can't count on that because Donnell and Robinson lack game experience.
Davis is a known quantity with a one year deal. If, God forbid, they all stink, then the Giants can start over in 2015 with a new group of TEs without too much (any?) cap damage.
half the people complain when we don't sign anyone and the other half complains when we do ! Can't wait for the yearly meltdown during the draft. Pure entertainment gold!
Davis was a back-up/blocking TE on the Superbowl champions
Davis has a good reputation when it comes to offseason work ethic. But on gameday...his approach as a blocker leaves some to be desired. But by no means does he look like a guy that dogs it.
Davis lost his job in Chicago when the Bears signed Martellus Bennett
No big disgrace there. Davis is a complementary player, and a decent insurance policy. He's likely to make the final roster, unless Robinson, Donnell and a rookie all look good in preseason. If none of the other options impress, he can hold the fort as a starter without doing much harm - same as in Chicago. I don't think he did a bad job for Martz or Tice under Lovie. He just wasn't a primary target. Clearly, Trestman and Kromer wanted more production from the TE position. They paid up to get it from Bennett.
This is probably a MSB type deal. The cap # is probably $635K, and the cash # is probably $795K ($730 base + $65K signing bonus). In this instance, it would only cost the Giants $53,526 in cap space (the result of $635,000 - $581,474).
I've got the Giants listed as being $4,609,903 under the cap now.
half the people complain when we don't sign anyone and the other half complains when we do ! Can't wait for the yearly meltdown during the draft. Pure entertainment gold!
Owen Daniels was sitting there for weeks...unless the Giants draft a TE, we got nobody
Thought he had some upside and knew he was a really solid blocker so I'm totally on board with this. Now we have to add a guy who has hands and can be a receiving threat. Very real chance we take Ebron but something tells me we're going to be looking to sign Finley... even though he doesn't quite fit under the category of "good hands"
To there is that, but he's not someone that you'd want starting. It's why the Bears were so comfortable paying Bennett. He's simply not got the hands to be an offensive option. It's like someone surgically replaced real hands for Will Allen hands.
Yeh, we're replacing them with a bunch of #3 black gimpy TEs.
I laugh at how people are excited over this signing. He's a marginally better version of Bear Pascoe. Our TE group right now is pretty bad. We still need to draft a TE early. I'm not for Ebron in round 1. I'd rather draft an OL or even Donald. But in round 2 or 3, one of either Niklas, Amaro, or Fiederowicz is a must.
Yeh, we're replacing them with a bunch of #3 black gimpy TEs.
I laugh at how people are excited over this signing. He's a marginally better version of Bear Pascoe. Our TE group right now is pretty bad. We still need to draft a TE early. I'm not for Ebron in round 1. I'd rather draft an OL or even Donald. But in round 2 or 3, one of either Niklas, Amaro, or Fiederowicz is a must.
Bear Pascoe is garbage and IMO only ever had a spot on the Giants because he provided depth at FB/TE, knew the playbook, and was a Coughlin guy. Davis can at least block, started on other teams, and has athletic attributes. Pascoe was bad at everything, but knew where to line up to get steam rolled. I would be surprised if any team invites Pascoe to camp in the NFL.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
He's a body. We need bodies, in case you haven't noticed.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
This^^^^^
Davis is a #3 TE, at best. Temper your expectations. If we had an above average TE group, Davis wouldn't even have a chance to make the team. Right now we have an athlete who's also a gimp, an UDFA, and a #4 fading vet in Fells along with Davis. A very uninspiring group to say the least.
3 guys that could be fighting for 1 spot on the team, remember, another way we could go is to use a blocking tight end, and on passing downs we can use 2 slot wide outs and 2 wide outs that play outside. If Jernigan is what he flashed, there is no way that he is sitting, and unless they plan to use Cruz outside, this makes all the sense in the world, plus it allows the team to again, pick the best receiver in the draft whether they are a tight end or wide receiver.
Plus I heard it speculated already that we may go with a double slot instead of even a pass catching tight end, and that just makes a whole lot of sense to me. We already have 2 good blocking fullbacks, and now we have a good blocking tight end. With Jennings here, plus the huge offensive linemen we have added, I think it is pretty clear that Tom wants a return to the power running game that he loved with the Jags.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
The Bears expected him and Greg Olsen to be what Hernandez and Gronk were to the Patriots (but the Bears were first). Turns out both ended up getting run out of Chicago eventually
I love it. The giants are bringing in good quality players from successful programs. They are changing attitudes and cultures by building a roster of players that know what it takes to win.
In comment 11605164 Anakim said:
The Bears expected him and Greg Olsen to be what Hernandez and Gronk were to the Patriots (but the Bears were first). Turns out both ended up getting run out of Chicago eventually [/quote]Olsen is still a very quality TE. Bears missed him.
Boylhart's profile from 2008 (from the free archive)....
STRENGTHS
Kellen looks the part in every way. He has the size, strength and athleticism to be the best TE in this draft. He has good hands and is a workout warrior plus. Kellen looks like there is no way that he could pass a mirror without stopping to gaze upon his body. He has good balance, strength and knows the correct techniques to block whenever he wants to. Kellen has first round talent and there is no doubt in my mind that he will show up for the combine and Senior Bowl and fool a lot of coaches into thinking that they can change this kid and make him into a productive player. My answer to that is: fuhgeddaboutit!
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
This kid makes me sick! He is lazy on the field, immature off, and on, the field and in general is just a spoiled lazy wuss. He has more talent to play at the NFL level than most of the NFL Tight Ends have right now. He could really be something and he is throwing it all away. Maybe not being drafted will shock him, but I doubt it.
TALENT BOARD ROUND 2
I would let someone else fall into the trap of drafting this kid and wait until he grows up. He is just not worth dealing with and going through the garbage. He is so lazy when he runs his routes and I blame the Michigan St staff for enabling this kid and playing him when they knew full well that he was dogging it and playing only when he wanted to play. They are just as much at fault for this kids behavior as this kid is. First round talent attached to a brain that will land him in big trouble before it is all said and done.
The obsession with "blocking TE's". They no longer need to be just another OL. Adequate blking skills are enough, imo.
I guess one could ask the opposite. What is the love affair with receiving TEs? I mean teams have been trying to emulate the Pats and Saints the last few seasons. Only to discover that the QBs on those teams may have been the real differences.
and into the air; not only does Davis get knocked on his ass by a Safety, but then Davis rolls into and tackles his own running back, who had just made a great play to catch the deflected pass. But Davis' "tackle" was too late to prevent his own team from scoring, because the running back was already at the goal line and fell in for the TD.
Much like Marty B before we signed him, has been playing behind some great TEs. I have seen him make some really nice plays and show some great athleticism. Sucks that he had to play behind Greg Olson. Then out of 172 snaps in SEA he was only targeted 3 times and caught all three with 1 going for a TD. People label him a bust, but he is a hell of a player and if he gets a chance he will provide a nice safety valve for Eli and a huge EZ target. This guy is huge and will truck LBs trying to cover him. I'm SUPED we got him.
Well, he's a fifth-rounder so I guess he's not really a bust. I just remember how high he was thought of out of Michigan State
NFL Profile - ( New Window )
He's August competition.
Started one full year and 10 games over the previous two years. Big target that is a hand catcher. Long arms. Has the speed to split a cover two secondary. Can get down the field with no hold up. In the Senior Bowl practices, he looked very good or very average. Impressive tools to play on Sunday if he plays more consistently. Caught 32 passes his senior year, averaging 16 yards a catch. He had six touchdowns. A good athlete that can adjust to poorly thrown passes. Good timing on routes and catches. Gives effort to block but needs more upper and lower body strength. Lacks explosion and aggressiveness. Screen type blocker that will tie up defender. Not as flexible to adjust to speed as you would like. Lacks the short area quick twitch on underneath routes. Straight line speed with very little run after catch yards. Physically looks like a first round pick. Has talent and tools to be a Pro Bowler, but question whether he will pay the price to be a star. Also played defensive end at times in 2007
I corrected myself, but yes, he hasn't played as well as many thought he would. He was an absolute beast at Michigan State, but he does have (or at least had) work ethic issues and I believe he was arrested as well.
NOOOO!!!
Davis, 28, played 172 offensive snaps for Seattle last season and caught all three of his targets for 32 yards and one touchdown. After the Bears tried and failed miserably by attempting to make Davis a pass-catching tight end, he found a role as a blocker with the Seahawks. He'll do the same with the Giants
Link - ( New Window )
He's August competition.
He is still better than every TE we have
Not the same Josh Freeman. Kellen Davis's brother was a Michigan St. defensive lineman who graduated in 1995.
"Seahawks sign Kellen Davis; fantasy owners yawn"
......He had one TD
Still hope we do NOT go TE in round 1 or 2.
Didn't block
Ran the wrong routes
Didnt catch the ball when they did throw to him
I'll take Robinson or Donnell right now over this guy
They simply can't be as bad...
I actually think this signing makes an Ebron pick at 12 more likely. But I still don't think it's likely.
Kellen Davis
There will be no rush to sign Davis, but he is a fine safety net if the team does not find a younger, cheaper option elsewhere. Blocking is key for the third tight end.
http://blog.seattlepi.com/hawkblogger/2014/02/20/2014-seahawks-off-season-analysis-part-ii-wide-receivers-tight-ends/
Davis Bradford Connection
"Two players: Allen Bradford and Sean McGrath had strong training camps. Only one made the week one roster before being waived, but there is reason to believe both should still be here. In fact, the decision to leave one of them off the week one roster almost certainly cost the other his job in Seattle.
McGrath was a solid, if not spectacular, tight end that was undrafted last season and was promoted from the practice squad late in the year. He battled with rookie Luke Willson for time as the second tight end during camp, but they had different strengths. Willson was the more gifted receiver and McGrath was a more gifted blocker. Seattle quietly had a strong trio of well-rounded tight ends that could be mixed and matched based on match-up and situation.
Late in the pre-season, the Seahawks started to experiment with tackle Mike Person as a blocking tight end. They thought they saw enough in the final two weeks to take a risk that would allow them to keep a player in Person who could swing to tackle so they would have depth at multiple spots. That decision led to the surprise cut of McGrath out of camp.
It took all of one week for the Seahawks to realize they had made a mistake. An injury to one of their tight ends in the season opener left them unable to run the plays they wanted because Person was not really a third tight end. He was a tackle that could come in as an extra blocker. McGrath had been claimed right away by the Kansas City Chiefs, so the front office scrambled to find a third tight end.
They landed on veteran Kellen Davis. Davis is two years older than McGrath and makes about $300K more money. The team was still attached to Person, so instead of cutting their losses, they compounded the problem by trimming elsewhere on the roster: Bradford. The Giants were quick to scoop up the talented linebacker off of waivers."
http://blog.seattlepi.com/hawkblogger/2013/12/14/injuries-highlight-some-rare-seahawks-personnel-missteps/
Clearly Reese could not afford to stand pat on our current TE group. He is an improvement. He is a known quantity and will not make foolish mistakes even if he will not be making game-winning plays. If he can do his job without screwing up, he will help the team.
Except if Brown, Jerry, Walton, and Davis are all key in keeping Eli upright and the offense going, 2014 is going to likely be as ugly [offensively] as 2013 was.
They sign THIS guy when Daniels is out there????
Giants are mentally handicapped when it comes to TE's.
I would have said that about LB'er too before the last few weeks....and maybe I still will after all is said and done
It's a very safe FA strategy because you don't get any big hits or misses. Polar opposite to Washington, for example.
This actually makes their early picks in the draft a lot more unpredictable, and makes the draft a lot more fun to watch.
Can't wait.
They sign THIS guy when Daniels is out there????
Giants are mentally handicapped when it comes to TE's.
I would have said that about LB'er too before the last few weeks....and maybe I still will after all is said and done
Daniels was signed by Baltimore.
still need a #1 TE though
Campcomp.
90 man roster fill.
1. Davis
2. Fells
3. Donnell
4. Robinson
If they add a draft pick that should be sufficient competition for training camp.
More importantly, they the need to fix whatever it was that caused the whiffs.
and a bunch of people will say what a great signing it is especially if the money is right.
If this guy makes to September I'll be shocked.
Davis is a known quantity with a one year deal. If, God forbid, they all stink, then the Giants can start over in 2015 with a new group of TEs without too much (any?) cap damage.
Quote:
Also played defensive end at times in 2007
you can never have enough pass rushers...
I've got the Giants listed as being $4,609,903 under the cap now.
Owen Daniels was sitting there for weeks...unless the Giants draft a TE, we got nobody
Can't or won't catch
Doesn't block
But he does look good in a football uniform so there's that
What's the appeal there?
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
Yeh, we're replacing them with a bunch of #3 black gimpy TEs.
I laugh at how people are excited over this signing. He's a marginally better version of Bear Pascoe. Our TE group right now is pretty bad. We still need to draft a TE early. I'm not for Ebron in round 1. I'd rather draft an OL or even Donald. But in round 2 or 3, one of either Niklas, Amaro, or Fiederowicz is a must.
Quote:
slow, un-athletic, white TEs?
Yeh, we're replacing them with a bunch of #3 black gimpy TEs.
I laugh at how people are excited over this signing. He's a marginally better version of Bear Pascoe. Our TE group right now is pretty bad. We still need to draft a TE early. I'm not for Ebron in round 1. I'd rather draft an OL or even Donald. But in round 2 or 3, one of either Niklas, Amaro, or Fiederowicz is a must.
Bear Pascoe is garbage and IMO only ever had a spot on the Giants because he provided depth at FB/TE, knew the playbook, and was a Coughlin guy. Davis can at least block, started on other teams, and has athletic attributes. Pascoe was bad at everything, but knew where to line up to get steam rolled. I would be surprised if any team invites Pascoe to camp in the NFL.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
Quote:
He was a 5th rounder and he started in the NFL.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
This^^^^^
Davis is a #3 TE, at best. Temper your expectations. If we had an above average TE group, Davis wouldn't even have a chance to make the team. Right now we have an athlete who's also a gimp, an UDFA, and a #4 fading vet in Fells along with Davis. A very uninspiring group to say the least.
Plus I heard it speculated already that we may go with a double slot instead of even a pass catching tight end, and that just makes a whole lot of sense to me. We already have 2 good blocking fullbacks, and now we have a good blocking tight end. With Jennings here, plus the huge offensive linemen we have added, I think it is pretty clear that Tom wants a return to the power running game that he loved with the Jags.
yea ..they'll get kill as did those guys over the middle.
Quote:
He was a 5th rounder and he started in the NFL.
He started in CHI when they had Martz. That guy refuses to use his TEs which was the main reason for low production.
He's very athletic. He can help us next year. It's an upgrade over Myers/Pascoe.
To be completely fair, he started in chicago, but chicago during those years was either offensively inept other than Forte, or the offensive line was horrifically bad. He is athletic, but can't catch. Myers is a significantly better receiver.
The Bears expected him and Greg Olsen to be what Hernandez and Gronk were to the Patriots (but the Bears were first). Turns out both ended up getting run out of Chicago eventually
The Bears expected him and Greg Olsen to be what Hernandez and Gronk were to the Patriots (but the Bears were first). Turns out both ended up getting run out of Chicago eventually [/quote]Olsen is still a very quality TE. Bears missed him.
Kellen looks the part in every way. He has the size, strength and athleticism to be the best TE in this draft. He has good hands and is a workout warrior plus. Kellen looks like there is no way that he could pass a mirror without stopping to gaze upon his body. He has good balance, strength and knows the correct techniques to block whenever he wants to. Kellen has first round talent and there is no doubt in my mind that he will show up for the combine and Senior Bowl and fool a lot of coaches into thinking that they can change this kid and make him into a productive player. My answer to that is: fuhgeddaboutit!
NEEDS TO IMPROVE
This kid makes me sick! He is lazy on the field, immature off, and on, the field and in general is just a spoiled lazy wuss. He has more talent to play at the NFL level than most of the NFL Tight Ends have right now. He could really be something and he is throwing it all away. Maybe not being drafted will shock him, but I doubt it.
TALENT BOARD ROUND 2
I would let someone else fall into the trap of drafting this kid and wait until he grows up. He is just not worth dealing with and going through the garbage. He is so lazy when he runs his routes and I blame the Michigan St staff for enabling this kid and playing him when they knew full well that he was dogging it and playing only when he wanted to play. They are just as much at fault for this kids behavior as this kid is. First round talent attached to a brain that will land him in big trouble before it is all said and done.
I guess one could ask the opposite. What is the love affair with receiving TEs? I mean teams have been trying to emulate the Pats and Saints the last few seasons. Only to discover that the QBs on those teams may have been the real differences.
Arrested for assault and a poor work ethic
Haha, wow.
Martellus Bennett was a slow, unathletic white TE?
Think when it's all said and done,Jerry's gonna end up in the tub.
and a bunch of people will say what a great signing it is especially if the money is right.
If this guy makes to September I'll be shocked.
i think that peice of plywood will fill one of our holes
and if he is a piece of plywood i think he may fill one of our holes
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adios, dickfingers.
Jeff Fell @JerseyJeff14 9h
LOL As a Bears fan I know how terrible he really is. I'm laughing at Giants fans who are excited. Haha
Ginger King @Djeenigenburg 10h
@ProFootballTalk I'm sorry NY
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 10h
I just typed up three jokes and deleted them all. I'd better behave.
Jeff Fell @JerseyJeff14 9h ago
LOL Good luck with that @ProFootballTalk: Giants bring in tight end Kellen Davis
SeattleSeahawks (message board poster)
Kellen Davis? More like Hellen Kellen.
Quote:
.
What's the appeal there?
Dickson can at least play some when it comes to the passing game. Davis a pure blocking TE. #3 TE on a team with decent talent at the TE position.