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giantfanboy : 4/11/2014 1:13 pm
sorry but playing Eli the last game was the poorest coaching move TC ever made

it was rainy day - with THAT porous line -

I know hindsight is 20/20
now we have a 33 year old QB with a bad ankle

I know TC is all about giving 100% during season etc..
but there was ZERO to gain from playing Eli that day





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His worst coaching move was tolerating Plax's shit  
Go Terps : 4/11/2014 1:14 pm : link
Whatever second place is, it ain't close to that.
another coach once said  
FJ : 4/11/2014 1:14 pm : link
"You play to win the game."
You're Right on Hindsight  
Samiam : 4/11/2014 1:17 pm : link
What about the next to last game? Or the one before that?
putting a watered down version of a team on the field  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/11/2014 1:18 pm : link
because "there's nothing to gain" is completely unacceptable to me as a fan.
And if TC sat everyone in week 17 of his first Super Bowl Win??  
jjgmrg901 : 4/11/2014 1:20 pm : link
Please these type of comments should be typed into a word document, printed, then put in a bottle and then into the re-cycle bin as soon as possible!
Although  
Jerry in DC : 4/11/2014 1:21 pm : link
it makes sense from a fan's perspective to bench guys in those situations, you have to consider that teams never do this. It's not just Coughlin. It's everyone. There's a reason for that (probably multiple reasons actually). Benching your guys just isn't acceptable in the NFL - you can figure out a bunch of explanations for this - but it's obviously true. This isn't on Coughlin at all. It's just something bad that happened.
That's Football  
djstat : 4/11/2014 1:25 pm : link
It was a regular season game. You do not coach in fear of injury. The better move would have been to operate in January. But they went for the natural process. It is only April and in six weeks he should be good to go.

You all need to chill the heck out over analyzing every move. In Hindsight it was a bad move. Get over it.
One things fans never seem to understand  
JoefromPa : 4/11/2014 1:25 pm : link
is how important winning is to these coaches and players. Eli is getting millions to play, what message are you sending to the other starters you don't protect.
Eli said he wasn't sitting down and that was that.  
Britt in VA : 4/11/2014 1:25 pm : link
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this aint the NBA  
GiantNatty : 4/11/2014 1:26 pm : link
tanking is not acceptable. when healthy, you put your best team out there.
Inserting O'Hara (with bone chips lodged in his achilles)  
Joe in Cambridge : 4/11/2014 1:29 pm : link
into the starting lineup against the Eagles in 2010.
It's unfortuante, but any player can get hurt in any game at any time,  
Simms11 : 4/11/2014 1:30 pm : link
to include pre-season! Fans pay exorbinant prices for tickets and want to see their team perform with all of it's starters. It is entertainment too remember. And yes, TC is all about winning, as well. The whole team wanted to win that game, including Eli and build confidence and finish the season on a high note. Lastly, Eli is a competitor and I'm sure he wouldn't have been real happy if TC decided to rest him that game.
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arcarsenal : 4/11/2014 1:30 pm : link
The NFL would be pretty shitty if all teams just started playing their backups as soon as they were out of playoff contention.
Jjgmr  
Overseer : 4/11/2014 1:31 pm : link
Why, assuming you for some reason had to print the document, would you then bother putting it into a bottle in order to re-cycle it? Why not just re-cycle the piece of paper directly?
it's the same thing he did  
Moondwg : 4/11/2014 1:38 pm : link
by playing the starters against NE in 2007. You play to win. That's Coughlin.
I agree with OP  
shabu : 4/11/2014 1:40 pm : link
i agree with OP however that is not how TC and the giants organization does things...

We oldsters  
RetroJint : 4/11/2014 1:40 pm : link
have a word for both Eli & Coughlin. We call them "men". In the truest sense of the word.
in the past he's played with fire  
Enzo : 4/11/2014 1:45 pm : link
by keeping Eli in games where we were way ahead or behind - when we still had meaningful games left on the schedule. That's far worse than this example IMO.
mmm, I'm still going with that 4Q 50+ FG attempt against the Bears  
SB : 4/11/2014 1:58 pm : link
...in 2006 into the wind that Devin Hester returned for a 108 yard TD. Giants only down by 4 at the point, then out of the game entirely.
Youtube of the play, if you can stomach it - ( New Window )
RE: another coach once said  
Curtis in VA : 4/11/2014 2:02 pm : link
In comment 11616046 FJ said:
Quote:
"You play to win the game."


And what did that coach win?
RE: mmm, I'm still going with that 4Q 50+ FG attempt against the Bears  
rptl530 : 4/11/2014 2:02 pm : link
In comment 11616129 SB said:
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...in 2006 into the wind that Devin Hester returned for a 108 yard TD. Giants only down by 4 at the point, then out of the game entirely. Youtube of the play, if you can stomach it - ( New Window )


Yup.
RE: RE: another coach once said  
WideRight : 4/11/2014 2:09 pm : link
In comment 11616135 Curtis in VA said:
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In comment 11616046 FJ said:


Quote:


"You play to win the game."

That coach won the original miracle in the meadowlands...speaking of bad coaching


And what did that coach win?
oops  
WideRight : 4/11/2014 2:10 pm : link
That coach won the original miracle in the meadowlands....speaking of bad coaching
wht happens  
UConn4523 : 4/11/2014 2:12 pm : link
if Eli didn't play that game and instead got taken out on the sideline holding a clipboard instead of being on the field, tearing an ACL?

So stupid.
Part of what makes TC a great coach and 2 time SB winner  
kmed : 4/11/2014 2:12 pm : link
is because of how much he emphasis winning and the importance in being professional and doing everything you can to win. In no way does the OP have anything close to a valid point, what he has is hindsight and knowing the result. If you said before the game that Eli should have sat, then you know nothing about how this coach works.
See? I hate that guy!  
Curtis in VA : 4/11/2014 2:12 pm : link
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Do you  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/11/2014 2:23 pm : link
realize Eli will be back before the end of May? So TC should have sat the starting QB in order to make sure he doesn't suffer a relatively minor injury and be out for six weeks over 3 months before the next season starts?

And I'm sure Eli would have been just thrilled to sit out to prevent an injury. Stop it.
I also love how the OP describes Eli  
kmed : 4/11/2014 2:25 pm : link
as a 33 year old QB with a bad ankle. So this is a permanant ankle injury?
name a 33 year old anything without a bad something  
UConn4523 : 4/11/2014 2:36 pm : link
haha. The insight is brilliant though!
turning a blind eye to Snee's favoring one side when WALKING  
oipolloi : 4/11/2014 2:53 pm : link
strongly suggesting that he might have issues blocking 300 lb DTs
That could be more of a GM  
kmed : 4/11/2014 2:54 pm : link
issue though.
If you think Eli should have sat this game  
kmed : 4/11/2014 2:55 pm : link
then you think we should have benched everyone in 2007 against the Pats and if we do that, we probably don't win the SB. So if you think we should have benched Eli, you are anti-SB's.
RE: If you think Eli should have sat this game  
Curtis in VA : 4/11/2014 2:57 pm : link
In comment 11616221 kmed said:
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then you think we should have benched everyone in 2007 against the Pats and if we do that, we probably don't win the SB. So if you think we should have benched Eli, you are anti-SB's.


To put it simply, you're all frauds.
This  
BrettNYG10 : 4/11/2014 2:57 pm : link
RE: mmm, I'm still going with that 4Q 50+ FG attempt against the Bears  
mac attack : 4/11/2014 2:59 pm : link
In comment 11616129 SB said:
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...in 2006 into the wind that Devin Hester returned for a 108 yard TD. Giants only down by 4 at the point, then out of the game entirely. Youtube of the play, if you can stomach it - ( New Window )


Completely agree. I was at that game. Just an awful decision.

There have been a few times TC has decided to kneel the ball before half, under 2:00 and a timeout or two in his pocket that just drive me up a well. But then again, had he gone for some of those and it turned into a pick-6 we would be talking about those decisions as well.
IDK  
JOMO25 : 4/11/2014 3:26 pm : link
His worst coaching move was tolerating Plax's shit
Go Terps : 1:14 pm : link : reply

Whatever second place is, it ain't close to that.

-->> I am not in favor of putting up w/ nonsense but Plax could do things like put the team on his back (i.e. vs GB before SB 42).
I think that Eli should have played the last game  
giantsfour : 4/11/2014 3:37 pm : link
but they should have taken him out right before the play where he got hurt.
quite a few predicted  
mdc1 : 4/11/2014 4:14 pm : link
that Eli eventually would get hurt behind that unit. Imagine ignoring the oline through stoogery with Diehl, Snee, etc and then compromising your 100m QB. Yeah that sounds great. Logic fail...
RE: His worst coaching move was tolerating Plax's shit  
mdc1 : 4/11/2014 4:15 pm : link
In comment 11616045 Go Terps said:
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Whatever second place is, it ain't close to that.


Or was it not taking care of his contract early so he would not develop an attitude and taking care of the son-in-law first?

Seems kind of like Nicks eh? Cruz.
I cant really think  
AnishPatel : 4/11/2014 4:42 pm : link
of a lot of moves I disagreed with. Maybe coordinator hirings. For in game decisions, I wish someone would have said something to Hufangrl against fhr Titans where we had a 21 point lead or something and we kept calling passing plays. That's the game where Kiwi sacked Young but let him go. TC went batshit on Kiwi on the sideline.

Same type of issue but this was during the Windy Giants redskins game at Giant Stadium. We kept throwing in the wind and Eli had 34 or 39 incomplete passes. I was at that game and it was god awful seeing us throw it over and over again.
,.....  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/11/2014 4:48 pm : link
Quote:
Or was it not taking care of his contract early so he would not develop an attitude and taking care of the son-in-law first?


I hope this is a joke. This is even sillier than the OP. TC doesn't negotiate contracts. Furthermore, Snee was one of the top players in the league when he signed his contract. This idea of nepotism when it comes to Snee is laughable. He earned everything he has gotten.

We're seriously  
Randy in CT : 4/11/2014 4:59 pm : link
doing this?
was not  
Fish : 4/11/2014 5:28 pm : link
Having the hands team in for the onside kick against the eagles, miracle at the meadowlands 2, before desean jackson punt return game winner. I think WR Calhoun was there but didnt even think onside kick was possible.
tc  
SBlue46 : 4/11/2014 5:39 pm : link
Never took out eli even
After many 3 int games..
Thats why we need flynn.
Parcels would of at least
Yelled at him. Tc is all
Talk..he only yells at rookies.
Of course ho let snee rest
And got his 6mil...
if we dont  
SBlue46 : 4/11/2014 5:42 pm : link
Sign flynn dont be surprised
If we sign qb at 12.
Winning a third Super Bowl with Eli  
wgenesis123 : 4/11/2014 5:45 pm : link
and not retiring on top. So says my crystal ball.
Eli back in 6 weeks  
Bill in UT : 4/11/2014 5:54 pm : link
If you read Eric's latest update, Eli may not be back until training camp
....  
MetsAreBack : 4/11/2014 5:56 pm : link
1. Eli will be healthy in plenty of time for training camp and the regular season. He was never agile to begin with.

2. Eli wasnt sitting in week 17 given his consecutive game streak, something he's proud of and for good reason. Absent that streak, he probably would have sat, maybe for performance reasons if for nothing else - but reality is that streak exists. Deal with it.
RE: tc  
gmanod : 4/11/2014 6:25 pm : link
In comment 11616477 SBlue46 said:
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Never took out eli even
After many 3 int games..
Thats why we need flynn.
Parcels would of at least
Yelled at him. Tc is all
Talk..he only yells at rookies.
Of course ho let snee rest
And got his 6mil...
..............after27 ints guy gets a pat on the ass instead of a earful ...TC is Eli's bitch
RE: was not  
Mad Mike : 4/11/2014 6:32 pm : link
In comment 11616467 Fish said:
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Having the hands team in for the onside kick against the eagles, miracle at the meadowlands 2, before desean jackson punt return game winner. I think WR Calhoun was there but didnt even think onside kick was possible.

This.
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