Habs still need home ice. MSL-Girardi-and McDonagh all scratched, but they are healthy. Rangers have a tough time in Montreal, beat them shorthanded and start the offs feeling tough.. LGR
treatment by the refs ... unlike any team in any sport imo ... we just witnessed the very definition of instigator penalty ... it's really ridiculous ...
that the Habs player deserved an instigator there if Dorsett would have held onto his gloves for 2 or 3 more seconds, which would have negated their PP advantage. AV says "homie don't play that".
This rangers team has toughness. It isn't trash talking, fighting, after the whistle goonery toughness, but they don't back down from anyone and they don't let any of that shit change their style of play.
RE: But I wish that the Rangers retaliated like that.
I'm not talking about just "pounding" him. I'm talking about planning to re-injure his shoulder and take him out of the series.
You watch. When he is on the ice, they are not going to carry the puck into the Ranger's zone. Instead they are going to dump it to McDonagh's side - and then they are going to slam his injured shoulder into the boards - over and over.
Bobby Clarke slashed their super star with the intention of breaking his leg - which he did. Now, everyone hated the Russians at the time and cheered - but the fact is that what he did wasn't reserved for the Russians. That was Flyers hockey and still is. They will try to re-injure McDonagh. No doubt in my mind.
in a good way. This game has value to the Habs. They can get home ice if the Bolts lose tomorrow. It really is odd that MSL is watching tonight. He must have a slight little injury and they don't want to risk it. Before the game started they stated all 3 healthy.
I'm not talking just playing physical ... they are going to do
that ... no doubt about it ... but from what I read in today's papers, McDonagh can't yet even take a slap shot because of ongoing pain in the shoulder ... but he's going to play ...
and my prediction is they will specifically game plan around re-injuring his shoulder ... you'll know if you see them constantly dump the puck and make him chase it whenever he's on the ice (which is my prediction) ... they are the most classless organization in all of sports and they will specifically game plan to re-injure his shoulder
Why do you say "And that russian did not hve a previous leg broken.."? Nobody said he did. Bobby Clarke (and Esposito and all the Canadians) talk about the fact they decided to break his leg - in advance - and then Clarke went out there and did the deed.
There's a wonderful documentary on the series that they broadcast every few years or so
It was obvious they were going after him, and they are a Western Conference team, he will be a target and the Rangers have nobody on the team that can keep the other team honest. Rangers will have a hard time to get past the first round.
Burrows would have taken that cheap shot regardless of who was there at the time, every team will try to hammer Mac D and all Ranger defensemen in the playoffs.
Please explain this "targeting" thing..
they're all targets.
Yes, I wish the Rangers had guys that dished it out as well, but even if they did, their top guys would/will still get pounded..
Unless the game has changed in the last 10 minutes. If they had guys who could kick some ass, they are a deterrent, but it still does not stop legal or illegal hitting. The Rangers size and lack of grit does not bode well for playoff hockey. They have been pretty good against the Flyers of late, especially at home, we will see how this goes now.
I think the fact that this year's team has third and fourth lines that can contribute bodes well compared to previous years. If the top lines can get going this team could be difficult to handle.
I think the lack of physicality is somewhat of an issue but is overblown.
I think its over blown as far as the "deterrent" conversation goes, but I do think its an issue as far as which team is taking more of a pounding and its effect later in the series goes..
Not that they can't overcome it, just saying that's where the effect comes into play if it does at all..
Not sure they win a round without him. Biron predicted a Rangers-Habs ECF, which is extremely unlikely but stranger things have happened. Pittsburgh isn't playing that well right now and the Bruins have a difficult road for a Presidents Trophy winner (Detroit in Round 1 is no cakewalk followed by possibly the Habs)
I think the problem is more likely to manifest against a team like Boston that will outgrind you for puck possession for 60 minutes. We'll see--my guess is this version of the Rangers will either win or lose its early round series in fewer games than previous versions.
I think the problem is more likely to manifest against a team like Boston that will outgrind you for puck possession for 60 minutes. We'll see--my guess is this version of the Rangers will either win or lose its early round series in fewer games than previous versions.
I don't know, I think this Rangers-Flyers series is surely going 6 or 7 unless Mason (Flyers goalie) can't play after getting hit in the head against Pittsburgh...then with Emery in goal it could be a short series in our favor
when is game 1??
So far a strong showing.
I'm interested to see if they go with Carcillo or Fast for the playoff series.
This rangers team has toughness. It isn't trash talking, fighting, after the whistle goonery toughness, but they don't back down from anyone and they don't let any of that shit change their style of play.
My prediction? Watch for the Flyers to take runs at McDonagh and his shoulder throughout the series
and if they do, Girardi/Klein/Staal need to see to it that Giroux/Couturier pay the same price on the other end.
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My prediction? Watch for the Flyers to take runs at McDonagh and his shoulder throughout the series
Yeah, that will be a really weird to see a team want to pound the other teams #1 defenseman.
You watch. When he is on the ice, they are not going to carry the puck into the Ranger's zone. Instead they are going to dump it to McDonagh's side - and then they are going to slam his injured shoulder into the boards - over and over.
and my prediction is they will specifically game plan around re-injuring his shoulder ... you'll know if you see them constantly dump the puck and make him chase it whenever he's on the ice (which is my prediction) ... they are the most classless organization in all of sports and they will specifically game plan to re-injure his shoulder
There's a wonderful documentary on the series that they broadcast every few years or so
Oops... sorry ... didn't notice game was back on
This worry about "targeting" the shoulder is besides many points..
Please explain this "targeting" thing..
they're all targets.
Yes, I wish the Rangers had guys that dished it out as well, but even if they did, their top guys would/will still get pounded..
That's very different than "pounding" every defenseman.
Yup. They will. But that's totally missing the point. In addition they will TARGET his shoulder because it is not fully healed.
that's actually different from any other hockey hit.
Also, please let me know how you know how well he is or isn't healed.
Thanks..
I think the lack of physicality is somewhat of an issue but is overblown.
Not that they can't overcome it, just saying that's where the effect comes into play if it does at all..
I don't know, I think this Rangers-Flyers series is surely going 6 or 7 unless Mason (Flyers goalie) can't play after getting hit in the head against Pittsburgh...then with Emery in goal it could be a short series in our favor