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NFT: Rangers at Canadiens reg season finale

giantranger : 4/12/2014 7:10 pm
Habs still need home ice. MSL-Girardi-and McDonagh all scratched, but they are healthy. Rangers have a tough time in Montreal, beat them shorthanded and start the offs feeling tough.. LGR
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Of all the players they could rest, why sit MSL when he's starting  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:13 pm : link
to gel over the past few games?
MSL must have something minor but nagging  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:14 pm : link
Marty Biron seems to love the Flyers matchup for the Rangers.

when is game 1??
Thursday night i think  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:15 pm : link
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don't know why but center ice claims to have this on 772  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 7:15 pm : link
but it is not.. NHL net has it on but the senator-leafs is supposed to show there.. Weird
dangerous hit on Hags there  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:21 pm : link
he looked alright. hope he is.
JMoore sure does  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:22 pm : link
have a big shot when he has time to get it loaded.
great puck control on this PP  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:23 pm : link
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playing with neither  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:34 pm : link
McD or Girardi is an interesting test for the rest of the defensemen.

So far a strong showing.

I'm interested to see if they go with Carcillo or Fast for the playoff series.

MSL  
Deej : 4/12/2014 7:34 pm : link
Lets remember he's 38. A night off isnt a terrible idea.
Dorsett just fucking  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:39 pm : link
worked that guy
Dorsett  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 7:39 pm : link
in a good scrap with Boullion.. Nice work Derek he landed some and took some and stood tall
But I wish that the Rangers retaliated like that.  
yatqb : 4/12/2014 7:40 pm : link
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For all of my 61 years, Montreal has always received favorable  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:45 pm : link
treatment by the refs ... unlike any team in any sport imo ... we just witnessed the very definition of instigator penalty ... it's really ridiculous ...
ok ... great timing for my comment  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:46 pm : link
lol
problem is  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:49 pm : link
that the Habs player deserved an instigator there if Dorsett would have held onto his gloves for 2 or 3 more seconds, which would have negated their PP advantage. AV says "homie don't play that".

This rangers team has toughness. It isn't trash talking, fighting, after the whistle goonery toughness, but they don't back down from anyone and they don't let any of that shit change their style of play.

RE: But I wish that the Rangers retaliated like that.  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 7:50 pm : link
In comment 11617443 yatqb said:
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My prediction? Watch for the Flyers to take runs at McDonagh and his shoulder throughout the series
Ideally  
bigbluehoya : 4/12/2014 7:53 pm : link
the refs won't swallow their whistles on any of that kind of shit.

and if they do, Girardi/Klein/Staal need to see to it that Giroux/Couturier pay the same price on the other end.
RE: RE: But I wish that the Rangers retaliated like that.  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 7:58 pm : link
In comment 11617460 baadbill said:
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In comment 11617443 yatqb said:


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My prediction? Watch for the Flyers to take runs at McDonagh and his shoulder throughout the series




Yeah, that will be a really weird to see a team want to pound the other teams #1 defenseman.


Davisian  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 8:02 pm : link
I'm not talking about just "pounding" him. I'm talking about planning to re-injure his shoulder and take him out of the series.

You watch. When he is on the ice, they are not going to carry the puck into the Ranger's zone. Instead they are going to dump it to McDonagh's side - and then they are going to slam his injured shoulder into the boards - over and over.
That's been Flyer's hockey since 1968  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 8:03 pm : link
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In the 1977 series against the Russians,  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 8:08 pm : link
Bobby Clarke slashed their super star with the intention of breaking his leg - which he did. Now, everyone hated the Russians at the time and cheered - but the fact is that what he did wasn't reserved for the Russians. That was Flyers hockey and still is. They will try to re-injure McDonagh. No doubt in my mind.
bill  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 8:08 pm : link
They would try to hammer him with or without the injured shoulder.. If it isn't up to play, he shouldn't be in there..


And that russian did not hve a previous leg broken..  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 8:09 pm : link
Yes, they will play Flyers dirtbag hockey, it is known.

Falk hasn't been too noticable out there  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 8:10 pm : link
in a good way. This game has value to the Habs. They can get home ice if the Bolts lose tomorrow. It really is odd that MSL is watching tonight. He must have a slight little injury and they don't want to risk it. Before the game started they stated all 3 healthy.
I'm not talking just playing physical ... they are going to do  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 8:12 pm : link
that ... no doubt about it ... but from what I read in today's papers, McDonagh can't yet even take a slap shot because of ongoing pain in the shoulder ... but he's going to play ...

and my prediction is they will specifically game plan around re-injuring his shoulder ... you'll know if you see them constantly dump the puck and make him chase it whenever he's on the ice (which is my prediction) ... they are the most classless organization in all of sports and they will specifically game plan to re-injure his shoulder
Davisian  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 8:16 pm : link
Why do you say "And that russian did not hve a previous leg broken.."? Nobody said he did. Bobby Clarke (and Esposito and all the Canadians) talk about the fact they decided to break his leg - in advance - and then Clarke went out there and did the deed.

There's a wonderful documentary on the series that they broadcast every few years or so

Oops... sorry ... didn't notice game was back on
Because that's the point..  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 8:26 pm : link
It doesn't matter what shape Mac is in, they will try to hammer him.

This worry about "targeting" the shoulder is besides many points..


Getting the Flyers in Round 1 with the home ice  
dpinzow : 4/12/2014 9:04 pm : link
MSG will be manic for the first two games
When Mac did get hurt  
PaulN : 4/12/2014 9:07 pm : link
It was obvious they were going after him, and they are a Western Conference team, he will be a target and the Rangers have nobody on the team that can keep the other team honest. Rangers will have a hard time to get past the first round.
It was obvious who was going after him?  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 9:10 pm : link
Burrows would have taken that cheap shot regardless of who was there at the time, every team will try to hammer Mac D and all Ranger defensemen in the playoffs.

Please explain this "targeting" thing..

they're all targets.

Yes, I wish the Rangers had guys that dished it out as well, but even if they did, their top guys would/will still get pounded..

Please explain this "targeting" thing..  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 9:14 pm : link
Simple. Player not fully recovered from injury = Flyers will intentionally target and plan to to re-injure that player.

That's very different than "pounding" every defenseman.
They will hit him hard, every shift  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 9:23 pm : link
Regardless of any previous injury.

RE: They will hit him hard, every shift  
baadbill : 4/12/2014 9:25 pm : link
In comment 11617576 Davisian said:
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Regardless of any previous injury.


Yup. They will. But that's totally missing the point. In addition they will TARGET his shoulder because it is not fully healed.
Did not see any cross check by Hags  
NYerInMA : 4/12/2014 9:33 pm : link
Neither did the Montreal broadcast team. Oh Canada!
What an awful call.  
yatqb : 4/12/2014 9:33 pm : link
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horrible shift for Fast  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 9:42 pm : link
jesper can't be doing that shit
Fast is not ready for this league  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 9:45 pm : link
he had a gift from Hags and didn't even get a shot
geez Brassard and Pouliot  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 9:49 pm : link
have had some golden opportunities and wasted them without a shot..
Awful play by Klein and Diaz  
NYerInMA : 4/12/2014 9:54 pm : link
Hand the Habs a penalty shot and Cam can't make the stop.
Tabernac..  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 9:54 pm : link
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96 points  
NYerInMA : 4/12/2014 9:57 pm : link
Good regular season boys. Now to smash Philly next week!
bill  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 9:59 pm : link
please explain how a shoulder gets targeted on a hockey hit.

that's actually different from any other hockey hit.


Also, please let me know how you know how well he is or isn't healed.


Thanks..

Absolutely  
PaulN : 4/12/2014 9:59 pm : link
Unless the game has changed in the last 10 minutes. If they had guys who could kick some ass, they are a deterrent, but it still does not stop legal or illegal hitting. The Rangers size and lack of grit does not bode well for playoff hockey. They have been pretty good against the Flyers of late, especially at home, we will see how this goes now.
I don't know.  
Servo : 4/12/2014 10:06 pm : link
I think the fact that this year's team has third and fourth lines that can contribute bodes well compared to previous years. If the top lines can get going this team could be difficult to handle.

I think the lack of physicality is somewhat of an issue but is overblown.
Mac is fine  
giantranger : 4/12/2014 10:10 pm : link
and will be rejuvenated come game 1. Zucc had a close call tonight in that collision with Boullion. That could have been a disaster
servo  
Davisian : 4/12/2014 10:14 pm : link
I think its over blown as far as the "deterrent" conversation goes, but I do think its an issue as far as which team is taking more of a pounding and its effect later in the series goes..

Not that they can't overcome it, just saying that's where the effect comes into play if it does at all..

Will Kreider be back next week?  
dpinzow : 4/12/2014 10:18 pm : link
Not sure they win a round without him. Biron predicted a Rangers-Habs ECF, which is extremely unlikely but stranger things have happened. Pittsburgh isn't playing that well right now and the Bruins have a difficult road for a Presidents Trophy winner (Detroit in Round 1 is no cakewalk followed by possibly the Habs)
Yeah  
Servo : 4/12/2014 10:21 pm : link
I think the problem is more likely to manifest against a team like Boston that will outgrind you for puck possession for 60 minutes. We'll see--my guess is this version of the Rangers will either win or lose its early round series in fewer games than previous versions.
Good luck in your playoffs, boys.  
pganut : 4/12/2014 10:24 pm : link
I'll pull for you to beat Philly. But not so much after, okay?
RE: Yeah  
dpinzow : 4/12/2014 10:26 pm : link
In comment 11617634 Servo said:
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I think the problem is more likely to manifest against a team like Boston that will outgrind you for puck possession for 60 minutes. We'll see--my guess is this version of the Rangers will either win or lose its early round series in fewer games than previous versions.


I don't know, I think this Rangers-Flyers series is surely going 6 or 7 unless Mason (Flyers goalie) can't play after getting hit in the head against Pittsburgh...then with Emery in goal it could be a short series in our favor
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