Do you grab Bridgewater 12th?

... It's only worth drafting Bridgewater if the Giants already have a trading partner.

My opinion the second coming of a Vince Young career

on this site will say yes unless its a trade down scenario

I'll be ok with grabbing him if it's a trade up scenario.


Like how we grabbed Rivers.

Bridgewater got a 20 on the wonderlic test. Think that doesn't make him a Reese kinda QB selection, not at 12 anyway.
Manziel 32, Bortles 28, Bridgewater 20 on Wonderlic - ( New Window )

but was concerned about that Wonderlic. It could be a telling test in that transition from college to the pros. Players have overcome it but I'd prefer a higher score.

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shows a wide open receiver.

Too many better players will be there, I don't think too highly of his pro potential.

like Bridgewater more than most here. He had a phenomenal career at Louisville. Too much is being made of his pro days. People are nitpicking. Same with the Wonderlic. He has a better ability to read defenses than any other QB in the draft, and has some mobility. The biggest criticism is that he doesn't have a cannon for an arm.

But I still wouldn't pick him at #12. We have Nassib. If he's on the board at #12, you auction the pick. The problem is I'm not sure what you'll get, because from what I've read, he may slip all the way to the bottom of the first.

but all reports have this guy looking terrible at combines, pro days, etc....

So why would we take him knowing he may actually be overrated when this team has needs out of the wazoo?

Bridgewater plays just like another product of a Miami High School - Jakory Harris who played for Miami Hurricanes.

He can hit a wide open receiver but that's about all.

He is too skinny and can't take the pounding.

He may be a leader but can't get anyone to follow him.

He is only as good as the talent around him.

why would you..

find Reese if this happens and smack him

In comment 11617966 Randy in CT said:

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but was concerned about that Wonderlic. It could be a telling test in that transition from college to the pros. Players have overcome it but I'd prefer a higher score.

It could be a lot for a wonderlic, didn't Peyton Manning get a 28? Either way, reading defenses and managing a game has always been his strength.

No.

so no; and he may not go in the first round at all.

That is a panic move. First you get what you can get out of Eli, but you don't just suddenly quit on a two-time super bowl mvp unless he is suffering from a career ending injury.

Not a good combo for the nfl.

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I have only watched him play a half dozen times but he didn't really impress me. Seems like more of a system guy. I see a more men's version of Matt Ryan. I think he will be a Schaub type player. To be honest, I am not high on any of the qb's in this draft.

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nada, no way, no how, in any circumstances, uh uh, hell to the no

its getting to the point where even lurking on BBI until training camp is the dumbest thing I do all day. How ignorant can a large % of our fanbase get right now? The Giants are not drafting a fucking QB in round 1. They're also not even drafting a TE in round 1. OL, end of story. Eli Manning will be your starting QB until he is no longer contractually obligated to do so.

no need to draft one ourselves right now.

With all the FA money spent, seems clear we are loading up for a last run with the coach and manning. We should be able to grab a player at 12 that contributes to that effort immediately. Don't know squat about th I s kid but he certainly is not that.

Eli is tough and talented. We are not drafting Bridgewater! I think Bridgewater with a good OL will be successful but his having a poor pro day definitely makes me wonder why that happened. This year we have had a lot of disagreement about draftees. At one time, I thought Bridgewater was a number one pick but now see him as dropping lower into the first round. He could end up as a big steal. Those who underestimate Eli are not doing him justice. He is smart and is a big play QB in the 4th quarter. Yes, he sometimes does the goofiest things but that is Eli who hates giving up on a play. Truthfully, we had a crappy team last season and our record should have been worse, and yet we expected more from a battered Eli. We build a good team and Eli will lead us back to being a playoff contender.

But it kind of seems like there's a little smoke with this whole Eli/injury and decline thing. He's also coming off two straight seasons that didn't exactly inspire confidence. And it's definitely worth mentioning that the giants may in fact have a elite QB prospect drop right into their laps at 12. And they drafted a QB kind of high, last year.

Let's leave love and respect for the player aside for just one second and lol at this with objectivity. Think outside the box for just a second. Is it that crazy to think the giants are at least entertaining the idea of drafting what they believe to be a blue chip QB if that QB happens to slip to 12? Can you really blame them? I can't.

We may never know because the QB may not even slip to 12 but it's certainly worth mentioning. What if they passed on a QB they loved and Eli has another shaky season? How would Reese and company feel then? They'd feel like they let one get away...

Really with any QB in mind..

In comment 11618206 weeg in the bronx said:

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With all the FA money spent, seems clear we are loading up for a last run with the coach and manning. We should be able to grab a player at 12 that contributes to that effort immediately. Don't know squat about th I s kid but he certainly is not that.

I do agree to an extent but the giants should still be thinking long term and even the FA signings won't hamstring this team, long term.

I wonder if the giants have a QB on this list that they'd have a tough time passing on at 12. Probably not but you never know.

you're drafting a clipboard cadet for 2 years. and then hoping he's worth the pick in 3. meanwhile, you'd have 2 years worth of chances to draft QB if you felt so inclined, and have the transition work properly.

if you did play the QB in year 2, any value you got from him being "cheap" would be wiped out by the cap penalty for a cut/trade

Should read let's look at this with objectivity. No. Pun. Intended!

Tell the packers that the Rodgers pick was a waste. Or the niners pick (trade) of Steve young.

If you take a QB that develops into a franchise talent that pick will literally save a team from ten years of ineptitude. A bad pick can inconvenience a franchise. Let's not forget the value a good QB brings to a team.

I said it all during the 2013 season when shit was going south and I'll say it again-- if Reese loves a QB and believes this guy can carry the torch from Eli in 2-3 years guy absolutely have to take him. A franchise QB? Are you kidding? Fuck yes you take him.

It's a fair argument but I don't think Bridgewater is that guy. And if he's not, it becomes a big, big waste of a pick because there are going to be some really good players on the board at other positions there.

is Bridgewater really that much better of a prospect than Nassib?

If the answer is yes and you drafted him, what the hell do you do with Nassib? Not many teams would give more than a low round draft pick for him.

On the plus side, if Bridgewater becomes your starter in 2015, you save $17M against the cap by cutting Eli.

Downside? If Bridgewater can't cut it as a franchise QB in NY, heads will roll and you'll have pissed away a first round draft pick.
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Disclaimer: I'd never pick Eli's replacement yet.

If they feel he is a blue chip QB rated much higher above the next level prospect I could see a scenario where they draft him.. Maybe to trade him, maybe to hedge vs a regression in Eli's play. I don't see it as out of the real of possibility. But that's a very slim chance, most likely there will be higher rated prospects available.

Rodgers was taken by a good team at 24. they could afford to gamble on a "freezer" QB. we were a terrible team last year drafting at 12

But you trade down with a team that wants him.

Hell No.

Just saying any QB really.

And I'm not necessarily saying I want the giants to take a QB but I'd love to know that life after Eli won't suck for the next 7-10 years. Of course everything is a crap shoot.

I'd be fine with taking a player at 12 and not the QB. But I wouldn't blame anyone if they took a QB they loved.

The teams that think ahead with the QB position usually don't regret it.

To touch on the QB thing since I don't think bridge is likely to be a guy the giants would draft at 12. Lower wonderlick etc...

Bortles probably has the least downside, but he's not making it to us anyway.

In comment 11618246 djm said:

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Just saying any QB really. And I'm not necessarily saying I want the giants to take a QB but I'd love to know that life after Eli won't suck for the next 7-10 years.

Life after Eli doesn't start for another 7 years. That's an entire coaching era for many.

Question... Hypothetically... If Bortles fell to 12...

Do we entertain the thought of taking him... I'm torn on that one.

In comment 11618306 Tim in Eternal Blue said:

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Question... Hypothetically... If Bortles fell to 12... Do we entertain the thought of taking him... I'm torn on that one.

No. You auction the pick, but of course that would never happen. In an ideal situation, Johnny football falls to us. Someone might well trade up to get him. For the right deal, I'd even ship him to Dallas.

Oh, wait...that was Eli Manning.

Let's pray Nassib is a Drew Brees in waiting and we have the luxury of not thinking about QB in the near future.

In comment 11618328 Micko said:

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Let's pray Nassib is a Drew Brees in waiting and we have the luxury of not thinking about QB in the near future.

Amen...

You think he will become a franchise QB and you don't take him, you are a total moron. The only question is this, how do the Giants feel about him, that is what we don't know. But you NEVER pass on a franchise QB, EVER. If he develops into a great QB, you could trade Eli for draft picks, this is a business, and you must think that way first, or you will regret it.