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How would you personally make pick #12?

mrvax : 4/14/2014 1:49 pm
Obviously, the Giants have more needs on offense than defense this year. I think we all can agree on that. Now you have to make pick #12.

I'm not asking to name a player. I want to know your drafting philosophy for our first round pick #12.

Are you in the "pure BPA" camp

or

are you in the "offense comes first" and the #12 guy must be on offense?

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IMO, I believe that with the 1st pick, I go BPA regardless of whether or not the player is offense or defense.
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BPA at a position of need,  
yatqb : 4/14/2014 6:15 pm : link
and if there's one guy from a higher tier who doesn't play at a position of need try hard to trade down.

Now, if you're after a particular player (e.g., Donald) and you get information that another team is seeking to trade up to take him before your pick I'd carefully consider whether I'd prefer to trade up myself, or alternately stay where we are because we knoww that one of the other guys we are high on will have to fall to us in those circumstances.
Trade down to around 20 and pick up an extra 2nd rounder  
chris r : 4/14/2014 6:26 pm : link
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Tough because of the new coordinator  
mattlawson : 4/14/2014 7:04 pm : link
Hard to know what the offense is going to look like. What it's strengths and weaknesses are. I do know we need a game changing WR and TE. The OL moves already made may be enough to win.

We just don't know though
RE: i really don't get  
GmenDynasty : 4/14/2014 7:09 pm : link
In comment 11619940 M in CT said:
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all the clamor to draft a tackle. i realize there are some blue chippers in this draft, but consider:

1. we already have a starting LT in Beatty. true, Beatty played like shit last year, but also true, he has shown he can play well in the past and our entire OL broke down last year. he was a problem, but he wasn't THE problem. i expect him to improve substantially and his contract is fairly team-friendly for a good LT. so if he returns to form, we're in great shape cap-wise.

2. we already have a starting RT in Pugh who, oh by the way, was pretty much the best rookie OL in the league last year, despite being the fifth OL drafted. i don't see us messing with that. i think Pugh stays right where he is.

3. we already shored up the OL with Schwartz, we're getting Snee back, and we also got Walton. that's a pretty big FA investment in one area of the team. that, to me, makes it less likely that we use our premium pick on the same area of the team.

4. the so-called blue chip OTs from last year's draft (Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Lane Johnson and DJ Fluker) all had their struggles last year. none of them were as good as Pugh. it's a very hard position to nail in the draft.


The Giants don't give up on players quickly. Beatty had a bad year but practically the whole offense did in our old system. If Beatty returns to form this OL is pretty set save for Snee's spot (who is still a shaky proposition at best). We can get that OG or versatile OL to fill that spot at 43.

With that said, you almost always go for a guy if he is glaring BPA over everyone else (unless you are absolutely stocked at that position like CB). Donald , if the draft falls like many are predicting will be glaring BPA over everyone else IMO. Take him and have a dominant pass rushing DT for the next decade to play along side a totally young and talented line of JPP,DaMonster and Hankins.
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blue42 : 4/14/2014 7:29 pm : link
take Zach Martin and have a Pro Bowl guard next year.
Then go fishing in the later rounds.
that will give you an OL that will allow your qb to function like he used to.
Trade down, collect chips  
mikeygiants : 4/14/2014 8:20 pm : link
and then start filling the coffers. This draft is deep!
Isn't it obvious  
Spock : 4/14/2014 8:31 pm : link
We need a qb. Eli is declining.
simple...  
Amtoft : 4/14/2014 8:33 pm : link
build a draft board of 12 players that fit your team and needs... Then when your pick comes take the highest rated player you have on your list.
For me personally it would come down to four players  
Jay on the Island : 4/14/2014 8:51 pm : link
Aaron Donald, Taylor Lewan, Zach Martin, and Marqise Lee.
I would ...  
Manny in CA : 4/14/2014 11:52 pm : link
"Personally" be on the phone with every team 13 through 32, setting up the very best trade-down scenario available.

The Giants presently, are NOT one player away from approaching their former glory - they have several but not an overwhelming number holes. They still have some very good players at key positions.

In my view, this is not a very rich at top type draft (as are most drafts), but rather a very deep draft (as most aren't).

I think that the team, given it's advantageous drafting positions across the board, can pick up some very solid players by first trading down then parlaying several of the remaining lower picks to move up to come way from this draft with as many as three #2s and maybe a couple of #3s.

Amtoft that wouldn't do at all,  
BlueLou : 4/15/2014 1:05 am : link
because you'd have on idea how to evaluate trade down requests. You've got to build tiers of players by overall talent and desirability.
BTW in general I wouldn't do much differently  
BlueLou : 4/15/2014 1:11 am : link
Than what JR does now. He hasn't blown a 1st round pick since Ross, and Ross wasn't a total bust.


Except maybe consult Zoltan's crystal ball about future injuries.
JR should have drafted Bowe not Ross  
Torrag : 4/15/2014 1:25 am : link
I know why he did it but it was still a mistake.
I think they'd have 3-4 guys targeted, something like  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/15/2014 4:46 am : link
and have a 'score' or grade on them. They will have their preference and go with the highest preference on a similar grade scale.

Ebron - 77
Gilbert - 76
Barr - 77
Donald - 75
has to be OL  
Victor in CT : 4/15/2014 8:20 am : link
that is still the biggest problem area
pick @ 12  
GNTS-1 : 4/15/2014 9:14 am : link
Im goin o-line,wr,te...
How would I personally make pick #12?  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2014 9:16 am : link
I would walk up to the podium and say "with the 12th pick of the 2014 national football league draft, the New York Giants select..." and I would say the name of the person on the card.

it's easy.
Unless our line can be better  
snumber6 : 4/15/2014 9:18 am : link
I'd go orthopedic surgeon or punter depending on how bad they are ...
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