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Giants Interested in Sidney Rice

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2014 2:37 pm
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Per source, Seahawks, Giants, Saints, and Panthers have interest of some degree in Sidney Rice.
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He's never had good QB play  
kmed : 4/14/2014 3:33 pm : link
and been healthy at the same time.
Why not, and of course you don't overpay  
PatersonPlank : 4/14/2014 3:34 pm : link
But why not.
why not?  
UConn4523 : 4/14/2014 3:38 pm : link
its not like we'd give him a ton of money. I'm fine with it if healthy, which he would be if we signed him.
RE: Some team will pay  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2014 3:38 pm : link
In comment 11620003 mrvax said:
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more than vet minimum. Maybe not much more. Something like an incentive laden contract tied to playing time.

BTW: If you look at his stats, it's weird. Pedestrian to OK every year except this unreal 2009 season where he has 83 catches for 1312 yards. Sidney Rice - ( New Window )


Not that weird.. Favre was there that year and he was awesome. He never had a QB playing at that level any other year he's been around.
He'd  
AcidTest : 4/14/2014 3:43 pm : link
be a camp body signed for vet minimum in all likelihood. As someone said, he has a long injury history. I would pass, but it's not like we'd be guaranteeing anything. Reese is loading up on second tier FAs, which is fine. Two or three should make the 53. The rest will be cut. If they do anything, then maybe another team or the Giants will pick them up mid season.
Rice  
pganut : 4/14/2014 3:49 pm : link
I remember the bomb he caught for a TD against us in 2007 on like the second play of the game from Tarvaris Jackson. Tarvaris Freakin' Jackson. Ugh.
i'd rather him at camp than Manningham  
UConn4523 : 4/14/2014 3:57 pm : link
more upside with Rice, and would be nice to see what he can do with a real QB.
6' 4" never hurt either  
GiantTuff1 : 4/14/2014 4:07 pm : link
Can you say green zone target?
if he's healthy  
GMANinDC : 4/14/2014 4:08 pm : link
he can beat out MM and JJ..
Should fit right in!  
TC : 4/14/2014 4:10 pm : link
"Rice has been injury prone throughout his career. He has missed significant time with knee, hip, and concussion issues."
Injury history discouraging  
Jupiter : 4/14/2014 4:10 pm : link
Definitely talent worthy of a starter in the league. Unless the light bulb suddenly goes on for Randle, all Rice would have to do is make it through training camp in order to be the starter for the Giants, but the injury history is a real turn off. If he had a bad attitude, that might be easier to deal with than injuries.

If Seattle is putting out feelers now but gets no takers, he will be a definite post draft cut. Sit back and wait. Then offer a low risk contract.
Jupiter  
GMANinDC : 4/14/2014 4:16 pm : link
he's a FA..
Paul Dottino  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/14/2014 4:21 pm : link
says he suggested Rice or Miles Austin as a cheap veteran late in FA. Says Austin may be the safer bet...he may be right.
RE: Paul Dottino  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/14/2014 4:22 pm : link
In comment 11620106 Eric from BBI said:
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says he suggested Rice or Miles Austin as a cheap veteran late in FA. Says Austin may be the safer bet...he may be right.


Of those two? Austin is DEFINITELY a better player, but Austin's issue is that he's constantly hurt.
IF healthy  
BillyBoy8384 : 4/14/2014 4:25 pm : link
Im a hundred percent sure he can become Eli's big WR that we need. Dont break the bank...1yr 2 mil with incentives
When most teams . . . .  
TC : 4/14/2014 4:29 pm : link
pick up a veteran FA, they give him a locker.

The Giants reserve a hospital bed!
I would rather have a guy  
GiantTuff1 : 4/14/2014 4:29 pm : link
who has had bad luck with random injuries than one who's hamstring is chronically injured each year.

I'd prefer Rice to Austin.
What does Austin have left?  
Phil from WNY : 4/14/2014 4:29 pm : link
Seems to have been a shell of his old self the last couple of years. If he checks out, he's worth a look.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2014 4:33 pm : link
I think I'd take Rice over Austin if they were both 100% healthy.
I'll  
AnishPatel : 4/14/2014 4:37 pm : link
pass on both and see if we can draft some, and bring in undrafted FAs. I don't want injury prone guys.
I'd pass on both also...  
rptl530 : 4/14/2014 4:42 pm : link
but in either case it seems a "no harm, no foul" type of situation.

At least it had better be.
You guys want everyone to play for the vet  
HomerJones45 : 4/14/2014 4:50 pm : link
minimum with incentives.
Why do so many of us seem obsessed to include the comment  
Jimmy Googs : 4/14/2014 4:51 pm : link
"...but we shouldn't overpay" regarding any potential free agent transaction thread?

Everybody on BBI who has recommended that the Giants overpay a player lately, please raise your hands...

I'd  
Toth029 : 4/14/2014 4:53 pm : link
Take Austin over him too. Plays hard. But both are always nicked up so it isn't ideal.
RE: You guys want everyone to play for the vet  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2014 5:03 pm : link
In comment 11620145 HomerJones45 said:
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minimum with incentives.


No, just players like Rice who are talented but extremely prone to getting hurt. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense giving a lot of guaranteed money to a player who is hurt as often as Rice or Austin are.
RE: You guys want everyone to play for the vet  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/14/2014 5:17 pm : link
In comment 11620145 HomerJones45 said:
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minimum with incentives.


Normally I'd agree and that is a funny trend around here, but this is a guy who's broken 800 yards once in seven NFL seasons, and he's failed due to both injuries and at times just a flat out lack of production.

Maybe he'll garner a smidge more than the vet minimum but he's not worth much more, IMO.
Homer  
GMANinDC : 4/14/2014 5:33 pm : link
You have a point. Almost every FA that has been bought in or discussed here, the customary "vet minimum" is always invoked..
RE: .  
mattlawson : 4/14/2014 6:42 pm : link
In comment 11620122 arcarsenal said:
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I think I'd take Rice over Austin if they were both 100% healthy.



I would too without batting an eye. We have Cruz -- who is better than Austin. We need a deep threat that can out jump a top corner. Could be rice
It's been a heck of an off season this year - lol  
gidiefor : 4/14/2014 7:01 pm : link
Jerry certainly entertaining the fans
Note to Jerry....  
blue42 : 4/14/2014 7:14 pm : link
please sign everyone at the " vet minimum". You'll save money.
Rice over Austin  
bluepepper : 4/14/2014 7:28 pm : link
for me too if healthy, he was great with Favre in Minny. But the likelihood of either guy staying on the field is small
No on Rice...  
Jerry's Kids : 4/14/2014 7:37 pm : link
I'd take a shot on Austin, maybe. You can't pencil these guys in to the lineup though. At some point they are just a waste of roster spot. They get injured every year. Maybe it's a bridge to a rookie though in week 4 when they inevitably get hurt.

I guess that last part makes sense.
The idea isn't to sign Rice and then depend on him as a starter..  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2014 8:05 pm : link
If he's cheap, you're not taking a big risk but there's a really solid potential reward if he can manage to stay healthy which is why you do it. If they check him out and he just physically isn't there, you move on.. but I always like the idea of low risk/high reward deals. If they don't work out, so be it. I realize the roster spot is valuable but even still.
Is Herman Moore next?  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/14/2014 8:24 pm : link
Sorry. Had to.
Yeah... no.  
arcarsenal : 4/14/2014 8:40 pm : link
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RE: Why do so many of us seem obsessed to include the comment  
Semipro Lineman : 4/14/2014 8:40 pm : link
In comment 11620147 Jimmy Googs said:
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"...but we shouldn't overpay" regarding any potential free agent transaction thread?

Everybody on BBI who has recommended that the Giants overpay a player lately, please raise your hands...


It was me. I recommended that the Giants overpay Schofield because his agent's brother went to college with my second cousin on my mother's side. He's kinda family you know...
Here's the problem with the cheap signing  
RetroJint : 4/14/2014 9:50 pm : link
scenario. You get him in. He looks good. You keep him. He moves up the depth chart. Other guys get cut. You rely on him, make big plans. Then he gets hurt again. What have you gained by the cheap contract? You were counting on him. Anybody can get injured. On one play 5 guys can get hurt. True. But at some point you have to decide that you're going younger & healthier. Rice always impressed the hell out of me. But they already have one reclamation project in Manningham. Who needs 2?
I figure Jerry  
Blue Blood : 4/14/2014 11:03 pm : link
is getting everything he can so that he can be a flexible as possible on draft day.. If they sign Rice I would expect them to go heavy on OL/DL in the draft..
hopefully he's still available after  
Neverend : 4/14/2014 11:45 pm : link
the draft
put me in the group that would want Sidney Rice on our Giants..  
Rsspro : 4/15/2014 12:19 am : link
the guy has tremendous talent.. he's got speed, and he's a big target.. he lived up to his potential in spurts.. with that one great year too.. but still.. if healthy.. yeah.. that's an if.. and injuries have been a problem.. but if healthy.. he's a guy who is still young (27) and can make an impact on a team and steady his career assuming he stays healthy..

he could be looking for a Reese/BBI famous "one year prove it contract".. which is nice.. but if he comes here and stays healthy.. I'd much rather have him a minimum of 2 years.. with that said.. if he comes here and stays healthy and produces.. chances of us keeping him are very slim.. then he'd be looking for big money..
I prefer Rice over Austin  
Modus Operandi : 4/15/2014 6:21 am : link
But isnt that two ACL tears in 3 years for him? I recall him missing significant time in his last season with the Vikes.
You let Nicks walk but bring in a guy who isn't fit  
BlueLou : 4/15/2014 8:22 am : link
to shine Nicks' shoes vis a vis career achievement?


Of course you wouldn't pay squat guaranteed for Rice, that goes without saying.
You let Nicks walk but bring in a guy who isn't fit  
BlueLou : 4/15/2014 8:24 am : link
to shine Nicks' shoes vis a vis career achievement?


Of course you wouldn't pay squat guaranteed for Rice, that goes without saying.
Talentwise, Rice over Austin  
kmed : 4/15/2014 8:48 am : link
by a mile for me. However, Rice has had some major injuries and is always banged up so that might bring them closer. Without knowing Rice's health right now, it's tough to say which guy I'd rather, but if we want upside, Rice is the better option.
Watched every Viking game in 2009.  
Tark10 : 4/15/2014 8:52 am : link
Rice was amazing that year and was Favre's favorite target. He suffered an injury and missed 2/3's of the 2010 season. He then became a free agent and didn't do much in Seattle. He is the most interesting receiver left out there. I'd love to see the Giants bring him in. Lets see what Eli can do with him.
Agreed,  
kmed : 4/15/2014 8:56 am : link
he was awesome in 2009 and he routinely made circus catches and stretched the field. I loved him after 2009, but then he battled injuries and bad QB play for a while. The dude has upside, no doubt.
When healthy,  
Curtis in VA : 4/15/2014 9:50 am : link
2009 Highlights

which, unfortunately for him, is never.
If they are looking  
JoefromPa : 4/15/2014 9:54 am : link
to replace the Nicks of 2 years ago, seems like they are looking in the wrong places.

Beginning to think more and more, 1st pick is a receiver.
I don't think they are looking to replace Nicks lol  
Curtis in VA : 4/15/2014 9:58 am : link
They are taking a shot on a guy who, before his injuries, was pretty brilliant.

I wouldn't expect much. Especially from a guy whose career has been injury ridden becoming a member of one of the most injury prone teams in the league.

But if he does stay healthy it would be a great signing, at least for this season.
For sure Rice is not the play the Giants are making to replace Nicks.  
BlueLou : 4/15/2014 10:08 am : link
That guy is still Reuben Randle, even if they draft a WR @ 12.

The team still needs more depth at WR and maybe more guys that can stretch the field.
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