NFT: Mets / D'Backs

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Offense is brutal.

But I do think he can bounce back and put up a solid season this year. We could use him.

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how does he not score on that? Are you kidding me??

approach in spring training. Worked with Carew all offseason to go the other way. Who knows? The guy was a 30 home run bat to that long ago and is still pretty young. Anything to get Eric Young out of the lineup.

We may have fucked up signing Granderson. He's been scary bad

I expected a lot of strikeouts but he's not THIS bad. Hopefully he'll improve a bit. He's just chasing everything right now.. he's trying too hard to hit everything out of the park.

Granderson is in a huge funk. He's on pace for like a 1000 strikeouts while batting .100. No way he's this bad.

with all the pissing and moaning(myself included) Mejia is the 5th starter, Lagares is in CF everyday(and I really doubt thats changing regardless of what Collins wants) and Flores is starting every single day at SS in AAA clearly being viewed as a possible solution.

My god. The heart of our order Murphy, Wright , and Granderson have been terrible. 11 RBIS total between them. D'Arnaud went 0 for the first week and a half. Tejada is hitting like .190. Eric Young is batting like .180. Our whole offense has been Lagares and a couple late inning magic games from Duda and Ike.

Its amazing we are just under .500. We have a brutal schedule this month. If we come out of it even close to .500 Ill be thrilled. We can't hit this bad forever. We've been terrible.

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2-2 already tonight

Young still batting .1000. 2-2 tonight so far.

.178 now

on Flores. Weirdly Cambell is starting at SS tonight. Hopefully just a one day thing.

shutting up all the pissy whiners. 2-5 again. Crushing the ball almost hitting .400.

as soon as Young is ready to come back. Two OFs get hurt. Unreal

Granderson and Lagares gone? Our luck Lagares will be out a month now.

he'll be on the DL.

My oh my. Tomorrow's outfield will be Duda, E Young, and Abreu!!

before Abreu. How is Puello doing down there?

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Way to early to call up Puello. After the all-star break maybe. Don't be so sure about Abreu. He's hitting .500 and has an opt-out of his contract by the end of the month. He'll be up sooner than later.

now but yet again comes through with a single with the bases loaded. Some dudes are just clutch and rise above when the pressure is on. He is an RBI machine. I don't think we have anyone on the team like that currently.

...in one fell swoop.

Impressive. Can't make this shit up.

Lagares expected back after the break (all-star game)

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but as a Mets fan that would be our luck. lol

right in front of Duda.

is going to be worn out before the all star break

Torres can get out lefties and since Rice and Lannan have sucked, Torres is his new whipping boy!

substitue Recker for Darnud like half way through the game just as D'Arnaud seems to be getting hot with the bat?

Torres has been a pretty effective reliever. Him and German have been really good other than valverde and farnsworth.

Murphy has made 4 ridiculous defensive plays in this game.

he was sitting in the upper 90's and his last pitch was clocked at 100mph

how would this project. Your staters for 2015
Gee, Niese,Mejia, DeGrom & Montero

your 7th inning,8th inning & closer are Wheeler, Syndergaard & Harvey

with minimal offense and solid defense that is a 95 win team. Now before you kill me we all know this is just an exercise

of wheeler, thor, and harvey.

and they can't pitch every day.

That configuration has a better chance to lose 95 games than to win 95 IMO

pitch every day? Let's say they could. You get 6 innings from your starter and it's game over. How you can say that is a 95 loss configuration is beyond me. I couldn't conceive of them losing 67 games

degrom and montero have proven zero as major league starters, Niese and Gee are solid rotation guys - I think both are in the middle of the rotation, on a good team the back of the rotation, but that usually gets you .500 or around there.

And then you're seriously questioning if they could pitch every day, 162 appearances?

the record of 106 appearances by a pitcher was set in 1974. Pretty sure none of the three you mention in the pen would get close.

60 appearances is more likely, 80 tops.

In warming up a pitcher generally throws about an inning or two worth of pitches (although not all at full speed). Assuming they each pitch 120 games in your scenario you are talking aboout the equivalent of 300+ innings each if you include warming up

the most dominating pitcher I've seen in my lifetime was Pedro Martinez.

In his hey day, the Red Sox won 80% of his starts. he was 23 - 4 his best year - and I'm talking games he started but his team won, was 80% (he made 29 starts).

So basically you're saying each of Niese, Gee, Degrom, Montero, and Mejia would all make around 32 starts and be each around 19 - 13.

What you're suggesting would be nice, but it's unrealistic to say the least.

these guys are hopefully the core of the rotation for a decade, but that would make a 9 inning game a 6 inning game. Relievers converted from starters, is probably the path most relievers followed

you make Steven Matz your Loogy :)

but you have a much better chance of having a lead in the 7th if Harvey, Thor and Wheeler are your starters than 3 other guys.

and you have Familia in the pen who is a converted starter and maybe someone like Matz (if he can't sustain the workload of a starter - his stuff is electric). even Mejia simply if he's odd man out in a rotation of better pitchers.

put Matz in the same sentence as Kershaw and he didn't back off of it?

would be nice, but by the time Kershaw was Matz's age he had 1 CY young and 45 major league wins.

I love Matz's stuff, but I'd like to see him just stay healthy another year, and build arm strength.

He would be an awesome addition to the rotation or the pen.

Those 3 should all be in the rotation. Would make more sense for Mejia/deGrom, etc to be in the pen.. even though I still don't want Mejia in there.

upside is a top of the rotation starter. If he can get his control down, he has swing and miss as good as anybody on the team. BTW, was last night's game the first time in a while, no Met pitcher gave up a homerun?

Wright, Grandy and Murphy can hit the bench. Think of the pinch hitting possibilities.

By the way - made me realize how awful the Mets are when trying to think of the three best hitters on the team. So depressing.

I guess the question is.. what happens if Harvey does come back and Thor and Montero are as advertised. You've got Harvey, Thor, Wheeler, Montero, Niese, Gee, Mejia... can't have a 7 man rotation so do you trade someone or send someone(s) to the pen?

Odds of all 7 of those guys being healthy at the same time are probably slim though,

Mets LHP Steven Matz‘s stuff compares to Clayton Kershaw, “there is no doubt in my mind,” Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen told MetsBlog’s Robert Brender this past weekend in Los Angeles. “I hate to make those comparisons, but I just did. It’s so easy, so explosive coming out of his hand. He’s exciting to me,” Warthen […]

the team get a win. Grandy's injury looks like no big deal. He could probably use a break anyway. Sit him the rest of the road trip and see if he's ready to go vs Atlanta.

Lagares injury is really unfortunate. He's off to such a good start and hitting so well that you hate to see him get taken out of rhthym for a few weeks. Hopefully if he goes to the DL, it'll just be a mininum 15 day stint. Maybe we get really lucky and its day to day. I'd expect to see Kirk brought up in his place is Lagares goes to the DL.

I wasn't able to watch the game last night? How did Wheeler look? His line didn't look that great.

is just so frustrating. The kid looked to maybe be the odd man out in the OF entering this season and he accepted the challenge and responded by being the teams best hitter to start the season in addition to being the best glove only to go down to injury.

It's not like he collapsed. Beat out the d.p. and stayed in the game on first base for another pitch or two before signalling he was in some difficulty. A shame the way he came out of the gate his season, but hopefully not a major setback.

yikes. i have heard it all now

just a what if baseball discussion

In comment 11620609 ZGiants98 said:

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substitue Recker for Darnud like half way through the game just as D'Arnaud seems to be getting hot with the bat?

double switch so torrees could pitch more than the 7th since wheelers spot was due up in 8th