Looks like the donald hype can finally die

who

dorgan : 4/15/2014 10:12 am : link

died and left you in charge?

so you think Kevin Williams

YAJ2112 : 4/15/2014 10:13 am : link

will be playing for us for the next 4 years? If not, then Donald is still in play.

absolutely right

SamdaGiantsFan : 4/15/2014 10:14 am : link

the signing of a 33-year old, rotational defensive tackle will most definitely take defensive tackle out of the running in the 1st round. This is not the Kevin Williams of five years ago..

I thought Donald was your guy

Curtis in VA : 4/15/2014 10:14 am : link

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/sarcasm

SamdaGiantsFan : 4/15/2014 10:15 am : link

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Now we need threads about "not picking" Donald??

Jimmy Googs : 4/15/2014 10:17 am : link

this obsession is becoming scary...

delete your account please

Torrag : 4/15/2014 10:18 am : link

for all of our sakes....

if that's the case

UConn4523 : 4/15/2014 10:22 am : link

then we wouldn't select OL or WR or CB or LB or TE

Ohh boy...

Another day ...

Beer Man : 4/15/2014 10:23 am : link

another Donald thread. Now my day is complete (8->

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arcarsenal : 4/15/2014 10:23 am : link

Kevin Williams will have absolutely no bearing on whether or not we draft Donald either way.

No and

jeff57 : 4/15/2014 10:23 am : link

No.

ANGIOPLASTY

Canton : 4/15/2014 10:25 am : link

No

Williams

AcidTest : 4/15/2014 10:26 am : link

isn't even signed, but he wouldn't have any impact on the draft. None.

so lets see your saying that we wont draft a DL

Blue Blood : 4/15/2014 10:32 am : link

because lets see.. We lost Tuck, Joseph and Rogers..

and we have signed so far..

Ayers....

so that means we still possibly have two slots to fill...

And Williams at his age is the answer? and we would still have a spot to fill on the DL which is thin and hasnt had a pass rush of any type for two years..

so the Giants should ignore a DT who can improve the pitiful pass rush.. check.. ok...

yeah glad your not a GM..

I hope i am wrong

ANGPASS : 4/15/2014 10:33 am : link

But this signs point to offense. I want donald. I hope we still get him. I kind of hope evans and ebron and lewan are gone and the giants do draft donald that way no one could be mad at that. BUT, i really don't think they will take him. I know everyone is killing me on this but hearing that they are looking at kevin williams sounds like they really do like their DTs to clog holes. i think they are going to try to give eli everything they can in the draft to help him out. That is what it is looking like. But i hope they do that with every pick after taking donald at 12.

Kevin Williams has nothing to do with Aaron Donald

ImaGiant86 : 4/15/2014 10:35 am : link

Just as the Manningham signing has nothing to do with the potential of drafting a WR at #12.

It's called adding depth and allowing yourself the freedom to trust your board and grab the BPA.

RE: so lets see your saying that we wont draft a DL

ANGPASS : 4/15/2014 10:36 am : link

In comment 11621004 Blue Blood said:

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because lets see.. We lost Tuck, Joseph and Rogers..

and we have signed so far..

Ayers....

so that means we still possibly have two slots to fill...

And Williams at his age is the answer? and we would still have a spot to fill on the DL which is thin and hasnt had a pass rush of any type for two years..

so the Giants should ignore a DT who can improve the pitiful pass rush.. check.. ok...

yeah glad your not a GM..

when did i say they are not going to take a D lineman/. I just said that i don't think they will take donald at 12. I also said i feel like they will probably go offense with they first 3 picks. I though we have 7 total picks? Man, does everyone here know Aaron donald personally? Does he call you at home? I am just saying what i think they are probably going to do. It is not what i want them to do.

Kevin Williams

Dave in PA : 4/15/2014 10:38 am : link

Is a one year depth signing, if he signs at all. The Giants certainly will not base the future of our DT and defensive situation at all on any one particular FA signing, let alone a one year vet depth type deal. The Giants have enough holes on O and D that it wouldn't make sense to lock onto one target no matter what. Whoever is truly the best player available, outside of a QB, at 12 should be the pick. In all likelyhood it will come down to Donald, Lewan, Martin, Evans, Ebron or a trade down scenario.

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arcarsenal : 4/15/2014 10:42 am : link

Again.. Kevin Williams will not impact their decision to draft or not draft Donald one iota.

If they have him high on their board and he's there when they pick, there's a good chance they'll take him. If not, they won't. I don't know how highly the Giants have him ranked but the idea that adding Williams would take them out of the running for Donald is just silly.

I swear some of you must have been born yesterday

djm : 4/15/2014 10:43 am : link

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RE: RE: so lets see your saying that we wont draft a DL

Jon from PA : 4/15/2014 10:49 am : link

In comment 11621012 ANGPASS said:

Quote:

In comment 11621004 Blue Blood said:

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because lets see.. We lost Tuck, Joseph and Rogers..

and we have signed so far..

Ayers....

so that means we still possibly have two slots to fill...

And Williams at his age is the answer? and we would still have a spot to fill on the DL which is thin and hasnt had a pass rush of any type for two years..

so the Giants should ignore a DT who can improve the pitiful pass rush.. check.. ok...

yeah glad your not a GM..

when did i say they are not going to take a D lineman/. I just said that i don't think they will take donald at 12. I also said i feel like they will probably go offense with they first 3 picks. I though we have 7 total picks? Man, does everyone here know Aaron donald personally? Does he call you at home? I am just saying what i think they are probably going to do. It is not what i want them to do.

Really? because this:

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i don't want to hear about"you take best player available" if you belive that, you are a fool. this team is going offense 100% in the first round

doesn't sound like "i think they are probably going to" anything.

Also, Martin IS worth a #12 pick if the Giants decide to go OL

TheMick7 : 4/15/2014 10:54 am : link

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I know everyone thinks

ANGPASS : 4/15/2014 11:20 am : link

I'm crazy for this post. I am just getting annoyed that the giants might really not want donald. Not to confuse anyone here, i DO want donald. I know Williams is probably a 1 year deal and he is there for depth, but i know hankins is going to be the starter and replace joseph. The reason why i am banking on them going offense is because I don't and i am sure everyone else doesn't think the giants did enough on offense to make anyone feel like it is good. the offesive line still has a lot of questions and I don't think they are happy with what they have at WR. The TE position is completely shot. This is why i think they are going to go offense. To get younger and faster there because that was the reason the giants were terrible. Again, i hope we do get donald but something tells me they are going to load up on offense. I am actually surprised no one else thinks they giants are not going to go heavy on offense early and often.

The draft is not about next year

Jerry in DC : 4/15/2014 11:22 am : link

The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year

We lack

AnishPatel : 4/15/2014 11:22 am : link

talent on offense. Adding to the offense this year is would give this team a chance to compete one last time with some many things on the line, from Eli and Coughlins future, to other offensive players on the team. Everyone is basically on a 2 year deal or less starting from the coaching staff and Eli downward.

ANGPASS - You are getting killed for this thread

Mike from Ohio : 4/15/2014 11:25 am : link

because you said a potential signing of Williams means the Giants won't draft Donald, which makes absolutely zero sense. Vet signings on what would likely be a one year deal will not impact their draft strategy at all. Zero. You don't draft for this year, you draft for the next 3-5 years.

The Giants signed WRs and offensive linemen in FA, so why would you believe they would draft any of those positions if the signing of one DT would exclude that position from being drafted. By your logic the Giants will really only be looking at QBs, punters and kickers in the draft.

Believing the Giants will draft more heavily toward the offensive side of the ball is reasonable, but that is not what you posted.

RE: The draft is not about next year

BMac : 4/15/2014 11:31 am : link

In comment 11621110 Jerry in DC said:

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The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year
The draft is not about next year

Perhaps you mean that the draft is not about THIS year? It certainly has a bearing on next year and afterward.

Why would we want to draft the donald, anyway?

manh george : 4/15/2014 11:41 am : link

RE: ANGPASS - You are getting killed for this thread

ANGPASS : 4/15/2014 12:25 pm : link

In comment 11621114 Mike from Ohio said:

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because you said a potential signing of Williams means the Giants won't draft Donald, which makes absolutely zero sense. Vet signings on what would likely be a one year deal will not impact their draft strategy at all. Zero. You don't draft for this year, you draft for the next 3-5 years.

The Giants signed WRs and offensive linemen in FA, so why would you believe they would draft any of those positions if the signing of one DT would exclude that position from being drafted. By your logic the Giants will really only be looking at QBs, punters and kickers in the draft.

Believing the Giants will draft more heavily toward the offensive side of the ball is reasonable, but that is not what you posted.

I hear you. I know drafting is not for current circumstances. This is one of those times where you think before you click, submit.

I think your reasoning sucks

Andy in Halifax : 4/15/2014 12:32 pm : link

but I agree that we likely go offense early and often. The owner comes out and says the offense is broken and needs to be fixed, I can't imagine Reese wants to gamble in late round picks "fixing" the offense. If for no other reason than pleasing his boss, I think Reese has offense in mind in the top few rounds.

Kevin Williams has played a TON of football missing

PeterS : 4/15/2014 1:36 pm : link

ONLY 4 or 5 games in the past 11 seasons but he is 33. I have Aaron Donald pegged as our #1 pick. He brings an interior pass rush this defense hasn't seen in a long, long time. Look at what guys like Henry Melton and Geno Atkins have done.

Lol so a vet over the hill near minumum signing to be used sparingly

GmenDynasty : 4/15/2014 2:06 pm : link

For 20 some odd snaps like Rogers was last year will preclude us from signing a potential glaring BPA like Donald if hes still available at 12?

Uh no.

Ridiculous assumption, imo.

yatqb : 4/15/2014 2:34 pm : link

Williams plays the run-stuffing role that Joseph played and that the Giants HOPE that Hankins can take on. Williams would be insurance for that. Donald would play the 3 technique role that Jenkins plays. Right now Jenkins is the only 3-technique guy we have on the roster, unless we want to count on Kuhn to do that work. Not likely, as I see it. Donald would add a dimension at DT that we don't currently have.

This:

BlueLou : 4/15/2014 2:39 pm : link

Quote:

who
dorgan : 10:12 am : link : reply
died and left you in charge?

But actually I think an entire boatload of folks would have to die before this guy got "in charge."

Ridiculous assumption, imo.

yatqb : 4/15/2014 2:40 pm : link

Williams plays the run-stuffing role that Joseph played and that the Giants HOPE that Hankins can take on. Williams would be insurance for that. Donald would play the 3 technique role that Jenkins plays. Right now Jenkins is the only 3-technique guy we have on the roster, unless we want to count on Kuhn to do that work. Not likely, as I see it. Donald would add a dimension at DT that we don't currently have.

Ridiculous assumption, imo.

YAJ2112 : 4/15/2014 2:41 pm : link

Williams plays the run-stuffing role that Joseph played and that the Giants HOPE that Hankins can take on. Williams would be insurance for that. Donald would play the 3 technique role that Jenkins plays. Right now Jenkins is the only 3-technique guy we have on the roster, unless we want to count on Kuhn to do that work. Not likely, as I see it. Donald would add a dimension at DT that we don't currently have.

Signing Williams and Ayers for that matter to does not improve

wgenesis123 : 4/15/2014 2:50 pm : link

the Giants pass rush. Picking Donald at 12 does. Also dorgas was right. Who died and left you boss?

Donald

NJGiantFan84 : 4/15/2014 3:07 pm : link

is still in play, but I think there are 3 or 4 guys that could be available @ 12 ranked higher than Donald. If none of them are there, he could easily still be the pick. Just my opinion despite liking the guy.

There hasnt been a 3 tech with this type of pure pass rush talent to

GmenDynasty : 4/15/2014 5:18 pm : link

come out in a LONG time. In fact I'm still waiting for someone to provide me a DT with more impressive overall college numbers than DONALD in the last decade.

RE: Ridiculous assumption, imo.

yatqb : 4/15/2014 7:06 pm : link

In comment 11621521 YAJ2112 said:

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Williams plays the run-stuffing role that Joseph played and that the Giants HOPE that Hankins can take on. Williams would be insurance for that. Donald would play the 3 technique role that Jenkins plays. Right now Jenkins is the only 3-technique guy we have on the roster, unless we want to count on Kuhn to do that work. Not likely, as I see it. Donald would add a dimension at DT that we don't currently have.

Is that an echo I hear, YAJ???

I know that I hit enter twice, but did you also deliberately copy my post, and if so is it because you feel the same way?

RE: There hasnt been a 3 tech with this type of pure pass rush talent to

mrvax : 4/15/2014 7:24 pm : link

In comment 11621814 GmenDynasty said:

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come out in a LONG time. In fact I'm still waiting for someone to provide me a DT with more impressive overall college numbers than DONALD in the last decade.

=crickets=

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