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NFT: NHL UFA - Holmgren sets the bar

feelflows : 4/15/2014 10:58 am
that idiot in Philadelphia just gave Andrew Macdonald 6 years $30M...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=714875

That doesn't bode well for UFA prices this summer, if a mediocre turnover machine gets $5M/year.

Way to go Holmgren.. you absolutely suck.
5 mill a year  
KWhite2250 : 4/15/2014 11:01 am : link
To flop around on the ice and block shots. Good grief
well  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 11:02 am : link
someone asked me yesterday how much Matt Greene would cost.. this is why I was hesitant to guessing.

Have to figure $4+ now.
Girardi  
MookGiants : 4/15/2014 11:02 am : link
6 years, 33 million.

McDonagh- 6 years 28.2 million

Nice
mook  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 11:06 am : link
there you go. you're 100% right on those.

they were bargains then, but NOW look like even better bargains.

two things amaze me.. 1) AMAC thinks he's in the same class as McDonough and Girardi 2) Holmgren agrees!
Nice to know that our former defensemen  
pganut : 4/15/2014 11:15 am : link
Are contributing to the Flyers' cap woes going forward. These are more effective checks AMac and Streit ever delivered than when they wore blue and orange.
PG  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 11:19 am : link
that's right.. forgot about streit

streit at $5.25
AMAC at $5

that's $10.25M for 2 guys that couldn't crack the Isles top pairing by the time they were traded. that's weak lol
Let's avoid FA then.  
Ash : 4/15/2014 11:20 am : link
Buy out Richards - even if we have to take a step back, it's better than overpaying Stastny who'll get 8 million at this point.

God I hate Philly.
Subban  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2014 11:31 am : link
Will be expensive after next year.
99% of Rangers fans want Richards amnestied post playoffs  
raever : 4/15/2014 11:38 am : link
His contract would be an anchor on the teams flexibility if his cap recapture clause triggers.

That said stepping back isn't an option. The team is built to win now. If the club doesn't have an in house replacement option then a trade or FA acquisition is in order.
Subban  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 11:39 am : link
will get an insane amount.

they should trade him for pieces, they can get a haul for him.
..  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 11:49 am : link
I crap on Garth Snow a lot (duh ha).. but if you break this down:

MacDonald was drafted in 2006, 6th round
Isles paid him $550,000/year at the height of his contract

traded him to Philly after he demanded $5M/6years from the Isles.. got a 2nd & 3rd rounder for him

it doesn't make up for the Vanek debacle, but if I call him out on his errors, I have to at least mention when he gets it right.
Great comment from the BroadStreetHockey MB:  
pganut : 4/15/2014 1:04 pm : link
Quote:
Sometimes I wonder if Paul Holmgren is really Glen Sather in disguise.


I LOL'd.
considering Glen Sather just signed Dan Girardi for less than what  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2014 1:07 pm : link
Holmgren gave MacDonald, I'd say they would be better off if he were Sather in disguise.
doh....I mean McDonagh  
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Greg  
pganut : 4/15/2014 1:11 pm : link
Based on Slats' recent history, I'd still be glad if Holmgren = Sather...GFY that he made a smart move on Girardi, but that doesn't seem to overshadow some of the other doozies from Slats' liquor cabinet dealings.
I've said many times that I think he should go  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2014 1:12 pm : link
But I'd take him over Holmgren every time.
let's be honest  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 1:12 pm : link
Holmgren makes most GMs look like Ken Holland
And double d'oh...  
pganut : 4/15/2014 1:12 pm : link
...knew you meant McD, but seeing Girardi in your post f'ed me up. McD is the real deal.
Holmgren  
PaulN : 4/15/2014 2:16 pm : link
Is horrible, but I am very much for adding Statsny, he is much better then Richards, and better then any center we now have, plus he may be perfect with St Louis. We have no player ready to step in and be a top line center, if we keep Brassard as our third line center and Stepan as our second line center, then we are in great shape at center, you put them as your top two line center's, and you have a weakness at center, we got by with Richards because he had a good season, scoring 20 goals, you can not amnesty him and hope Miller works out, that is a good way to destroy the team and kill Miller, he simply is not ready to step inm, he can not even get into the lineup right now.
by the way, out of curiousity  
MetsAreBack : 4/15/2014 3:02 pm : link
why is Colorado letting Stastny walk? They've got a tremendous young team out there...

Echo thoughts from earlier... NYR are built to win now. You cant 'take a step back' this offseason after doing what they did to acquire MSL and re-sign all of these key pieces now in their prime.

Was hoping JT Miller could step in for Richards next season but barring some apparent needed maturing this offseason, he's not going to be a big part of this team's plans apparently.
Curious about the Avs too  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2014 3:05 pm : link
with Stastny

I thought he was one of the olympians who shouldn't have made it over Ryan or Saad and then I watched the games and thought he was absolutely right for the team and deserved to be there.

I'd sign him on my team if we're a player or two away.
MAB  
feelflows : 4/15/2014 3:06 pm : link
he is asking for a lot of money AND years for a 2 way forward. his skating is not great, and will decline more with age.

it's really the only concern with him, but it's a biggie.

5th pick  
Fish : 4/15/2014 10:36 pm : link
Overall. Not bad.

I expect us to be much better next year which would mean buffalo gets our 19th pick. Therefore keeping this 5 is nice. We will get a solid player.
Stastny  
stretch234 : 4/16/2014 5:00 am : link
Colorado can't keep him because they already have Ryan O'Reilly, Matt Duchene and Mathan McKinnon as C. All are younger than Stastny and McKinnon is 18 and the no 1 pick last year and are playing him as a winger

They simply can't afford to keep 4 offensive C
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