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“There's been no deterioration of his arm strength, there's been no lack of preparation and effort,” Kevin Gilbride said during an appearance on Pro Football Talk. “I think he's going to be fine as soon as they solidify the offensive line. They certainly made a move to do that by bringing in three interior offensive linemen and as soon as they get somebody that's going to be productive for them as an outside receiver -- Victor Cruz is terrific, but they need somebody that when they go match up, bump and run [and] go win for them.” So, about the contention that some folks in the Giants front office feel Manning may never regain the form that helped the organization to two Super Bowls? “I think that's, to be honest with you, ludicrous,” Gilbride continued. “I think he's going to be fine. ... He's going to throw the ball to the right person and he's going to throw it accurately.” |
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Sometimes the easiest explanations are the most fundamentally sound ones.
KGs offense needed an OL that could keep the QB upright, and receivers that were threats, run good routes, and catch the ball.
After game 8 of 2012 our OL were busted up circus dogs, even worse in '13; and our #1 couldnt stay healthy and or made business decisions(BTW: who WAS the last Giants receiver that ran a precise route?).
The lack of adequate replacements on OL and WR is on JR.
Most BBIers can agree with KG on his quote, like him or not; especially given it is what we all have been saying.
JR gambled on Snee and Baas and that backfired and he did not have a backup plan. I think we all know that here on BBI.
Nice to see Gilbride providing some level headedness, though. Something BBI has, for the most part, sorely been missing.
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To me, this says....prove it. Prove to us that if we bolster the problems around you, you will bounce back. If you do, we will extend you, but you need to prove it first. I have no other explanation as to why the Giants wouldn't have extended Eli at this point. That being said, I fully expect a bounce back because I saw last year as a perfect storm of things going wrong. I didn't see any diminished ability from Eli, just bad decision making and no time/bad WR's.
They can do it this summer, or during the season.
Its too early so say definitively that that they wont extend him.
Gilbride though? Its a combo of wrong place wrong time, and needing to switch things up a bit. I'm fine with it. Rarely is there a sole person responsible for everything, but Gilbride was the more replaceable, and gives us the opportunity to get a younger mind into the mix.
No? Then how do you know it did take place?
maybe Eli is in decline. but, man that super bowl was a lesson in how bad a good QB can look when given no time
Britt, almost all of that thread was people talking about what a bullshit article that was, no?
No? Then how do you know it did take place?
BS, Coughlin and Mara already noted how much input the coaching staff on roster decision. Coughlin used EA as a reference point.
Once again 09 draft was coaches choice.
Barden - Sullivan
Sintim - Coughlin and Sheridan
Beckum - KG & Pope
Beatty - KG & Coughlin
Coughlin is the only coach left from list. You think Mara is not aware.
That's the question you didn't answer.
Solid strategy to postulate a theory to fit your bias, then try to sell it as if you know something.
Have you met Thomas?
That's the question you didn't answer.
Solid strategy to postulate a theory to fit your bias, then try to sell it as if you know something.
Have you met Thomas?
You're right, Gilbride was hiding in the corner as Reese ran through the complex screaming who he was taking. Now that he is free he has found his voice.
That might be charitable.
10% Eli - forced too many balls and repeatedly not on same page with WRs
40 % OL - Below average before injuries. Diehl was retiring anyway, if giants had a good season and snee didn't get hurt he would be retired right now IMO. couldn't run block for the past few years.
10% RB - Couldn't block, catch or hold on to the ball, forget about running.
10% WRs - Not on the same page all year with eli. Quit on a lot of balls, carless mental mistakes and lack of separation
10% Gilbride - Other teams neutralized our pass rush but doing quick drops and getting rid of the ball in 2 seconds. with the O line and Running game struggling, gilbride only played conservative against the vikings by checking down. Not enough slant patterns and pick plays to get people open. almost forgot to mention he couldn't fix the redzone struggle for the last 3 years.
20% injuries - starting before the season with nicks not working with eli due to be overly cautious with his injuries, O line were completely destroyed and never had a consistant combo. David wilson was hurt before he could even show anything. Wrs were banged up all seaosn. Andre brown was hurt in preseason, we could of used him early on.
This is all my opinion of course from what i saw last year. Correct me if im wrong on anything above. There is now way anyone can say with a straight face that if eli had on average 4 seconds to throw ( like brady) that he can't complete more passes, throw more TD, Yards, and less picks. Eli, didn't forget how to play football. Also, Eli always does this, he plays his best when everyone thinks he is done. I do think the team still needs to add a lot on offense to help him out.
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Keep reading chooch. they said .... Eli didn't get protected at all.
10% Gilbride - Other teams neutralized our pass rush but doing quick drops and getting rid of the ball in 2 seconds. w
I've made this point in the past but you gave me a perfect opportunity to reinforce it.
Other teams neutralize our OUTSIDE pass rush by going to the the three step game. If the rush is coming from the A gaps, the three step game is completely ineffective. That's one of the reasons we had such a difficult time adjusting. We were giving up ground in the middle and that makes it impossible-to-difficult to run the three step passes that gets the ball out so quickly.
I'm not absolving KG, but the best option for countering pressure was not available to him. We were too weak in the middle to run the quick hitters.
So now he's saying what? That he was completely wrong about Randle last year? Or just saying stuff about Randle to motivate Nicks?
Don't care for that aspect of Gilbrides current spiel at all; and I was a big Gilbride fan. Best OC this team had in years, maybe ever.
What I like most about RR on that tape is he hands catches most often, and he's got very sneaky speed. He's not the quickest guy (although quick enough) but once he gets going he just blows by a few safeties giving over the top help.
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I thought until game 5 or 6 was the first time I remember seeing our offense change more. That's the 3 step drop. Prior to that, we kept trying to run our offense and Eli took a beating.
But what other options could have been done mid season like that? If the goal is to save Eli from getting the shit kicked out of him, then try running screens. It may not work, but maybe you catch DL players being overly aggressive. X or Z hot it's quick set and throw, so maybe it works maybe it doesn't but at least Eli isn't getting knocked around.
What other things could you do when the ship is sinking like that? When Plax shot himself, we tried putting Hixon at X, and that didn't work out. When everything does south like that mid season, how many options are left?
Have you ever coached a team like that?