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Matt Flynn Re-Signs with Packers

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/15/2014 2:14 pm
fyi
We was  
JonC : 4/15/2014 2:16 pm : link
leveraged.
It's because Curtis typed in caps the other day.  
GiantFilthy : 4/15/2014 2:17 pm : link
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FIRE RIESS  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/15/2014 2:18 pm : link
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we let him walk  
Jon from PA : 4/15/2014 2:18 pm : link
it just shows the confidence level the Giants have in Nassib
RE: we let him walk  
RC02XX : 4/15/2014 2:19 pm : link
In comment 11621473 Jon from PA said:
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it just shows the confidence level the Giants have in Nassib


Or that we're drafting Bridgewater with our 12th pick.
RE: we let him walk  
barens : 4/15/2014 2:19 pm : link
In comment 11621473 Jon from PA said:
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it just shows the confidence level the Giants have in Nassib


And don't forget Painter...
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Klaatu : 4/15/2014 2:20 pm : link
"YES!" - Josh Freeman.
McAdoo....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 4/15/2014 2:26 pm : link
....is having an amazing amount of influence on our organization. Just look at all the former Packers lining up to rejoin him.
What former Packers do the Giants need/want exactly?  
Riggies : 4/15/2014 2:28 pm : link
What ones are they missing out on?

Other than the mighty Flynn, obviously.
Or that the Packers just  
Bobby Epps : 4/15/2014 2:28 pm : link
didn't want to lose him.

A coincidence that after the news report that he was visiting the Giants today, the visit is cancelled and the Packers sign him?
bitch!  
Pete from Woodstock : 4/15/2014 2:32 pm : link
. we wanted Freeman anyway
damn Coughlin asshole tax  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2014 2:33 pm : link
strikes again
Rather have Carr  
Carl in CT : 4/15/2014 2:36 pm : link
Then Bridgewater.
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arcarsenal : 4/15/2014 2:53 pm : link
Does Reece have ANY plan at all this offseason?
The Giants investigate any player available they believe can help them  
Torrag : 4/15/2014 2:57 pm : link
That seems like a good plan to me.
may have been a different  
Andy in Boston : 4/15/2014 3:42 pm : link
story if we didn't sign Painter. That may have been a mistake.
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arcarsenal : 4/15/2014 3:45 pm : link
Being used as leverage is a good plan? Reece got played like a game of craps. Thinks bc MacAdoo is here now every ex Packer will run here to sign. Maybe he thinks Rogers is coming next LOL
Painter is on a 1 year deal  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2014 3:47 pm : link
with minimal dead money if he gets cut... he isn't preventing us from upgrading the backup QB spot
oh, well  
aquidneck : 4/15/2014 3:55 pm : link
More confidence in Flynn than in Freeman, but Freeman or someone will be signed before training camp as others have said.

Just don't trust Freeman to be a professional. Painter more responsible than him.

OTOH, in a perfect world the guy has major upside. Could we help another guy resurect his career like we did with Collins?
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RC02XX : 4/15/2014 3:58 pm : link
Is anyone really heartbroken that we didn't sign Flynn? I understand that Painter isn't really the greatest option as a backup QB, but aside from one "historic" game against the 23rd ranked Lions defense in 2011, what has Flynn done other than get injured and play terribly in Seattle and Oakland? Flynn's been riding that one game to multiple lucrative contracts while showing nothing as a starting caliber QB.
Reese  
AnyoneButPhilly : 4/15/2014 4:01 pm : link
has drafted 3 qbs so far that haven't been worth a crap. Of the 3 guys drafted (Woodson, Bomar, NAssib) I don't think a single one of them has started a single game as the second qb
good point  
YAJ2112 : 4/15/2014 4:02 pm : link
given the high success rate of QBs drafted after round 3, it's shocking that Reese continues to fail to pick one that is worth a damn.
I don't get it.  
Enoch : 4/15/2014 4:06 pm : link
What harm is done by a player coming in for a visit with the Giants as a ploy to get the team he really wants to sign with to offer more?
RE: good point  
John in CharlotteNC : 4/15/2014 4:31 pm : link
In comment 11621684 YAJ2112 said:
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given the high success rate of QBs drafted after round 3, it's shocking that Reese continues to fail to pick one that is worth a damn.


Brady
Brunell
Gannon
Brad Johnson
Theisman
Starr
Staubach
Rypien

Not a bad list...
It's not that they haven't started a game or become stars or even  
Riggies : 4/15/2014 4:52 pm : link
just decent trade bait.

Not a one of the QBs the Giants have tried to develop have stuck on any roster, Giant or otherwise, as a primary back-up for any even moderate amount of time. Only Nassib, after the biggest investment, really even made a roster as almost a non-entity as a third QB for any decent time.

Given the number they've run through under this regime, you'd figure at least one would have a season or two in somewhere.
RE: RE: good point  
Enoch : 4/15/2014 5:41 pm : link
In comment 11621744 John in CharlotteNC said:
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In comment 11621684 YAJ2112 said:


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given the high success rate of QBs drafted after round 3, it's shocking that Reese continues to fail to pick one that is worth a damn.



Brady
Brunell
Gannon
Brad Johnson
Theisman
Starr
Staubach
Rypien

Not a bad list...


When you also include the hundreds of "Guy you've never heard of unless he played for your favorite college team" names that were taken in between those 8 successes over a 50+ year period, it's a pretty terrible list.
RE: RE: RE: good point  
Dylan fan : 4/15/2014 9:51 pm : link
In comment 11621844 Enoch said:
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In comment 11621744 John in CharlotteNC said:


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In comment 11621684 YAJ2112 said:


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given the high success rate of QBs drafted after round 3, it's shocking that Reese continues to fail to pick one that is worth a damn.



Brady
Brunell
Gannon
Brad Johnson
Theisman
Starr
Staubach
Rypien

Not a bad list...



When you also include the hundreds of "Guy you've never heard of unless he played for your favorite college team" names that were taken in between those 8 successes over a 50+ year period, it's a pretty terrible list.

There were 315 QBs drafted after round 3 since 1967. I've heard of 83 of them, including those already mentioned. 40 of those were starters for at least a year &/or had fairly long careers as backups. 1 or 2 of them might have even made a Pro Bowl once.
Just a word about  
RetroJint : 4/15/2014 10:21 pm : link
McCoattails and this started with the NYC media speculation surrounding his signing and the gaggle of Packers who would follow him to the Giants: answer -0. Well then it moved to Mc & the Giants weren't really interested. Except PS in Flynn's case they were. And McAdoo's influence with Flynn was Elvis Costello's Less Than Zero.
"McCoattails" is about as witty as "Killdrive."  
Riggies : 4/16/2014 12:40 am : link
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RE: good point  
AnyoneButPhilly : 4/16/2014 7:09 am : link
In comment 11621684 YAJ2112 said:
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given the high success rate of QBs drafted after round 3, it's shocking that Reese continues to fail to pick one that is worth a damn.


While nobody expects Reese to pull a Tom Brady out of the fifth round, I think its reasonable to expect him to find someone good enough to play behind a qb whose never missed a game
anyone but philly  
aquidneck : 4/16/2014 7:20 am : link
Check out the stat Dylan fan posted just above you. QBs drafted after round 3 have a 1 in 4 chance at an NFL career. We've drafted 3 under Reese.
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jcn56 : 4/16/2014 7:31 am : link
In comment 11622295 Riggies said:
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It's actually not, which is really sad.

And the fact that we didn't sign ex-Packers isn't an indictment of McAdoo, it's just another reminder that sportswriters work with baseless speculation most of the time and aren't any better at their jobs than the random BBI poster would be.
RE: anyone but philly  
jcn56 : 4/16/2014 7:33 am : link
In comment 11622354 aquidneck said:
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Check out the stat Dylan fan posted just above you. QBs drafted after round 3 have a 1 in 4 chance at an NFL career. We've drafted 3 under Reese.


You called him eyeballing a list of 350 names and recognizing 83 a stat? You must be an elementary school math teacher.
yeah, it's a stat  
aquidneck : 4/16/2014 7:40 am : link
You're welcome to eyeball the same list and report back your numbers.
RE: yeah, it's a stat  
jcn56 : 4/16/2014 7:43 am : link
In comment 11622361 aquidneck said:
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You're welcome to eyeball the same list and report back your numbers.


Is that how this works? Someone makes up unquantifiable bullshit, and then says 'well, you guys prove me wrong'?

I take it back, elementary school science teacher is now my pick.
it's not unwuantifiable  
aquidneck : 4/16/2014 7:47 am : link
83 is a number. Quantified.

Hey, it's not supposed to be science, but pretty sure anyone looking at a similar list will come up with similar numbers. It's OK to disagree and you're free to post alternate "research" should you be so inclined.
83 and 351 are certainly numbers  
jcn56 : 4/16/2014 7:50 am : link
'recognizable' on the other hand, would get you laughed out of a lot of places (including BBI), especially if you wanted to try and pass it off as some sort of statistic.
I been here with handle or another since 1995  
aquidneck : 4/16/2014 7:51 am : link
Not gonna get laughed out easily.
Oh, so you're a dupe too  
jcn56 : 4/16/2014 7:54 am : link
Great job making your case. Elementary schools don't have legal studies teachers, do they?
jcn  
aquidneck : 4/16/2014 7:56 am : link
Someone seems to want to pick a fight this morning.

It isn't me.
Flynn would have been a replacement for Painter  
GeofromNJ : 4/16/2014 9:51 am : link
not a replacement for either Manning or Nassib. I don't see the Giants trading Nassib or drafting a quarterback (unless Bortles is available on the 2nd round, which is highly unlikely). And I don't the Giants having any interest in either Manziel or Bridgewater unless one is available on say the 4th round, which is also highly unlikely.
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