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Wonderlic scores...Nassib the Genius

Cro-4sb : 4/17/2014 10:54 am
Believe it or not Nassib scored the highest wonderlic on the Gmen...41....Eli 39.....our newbie Freeman 27.....
In comparison Payton 28, Marino and Bradshaw a 15....Brady a 33...Vince Young a 6 lol

Not an exact science for QB success but intersesting
He's SMAAT, not like people say.  
yatqb : 4/17/2014 10:57 am : link
Ah, Fredo, you broke my heart!
Your wonderlic score  
Chef : 4/17/2014 10:57 am : link
does not mean you can or can't throw a football well.
RE: Your wonderlic score  
Curtis in VA : 4/17/2014 10:59 am : link
In comment 11624689 Chef said:
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does not mean you can or can't throw a football well.


Neither does running for your life every time you snap the ball behind an utterly pathetic offensive line.

Nobody on this board knows anything at all about Nassib. What he is or what he will be.

Bench Eli. Start Lorenzen.
Chef  
NYGmen58 : 4/17/2014 11:01 am : link
Nassib can and does throw a football well.

That's not/never has been the concern with him, although he does need to improve on his "touch passes" instead of throwing a 90 mph fastball everytime.

His issue is moving from an uptempo offense at Cuse to more of a pro offense with more play action, reading coverages, and going through his progressions.

Well, Nassib is no Pat McInally (50 out of 50).  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/17/2014 11:03 am : link
He's not even a Ryan Fitzpatrick (48); but he's plenty smart. I have no idea whether he can play.

Speaking of McInally's perfect 50...
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McInally says then-New York Giants general manager George Young told him that his high score probably spooked a few teams: "He told me, 'That may have cost you a few rounds in the draft because we don't like extremes. We don't want them too dumb and we sure as hell don't want them too smart.' "
He will of had a complete off season  
Headhunter : 4/17/2014 11:04 am : link
OTA's Mini-Camp, Daily workouts. I think his true potential
is more likely to be seen this summer than last summer. Only an idiot would disagree
How long did it take for Eli  
BurlyMan : 4/17/2014 11:04 am : link
to develop into a championship player? Was it worth the wait? You would think Giants fans of all people would be scosh more savvy than the mouth breathers on TV and radio.
Go look at giants drafting history for last 10 years  
Chaka : 4/17/2014 11:07 am : link
lot of high wonderlics. they like hiqh iq

RE: Go look at giants drafting history for last 10 years  
Mad Mike : 4/17/2014 11:09 am : link
Cro-4sb said:
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Not an exact science for QB success but intersesting

I don't think it could reasonably be called an inexact science.
Nassib was never a top tier talent.  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/17/2014 11:11 am : link
Period end of story.

Reese made a needless trade up for am guy who as it seems now most likely may never take a live snap for them in a regular season game.

The reason I like reading his reports  
Lionhart28 : 4/17/2014 11:13 am : link
is because he isn't afraid to go against the grain. He does his film study and tells you what he thinks, popular opinion be damned. He is also extremely responsive if you e-mail him with questions or thoughts on players/teams.
HH is see what you did there  
gtt350 : 4/17/2014 11:15 am : link
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RE: Nassib was never a top tier talent.  
Kyle : 4/17/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11624732 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Period end of story.

Reese made a needless trade up for am guy who as it seems now most likely may never take a live snap for them in a regular season game.


Wasting multiple picks and a roster spot will be his legacy.
gtt350  
Headhunter : 4/17/2014 11:21 am : link
the trap is set, but I put a big neon sign alerting you to it, if someone steps into it, well.......
Period.  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/17/2014 11:21 am : link
End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.

I got a 38  
Doomster : 4/17/2014 11:58 am : link
http://footballiqscore.com/quiz/full-quiz/take?quizkey=cf4e852e6af4e08567aba7a8de9adecc
RE: Period.  
Mad Mike : 4/17/2014 12:16 pm : link
In comment 11624762 NJGiantFan84 said:
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End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.

What part of "period" did you not understand?
Don't mind this LauderdaleMatty clown  
BigBlueShock : 4/17/2014 12:34 pm : link
He's getting dangerously close to troll level, if not already surpassing it. The guy just will not shut the hell up about the Nassib pick. It's a freaking joke at this point. He seems to think we missed out on Harry Carson because of it, and won't just let it go. Annoying as fuck that he has to ruin every thread with his amateur bullshit
RE: Chef  
DonnieD89 : 4/17/2014 12:41 pm : link
In comment 11624705 NYGmen58 said:
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Nassib can and does throw a football well.

That's not/never has been the concern with him, although he does need to improve on his "touch passes" instead of throwing a 90 mph fastball everytime.

His issue is moving from an uptempo offense at Cuse to more of a pro offense with more play action, reading coverages, and going through his progressions.


That is any interesting thing you said about an uptempo offense. If I recall, McAdoo did describe a more uptempo offense. I think the pickup of Freeman is not a reflexion of Nassib at all. This is somewhat of another new offensive system Nassib may have to learn in the McAdoo system,but Nassib may fit better in the new system.
RE: Period.  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/17/2014 12:51 pm : link
In comment 11624762 NJGiantFan84 said:
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End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.


I said he was not a top tier talent. That's my opinion and the opinion of every GM in the NFL as he went in the 4th round. I define top tier talent as a 1st round pick. Maybe a 2nd.

I did not say he wouldn't be able to make it in the NFL or not but considering he was beaten out by Painter I would suggest that proves my point.

Please show me where I stated emphatically where I thought his career was going because I reread my statement and missed it.
RE: RE: Period.  
Curtis in VA : 4/17/2014 1:10 pm : link
In comment 11624944 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11624762 NJGiantFan84 said:


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End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.




I said he was not a top tier talent. That's my opinion and the opinion of every GM in the NFL as he went in the 4th round. I define top tier talent as a 1st round pick. Maybe a 2nd.

I did not say he wouldn't be able to make it in the NFL or not but considering he was beaten out by Painter I would suggest that proves my point.

Please show me where I stated emphatically where I thought his career was going because I reread my statement and missed it.


Every GM in the NFL thought Brady was not a top tier talent as well.

Marc Bulger, yeah that guy sucked.
Kurt Warner - total loser.
Matt Hasselbeck - worthless.
Trent Green - wasted 8th round draft pick
Mark Brunell - meh.

Wouldnt want any of those guys backing up Eli.

But then we have winners, true top tier talent like, oh...
Tim Tebow
Mark Sanchez
JaMarcus Russell
Matt Leinart
Akili Smith
Ryan Leaf

Great logic there Matty  
Headhunter : 4/17/2014 1:16 pm : link
I hope he turns out like Nick Foles drafted in the 3rd round(must not be any good) or Russel Wilson drafted in the 3rd round(must no be any good) because all GM's passed on them
in the first round
I guess Jerry Reese is not as smart as you Matty, and all the other  
Curtis in VA : 4/17/2014 1:34 pm : link
GM's in the league (and on BBI) so congratulations. He thought Nassib had 2nd round talent.

Q: You said that you have been trying to develop a young quarterback for years and you actively moved up to get this guy…

Reese: Well, the value was there. He was just too much value. To be honest, we thought the kid would probably get picked in the second round over there and we over here in the fourth round and he’s still on the board so it just makes sense for us to take the value.

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I define top tier talent as a 1st round pick. Maybe a 2nd  
Headhunter : 4/17/2014 1:44 pm : link
Poor Nick Foles and Russel Wilson, they will never be elite to Matty
RE: RE: Period.  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/17/2014 1:50 pm : link
In comment 11624944 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11624762 NJGiantFan84 said:


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End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.




I said he was not a top tier talent. That's my opinion and the opinion of every GM in the NFL as he went in the 4th round. I define top tier talent as a 1st round pick. Maybe a 2nd.

I did not say he wouldn't be able to make it in the NFL or not but considering he was beaten out by Painter I would suggest that proves my point.

Please show me where I stated emphatically where I thought his career was going because I reread my statement and missed it.


My mistake. I misunderstood your point.
RE: RE: RE: Period.  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/17/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11625079 NJGiantFan84 said:
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In comment 11624944 LauderdaleMatty said:


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In comment 11624762 NJGiantFan84 said:


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End of story??? The guy has been in the leage for 1 whole season. That story is not even close to ending. We have no idea what he will or will not be yet.




I said he was not a top tier talent. That's my opinion and the opinion of every GM in the NFL as he went in the 4th round. I define top tier talent as a 1st round pick. Maybe a 2nd.

I did not say he wouldn't be able to make it in the NFL or not but considering he was beaten out by Painter I would suggest that proves my point.

Please show me where I stated emphatically where I thought his career was going because I reread my statement and missed it.



My mistake. I misunderstood your point.


No problem, I just think because of a lot of pre draft hype people think the Giants got some huge steal. Heck half the first round QBs fail if not more. Draft pick made no sense at the time and less now.
RE: I got a 38  
Joeguido : 4/17/2014 2:32 pm : link
In comment 11624850 Doomster said:
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http://footballiqscore.com/quiz/full-quiz/take?quizkey=cf4e852e6af4e08567aba7a8de9adecc


Fun Quiz....I scored a 42 and have never played football in my life but I'm decent in math.
RE: Well, Nassib is no Pat McInally (50 out of 50).  
muhajir : 4/17/2014 2:55 pm : link
In comment 11624711 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's not even a Ryan Fitzpatrick (48); but he's plenty smart. I have no idea whether he can play.

Speaking of McInally's perfect 50...


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McInally says then-New York Giants general manager George Young told him that his high score probably spooked a few teams: "He told me, 'That may have cost you a few rounds in the draft because we don't like extremes. We don't want them too dumb and we sure as hell don't want them too smart.' "



What's the issue with being too smart?
Knocking the Nassib pick  
Randy in CT : 4/17/2014 2:55 pm : link
is an official litmus test here at BBI. It says a lot about you.
Don't be shy, Randy, please explain all the negative things it says  
Kyle : 4/17/2014 3:07 pm : link
about the person.
Nassib has played in, what, 1 quarter of 1 preseason game?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/17/2014 3:19 pm : link
We should all chill out.
Muhajir,  
Blackbeard : 4/17/2014 6:51 pm : link
What is the issue with being too smart?

I suspect that Owners, GMs and Coaches don't like to have players that are smarter then themselves.
RE: Don't be shy, Randy, please explain all the negative things it says  
Randy in CT : 4/17/2014 7:08 pm : link
In comment 11625328 Kyle said:
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about the person.
It says you are a know-it-all, whiny, premature evaluating cock-fucking monkey-whore.

The guy has played 14 seconds in the NFL and everyone slams the pick. He may be a flop and he may turn out to be OK. But defining the team's drafting abilities and also Nassib's abilities at this point based on his being picked in the 4th round or on his demonstrated, limited play at this point is stupid with a capital fuck you.
Muhajir  
Milton : 4/17/2014 7:40 pm : link
They're afraid that smart guys will be rebellious; that they will question their instructions, the game plan, etc.
Randy in CT.  
Blackbeard : 4/18/2014 4:19 pm : link
adds so much class to this site.

Is it the cheap whiskey?
Cock-Fucking Monkey-Whore sounds like a really racist porno  
Kyle : 4/18/2014 4:36 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2014 4:49 pm : link
Why do we care about Shawn Payton's Wonderlick?
RE: RE: Well, Nassib is no Pat McInally (50 out of 50).  
BlackLight : 4/18/2014 5:47 pm : link
In comment 11625296 muhajir said:
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In comment 11624711 Big Blue Blogger said:


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He's not even a Ryan Fitzpatrick (48); but he's plenty smart. I have no idea whether he can play.

Speaking of McInally's perfect 50...


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McInally says then-New York Giants general manager George Young told him that his high score probably spooked a few teams: "He told me, 'That may have cost you a few rounds in the draft because we don't like extremes. We don't want them too dumb and we sure as hell don't want them too smart.' "





What's the issue with being too smart?


Generally speaking, very intelligent/bright people tend to approach problem solving very analytically - deconstructing the problem and solving it a piece at a time, planning all their moves well in advance, exercising a great deal of control through the entire process.

In a game as fast-paced and dynamic as football, this is not a good thing. You simply don't have time to solve problems that way during a course of a game and a play. You need to operate instinctively and intuitively - and not let your inner professor get in the way. And it's a not easy for excessively intelligent people to flip the switch and go from one mode of thinking to another.
ok sonny  
alligatorpie : 4/18/2014 5:52 pm : link
here is what we want you to do:

go out and stand there with your arm stretched out, staring down way about 40 yards, while that big 320lb guy over there runs at you and tries to kill you, but don't mind him, just throw this oblong ball, and focus reeeaaly hard, cause the guy who catches it will be running all zig zaggy
RE: RE: RE: Well, Nassib is no Pat McInally (50 out of 50).  
Jimmy Googs : 4/18/2014 5:56 pm : link
In comment 11627470 BlackLight said:
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What's the issue with being too smart?



Generally speaking, very intelligent/bright people tend to approach problem solving very analytically - deconstructing the problem and solving it a piece at a time, planning all their moves well in advance, exercising a great deal of control through the entire process.

In a game as fast-paced and dynamic as football, this is not a good thing. You simply don't have time to solve problems that way during a course of a game and a play. You need to operate instinctively and intuitively - and not let your inner professor get in the way. And it's a not easy for excessively intelligent people to flip the switch and go from one mode of thinking to another.


This could be the biggest load of crap I have ever read on this site. Congratulations because its not easy to earn such an honor on BBI...
stupid draft pick  
mdc1 : 4/18/2014 6:19 pm : link
. could not even take Painters job. Most high rated college QBs should be at least capable of beating out the backup. That should tell you something.
Black Light  
Milton : 4/18/2014 7:02 pm : link
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Generally speaking, very intelligent/bright people tend to approach problem solving very analytically - deconstructing the problem and solving it a piece at a time, planning all their moves well in advance, exercising a great deal of control through the entire process.

In a game as fast-paced and dynamic as football, this is not a good thing. You simply don't have time to solve problems that way during a course of a game and a play. You need to operate instinctively and intuitively - and not let your inner professor get in the way. And it's a not easy for excessively intelligent people to flip the switch and go from one mode of thinking to another.
That's not it at all. Smart people are no less likely to be instinctive than less smart people and they are more likely to be able to process things instantaneously.

It's what I said in my earlier comment: coaches don't like people questioning their authority/instructions and really smart people tend to question things more (especially if they believe they are smarter than the coaches who are instructing them).
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