Kiper's latest 2 rd mock has us taking Ebron in 1st,

that it won't be Ebron.

A diva TE that doesn't block at 12th overall. I'm sure I would convince myself that he's going to be great after a week, but man would it piss me off.

1) Doesnt Block

2) Wasnt asked to Block

3) Inconsistent Blocking

Every report I have read says things like he is a willing blocker that needs work..

but then again, most don't get taken in the top 15.

and the C at #43 if no WR suits their needs.

what grade did Kiper give himself for his mock draft?

in the 2nd? Sign me up and I would even take Ebron to get that.

With those two picks.

Also to the people calling Ebron a diva. What is the reasoning for it? I heard nothing about it during the season. Have only started reading about it lately which I can't believe anything coming out right now. Teams put out so much misinformation.

for ensuring we don't take Ebron or Su'a Filo!

be stunned if Xavier lasts until 43. Don't want Ebron, but he's not a remote thrower. The guy who really scares me is Hageman. Jerry could become entranced with his potential, and overlook all his inconsistency and emotional baggage. He is the classic "boom or bust" prospect we need to stop drafting, at least until late on day three. Hageman is Marvin Austin, the sequel. We can't take a chance the sequel is as bad as the original.

and, IIRC, he blocked well when he wanted to.

only time I can remember Kiper being right with the Giants pick was Eric Dorsey.

In comment 11624833 Lionhart28 said:

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A diva TE that doesn't block at 12th overall. I'm sure I would convince myself that he's going to be great after a week, but man would it piss me off.

He doesn't catch either. But he sure looks pretty running around out there.

In comment 11624877 Eric from BBI said:

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only time I can remember Kiper being right with the Giants pick was Eric Dorsey.

So you're saying, he's due?

In comment 11624877 Eric from BBI said:

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only time I can remember Kiper being right with the Giants pick was Eric Dorsey.

I seem to recall him being right with Derek Brown too.

Definitely a remote throwing.!!

don't want a small 245 LB TE that doesn't block and is useless in the run game @12....If the Giants feel they need an offensive weapon trade up for Mike Evans or sit back and take either:

1 a) A Donald
1 b) T Lewan or Z Martin

for the Giants to take Zack Martin and then have the Hair give them a C- because they could have picked up both Ebron and Zack Martin's clone in the sixth.

They can target Bitonio or Kouandijo in the 2nd round for those that think we need to go OL early...with both rated slightly less then T Lewan or Z Martin

i'd like Donald or Martin.

I wish they would, or at least, him or Lewan, but I think BBI has raised Martins draft stock more than it is in reality. He'll prolly go late teens, not 12. Of course, what the hell do I know

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I thnk Ebron is the only near blue chipper the Giants have a shot at. Watch the film, the kid can block.

In comment 11624938 Jim in Forest Hills said:

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I thnk Ebron is the only near blue chipper the Giants have a shot at. Watch the film, the kid can block.

I agree Jim. He's no mauler, but I've seen him block plenty on tape and in many instances I've seen him do a decent job. He may not like to block, but that doesn't mean he can't or won't.

Tom Quinn comparison:
:-):-)

It cant be MMartin at OC, can it?

I hoping that there is no way that the Giants will pass up on drafting Aaron Donald in the first round, Donald is a no brainer. As for the second round, I can see the Giants drafting the best TE on the board. I know that many don't agree with me, but I feel that drafting C.J. Fiedorowicz in round two is a good move for the Giants. Jenkins and Niklas both have injuries concerns, Jenkins don't fit the Giants schemes. Amaro has maturity and attitude questions and is one dimensional receiving tight end. Don't hope and wait for Fiedorowicz in the third round because he will be gone by then.

In comment 11624903 geelabee said:

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Definitely a remote throwing.!! don't want a small 245 LB TE that doesn't block and is useless in the run game @12....If the Giants feel they need an offensive weapon trade up for Mike Evans or sit back and take either: 1 a) A Donald 1 b) T Lewan or Z Martin

You don't want a small TE, but your top choice is a small DT? Makes sense.

and either one of the WR's, Tuitt or Easley or Bitonio or Cyrus in the second.

In comment 11625509 Phil in LA said:

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and either one of the WR's, Tuitt or Easley or Bitonio or Cyrus in the second.

Martin not high enough value compared to Donald or Marqise Lee.

Easley with that injury history at 43 with all the other talent that would be sitting there?? No way.

You think 12 is high for Martin but not for Lee? I like Lee a lot but every mock is have seen has Martin going before Lee.

Martin is a perfect Giant fit, and if they don't fix the OL it doesn't matter what they do at WR. And I like Donald, but fixing the OL is job one and fixing the pass rush is job 2.

this one would really divide BBI....Cowgirls trade up to 10 for Donald and the Giants stay put and pick Lewan.
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In comment 11625543 Wonderphil11 said:

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this one would really divide BBI....Cowgirls trade up to 10 for Donald and the Giants stay put and pick Lewan. Link - ( New Window )

Good! Lewan can knock Donald on his ass. Don't give a shit where Donald goes. If the Giants take Donald then fine, but it is not going to help Eli in the red zone or start up the run game or give Eli more time to pass.

In comment 11624877 Eric from BBI said:

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only time I can remember Kiper being right with the Giants pick was Eric Dorsey.

But it's much harder to get the 15-30 picks than the 1-15 picks right

Nowhere close. He is willing to take his blocking to another level and can catch and run better then most starting TE's now.

I just think with the Giants bringing in Kevin Williams and bringing back Patterson, they will be fine going into the season at DT IF Williams is signed. Take away Donald. I dont see him as 12th pick anyway. I dont get the hype. Most mocks have him in the second half of the first Rd.

We need a WR and a TE. Those are a must.

In comment 11624833 Lionhart28 said:

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A diva TE that doesn't block at 12th overall. I'm sure I would convince myself that he's going to be great after a week, but man would it piss me off.

Could it be that Pass Catching is more important in west coast offense than in our old offense ?

Just a thought since its predicated on getting the ball out quickly. . .

wish we could get with the 2010s in technology around here so I can edit my posts...


Meant Pass Catching TE vs Blocking

the fanboys are pumping for a first rounder from Notre Dame.

In comment 11625706 HomerJones45 said:

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the fanboys are pumping for a first rounder from Notre Dame.

I don't know from what i am hearing its either Ebron from a pass TE perspective is a pretty damn infrequent appearance... that said, i have also heard is overrated even in pass catching ...

Its hard to really see through all the noise myself.

Then we are definitely taking a LBer. He has only been predicting LBers for us 12 years now....LOL