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Price getting MURKED.

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In comment 11625930 MookGiants said:

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In comment 11625916 PaulN said: Quote: The horrible fielder One good play doesnt change the fact that he's a well below average defensive player at this point

Do you EVER say anything positive dude? You are one miserable kid.

saying Jeter made a great play wasn't positive?

7-1

End of the 6th.

Smacked the hell out of Price.

the Yanks are giving up less than 3 runs a game.

the Rays finally have a shit year. Weak pitching rotation, hitting is meh

8-1

hitting would be huge. He looked shot in spring training and early but maybe he's getting into a groove and can be a decent player, would really change the lineup

I wasn't sure CC was coming back out for this inning. 8-2.

In comment 11626096 MookGiants said:

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hitting would be huge. He looked shot in spring training and early but maybe he's getting into a groove and can be a decent player, would really change the lineup

How did CC look today, Mook?

at 90

still doesn't have anywhere near the stuff he used to have and wont be a top of the rotation pitcher. Everyone can see that except for you apparently

In comment 11626113 MookGiants said:

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still doesn't have anywhere near the stuff he used to have and wont be a top of the rotation pitcher. Everyone can see that except for you apparently

Hmmm I said he had to become more of a pitcher than thrower like Mussina did here in his late career. I never said hed be a dominant ace and throw 95+ again . But yeah keep revising history.

For once in your life stop being so damn miserable and be a little more positive with the way you speak and treat others

He'll need almost 100 pitches to get in 6 good innings even on a better night like tonight. Looks like he'll get in 7 tonight with 106 pitches or so. If Joe sends him out for the 8th he's crazy.

CC is not an "ace" anymore. He'll be a game manager. Tonight was good but I'm not sure how much better it's going to get.

That said, nice job by him tonight.

100% said he looked like his old self again, so now you're a fucking liar. Mike Mussina is the exception to the rule. Guys who lose 5 mph off of their fastball usually don't even come close to returning to their old form.

who've kept on winning with reduced stuff. Moose was a recent example, but the weird thing about CC if there have not been a bunch of big lefties who lost their velo in their early 30s without a bad arm injury.

finally clocked one.

batter.

... and K's the next guy.

and being dominant are two different things. And CC's stuff has fallen off of a cliff. He was a power pitcher who now has no power. Lot harder for him to make the adjustments than it is guys who don't rely on fastball velocity nearly as much as he does when they lose some stuff. His changeup has always been a great pitch for him but now he doesn't have near the separation between that and his fastball for it to be really effective.

Power pitchers who have their stuff fall off of a cliff after being dominant rarely get it together and become dominant again or even close to it. Of course its possible, anything is possible, but its very unlikely and pointing to what Mussina did who was not anywhere near the power pitcher that CC was to begin with is stupid.

Dellin got squeezed on the first batter.

... and walks another. A little too wild tonight.

and K's another after going 3-2. LOL, a scoreless inning but it took like 26 pitches. Incredible stuff but not quite ready for prime time. He'll be great if he gets his control a little better.

and he got fucked on balls and strikes. He's plenty ready for prime time.

I don't think CC is going to be dominant again. I said above that he is more of a game manager now, crafty if you will, and not an "ace." That said, he pitched a good game tonight. Should he be at the top of the rotation with this staff? That's Joe's problem. But credit where it's due, CC was decent tonight.

In comment 11626174 Phil in LA said:

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and he got fucked on balls and strikes. He's plenty ready for prime time.

well, I hope you're right. His stuff is fantastic.

is still 0.00.

10-2.

to keep his OPS north of .800 without homers...

Roberts a HR away from the cycle. This is his chance, haha.

I love this team's personality so far. Unpopular though it may be, I'm really enjoying not having A-Rod on this team.

interesting. Throwing strikes now. First guy K's on 3 pitches.

Nice.

Impressive to beat up on Price likes that as well. Maybe we've got something here...

That was awfully fun to watch. Can't believe they smacked Price around like that. Good outing from CC, too.

but I guess he worked both sides of the plate with his slider change up and his new found cutter.

minors swept the day too, with highlights including Judge's first HR and a Jake Cave night that included two triples and a double.

(puts on kevlar)

Hahaha

Love the speed and outfield defense. The starting pitching looked good going in and now looks even better after a few weeks. And the BP arms look feisty and gutty out there. Need Robertson back.

The infield is getting by but we need a defensive first baseman with some pop in his bat. Tex doesn't have to be the 09 version but man we could really use a steadying presence at first. I hope he gets healthy but man the guy keeps on breaking down.

The outfield is nasty good. And Ichiro should be commended for accepting a super sub role here. He's been tremendous. I had him on the first plane out of here after last season...

Watching mook and jerseyjoe argue is fascinating. JJ is the biggest Pollyanna on Bbi while mook is extremely critical. It's a paradox. Mook makes good points even if some of those points are hard to stomach.

BaseballAmerica said the same thing Phil has been saying, that it starts with patience.

So far mostly good things on the farm, health still an issue (Campos, Heathcott and Bird still rehabbing) but of the guys who are playing at full strength the early indications are pretty encouraging.

In comment 11626176 Del Shofner said:

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I don't think CC is going to be dominant again. I said above that he is more of a game manager now, crafty if you will, and not an "ace." That said, he pitched a good game tonight. Should he be at the top of the rotation with this staff? That's Joe's problem. But credit where it's due, CC was decent tonight.

Not arguing with anyone except for JerseyJoe. All good Del

Seems like a good guy. Triple play ball (or maybe it's his HR ball) is going to his mother.

And the early indications from spring training to the first 15 games have been overwhelmingly positive.

Tanaka looks to be a bonafide ace thus far. Pineda could be a heck of a pitcher too. CC is a smart pitcher who should be able.to reinvent himslf like Muss did. Pen looks strong and deep.

This team is going to be real exciting when the bats get in a groove.

at any level, and he makes a very good play to dig out the throw from Roberts. He said he saw the whole thing develop and had to catch that ball "at all costs" to complete the triple play.

CC was interviewed and basically said that after the Tanaka-Pineda dual shutout he didn't want to be the starting pitcher who let down. Where does that leave Kuroda - just speculation, but I'd think the Japanese press is having a field day with this ... who is the #1 Japanese pitcher on the Yanks? I bet Kuroda comes out with some fire in his eye tomorrow night.

was there, doesn't have a lot of experience in this park, plus with the dome (rather than outdoors) he felt he could not look away from the ball in flight. He is sore and will see how he feels tomorrow.

just ask the Atlanta Braves. You need both pithing and O.

it is healthy pitching and hitting. Look at the Rays rotation right now. If we stay healthy we are going to be in the mix.

Great win tonight. Finally smacked Price in the mouth and broke one off in their stadium.

Solarte just mashes at the dish. He's a keeper. He made some nice adjustments on off-speed pitches after his first two ABs tonight.