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With Josh Freeman now on board as a young quality

The Duke : 4/18/2014 3:40 pm
back-up for Eli Manning, do the Giants try to get some value back for Ryan Nassib by trading him for a second or third round pick? I could see this scenario playing out during the draft based on how the draft eligible QBs come off the board. Maybe we could get a mid to bottom 2nd round pick for Nassib? Many people thought he had first round talent coming out last year. This would seem to make the most sense to me if the Giants still have confidence in Eli getting the job done for a few more years. What say you all???
why would someone give up a 2nd or 3rd for him now  
YAJ2112 : 4/18/2014 3:41 pm : link
when they could have had him last year for a 4th?
seeing that Nasab hasn't played  
Giantsfan79 : 4/18/2014 3:42 pm : link
so there is little tape on him I'd think the best case scenario would be he plays well this pre-season and he's traded for a pick in next year's draft.
Dude  
endwerc : 4/18/2014 3:46 pm : link
Nassib has zero value right now.
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26.2 : 4/18/2014 3:47 pm : link
I think its more likely someone trades us a draft pick for freeman. even that is kind of unlikely. not sure why we have either player on our roster, but there must be one. I'd say though that one of them won't be by the end of this season.
No one is trading anything for a 4th round QB that couldn't even  
Riggies : 4/18/2014 3:47 pm : link
beat out Curtis Painter for back-up snaps. He's not some mega physical talent project guy either.

Maybe he can blow off the doors this pre-season and perhaps pick up late round pick value, but for now, he's not worth anything to anyone but the Giants (and who knows how they really feel about him even).
Giants would have a hard time gaining back the 4th round pick  
NYG27 : 4/18/2014 3:48 pm : link
we invested in Nassib with. Let alone trying to get a 2nd-3rd round pick. Best case scenrio is giving Nassib extended playing time in the Hall of Fame game to open our pre-season and hopefully have him excel.

If that occurs, we might be able to package him for a higher selection in 2015 with a team willing to gamble with his potential.
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arcarsenal : 4/18/2014 3:48 pm : link
Lemme get this straight..

Every single team in this league passed on him in the 2nd and 3rd rd of last years draft.. but now, all of a sudden, after showing nothing in preseason and not playing a single down of NFL football or doing anything that could have possibly made his stock rise, a team is going to be willing to give up the 2nd or 3rd rd pick they decided he wasn't worth last year in order to acquire him?

Makes sense.
If freeman has signed  
Bill in UT : 4/18/2014 3:50 pm : link
I believe it was a 1 year contract. Can't imagine him re-signing on the cheap again. I think he's a one year insurance policy if he makes the team, not an ongoing backup to Eli.
RE: .  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/18/2014 3:51 pm : link
In comment 11627303 arcarsenal said:
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Lemme get this straight..

Every single team in this league passed on him in the 2nd and 3rd rd of last years draft.. but now, all of a sudden, after showing nothing in preseason and not playing a single down of NFL football or doing anything that could have possibly made his stock rise, a team is going to be willing to give up the 2nd or 3rd rd pick they decided he wasn't worth last year in order to acquire him?

Makes sense.


Stop being reasonable
Quality?  
G2 : 4/18/2014 3:51 pm : link
The dude is awful. Just don't get this signing, at all.
RE: Quality?  
YAJ2112 : 4/18/2014 3:53 pm : link
In comment 11627315 G2 said:
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The dude is awful. Just don't get this signing, at all.


What don't you get? He's on a 1 yr deal, most likely at vet minimum, to compete for the backup job and be a camp arm. If he sucks, then he gets cut with no harm to the cap.
Freeman can not be considered a young quality backup  
aquidneck : 4/18/2014 3:55 pm : link
until he proves he has the right stuff to be a professional. Talent does you no good at all if suspended or hungover.

He's here with a chance to redeem himself and compete with Painter. Think Nassib's gonna be here too.
I don't think people think before they post otherwise this post  
fredgbrown : 4/18/2014 3:56 pm : link
would have never happened.
Freeman  
G2 : 4/18/2014 3:56 pm : link
would fail out of the Manning passing academy. Quality, pfffft!
My thought process was based on the simple fact that the  
The Duke : 4/18/2014 4:13 pm : link
Giants traded up to grab Nassib in the 4th round thinking they got a steal on someone they obviously felt was possibly a 1st but at least a 2nd round talent when they didn't even need a QB. I find it hard to believe that they were the only team in the entire NFL who had him graded that way and were thinking along those lines. Many draft pundits had him going to Buffalo to join his former coach with their 1st pick. The fact that he didn't may have hurt his draft stock and that's why he fell into the 4th round. The Giants also thought enough of him to keep him on the active roster all year and not expose him to the practice squad where another team could grab him. Sorry if you didn't follow my logic. Maybe he has to show a little something in the pre-season to get someone to bite, but stranger things have happened in the NFL.
RE: .  
AcidTest : 4/18/2014 4:23 pm : link
In comment 11627303 arcarsenal said:
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Lemme get this straight..

Every single team in this league passed on him in the 2nd and 3rd rd of last years draft.. but now, all of a sudden, after showing nothing in preseason and not playing a single down of NFL football or doing anything that could have possibly made his stock rise, a team is going to be willing to give up the 2nd or 3rd rd pick they decided he wasn't worth last year in order to acquire him?

Makes sense.


This. And I supported the pick.
The truth is Nassib's value right now  
Jay on the Island : 4/18/2014 4:23 pm : link
is likely a 4th round pick or lower due to the fact that he barely got any playing time last preseason. When he did play the offensive line play was so damn poor that he didn't have a chance to show anything. I am a fan of Nassib and I am still happy with the pick and I look forward to read the camp reports and see how he progressed during the preseason.
People  
Jerry in DC : 4/18/2014 4:29 pm : link
are really obsessed with that pick.
RE: Quality?  
Giants2012 : 4/18/2014 5:05 pm : link
In comment 11627315 G2 said:
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The dude is awful. Just don't get this signing, at all.


I don't get it either.
Hey Duke.. don't listen to the BBI experts on this thread...  
KingBlue : 4/18/2014 5:29 pm : link
Your question is not as far fetched as these condescending posters make it out to be. There are many GM's (real GM's) that consider Nassib as talented as this years QB class. Depending on how the draft goes it is possible that one of the teams needing a QB would consider parting with a 2nd or 3rd pick for Nassib.

Don't know if it will work out that way, but it is not as ridiculous as some on this thread make it seem.
Trying to defend a bad posting only makes it worse  
Jupiter : 4/18/2014 5:41 pm : link
Walk sheepishly away and come back when the drugs wear off.
yeah OK sonny..  
KingBlue : 4/18/2014 5:44 pm : link
whatever you say. You and others speak in absolutes as if you actually have a clue. Which of course you do not... so carry on genius.
LOL....neither guy has trade value right now for most  
Geeman : 4/18/2014 5:50 pm : link
of the reasons stated already.
Nassib couldv'e been drafted last year and was passed on and has done nothing to improve his stock. Freeman was free to be had and he signed here on a 1 years deal. Giants are going to camp with these QBs and will let battle it out for backup...edge Freeman.
RE: Hey Duke.. don't listen to the BBI experts on this thread...  
Mad Mike : 4/18/2014 5:54 pm : link
In comment 11627442 KingBlue said:
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Don't know if it will work out that way, but it is not as ridiculous as some on this thread make it seem.

Really, it is. What has happened to make him 1-2 rounds more valuable than he was a year ago? (Spoiler alert - nothing).
Never understood the pick. he will never in my opinion will  
Blue21 : 4/18/2014 7:01 pm : link
be worth the 4th they gave up for him let alone having to move to get him.
LOL!  
mdthedream : 4/18/2014 7:21 pm : link
Freeman sucks period!
I think Freeman could be a good backup for Eli  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 4/18/2014 7:32 pm : link
Wasn't the guys OC Eli's old QB coach? Eli has never had a good backup and this guy has thrown for 4000 yards in an NFL season and 25 TD to 6 INT another season. He's struggled lately but if coached correctly his career could turn around. Maybe all this QB competition lights a fire under Eli's ass maybe it pushes Nassib more to develop.

Although Coughlin likes 2 QBs maybe the team keeps 3 this year because of Eli's ankle and because we lost so many guys this offseason and have a lot of roster spots to fill.

Freeman  
NJGiantFan84 : 4/18/2014 7:41 pm : link
got a 1 year deal. That tells me he is not part of the long term plan. The Giants want him to be the stop gap before Nassib takes over as back-up next year. Not that we know Nassib can do that, but that is what The Giants are hoping, IMO.
You couldn't  
PaulN : 4/18/2014 8:44 pm : link
Get a bag of balls for him. More BBI magic. Maybe we can trade Eli for the first pick in the draft and a first round pick for the next 10 years, how about that, beat that now.
I heard a rumor...that we swap first with Buffalo for Nassib  
George from PA : 4/18/2014 9:13 pm : link
He goes back to his old coach and we move to 8th....if the player, we want is still on board.
Wow,  
Doomster : 4/18/2014 9:14 pm : link
Everyone seems to forget that we traded a 4th and a 6th round pick to get this guy.....so even if someone gave us a 4th, we end up losing.....

Many thought we wasted a 4th and 6th round pick on him, and also wasted a roster spot by being forced to carry 3 qb's....

If he shows nothing in preseason and camp, Reese has a lot of explaining to do....
RE: I heard a rumor...that we swap first with Buffalo for Nassib  
Blue Blood : 4/18/2014 9:29 pm : link
In comment 11627792 George from PA said:
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He goes back to his old coach and we move to 8th....if the player, we want is still on board.


why would the Bills do that when they drafted EJ Manuel. If they wanted Nassib they could have gotten him last year..
Doomster  
Samiam : 4/18/2014 9:39 pm : link
Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years on the Packer bench. Would you have thought in year 2 that it was a wasted pick?
I'm not saying nassib would fetch a 2nd or even a 4th right now  
djm : 4/18/2014 10:49 pm : link
But it's not that crazy to believe that a former 4th rounder with one year nfl exp, albeit limited experience, wouldn't fetch a little more value than that same 4th round QB with NO nfl experience. If you don't think nfl teams place more value on qbs with experience and even just a modicum of nfl success, you haven't been paying attention. Guys like Aj freely have brought back $1.00 on 40 cent talent based on fuck all sample size.

Granted, nassib hasn't even proven he can piss straight yet, but you don't think a gm out there might like a nassib who is even just 5% more nfl ready than some rookie? Nassib is quite possibly one good exhibition game away from raising his stock. One game.

Again nassib has to show something but GMs definitely place a value on qbs that at least practiced on an nfl roster for some time . That's still more experience than a collegiate. Some gm might have wanted this kid in round 4-5 last year. He might still want him today.
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