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DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 6:32 pm
For what or who is going the other way is unknown at this time
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Tabata wouldn't make sense, right?  
Maximus, Esq. : 4/18/2014 7:25 pm : link
Pirates need to move him to make room for Polanco. Don't see the need for Tabata in the Mets OF (unless the injury to Lagares is significant).
wouldn't mind LHP  
CGiants07 : 4/18/2014 7:25 pm : link
blake Taylor 2013 2nd rounder
No idea if that's just  
pjcas18 : 4/18/2014 7:27 pm : link
wild speculation about Taylor.

He's a 6' 3" 220 pound 18-year LHP.

Played rookie ball last year.
Lets  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:28 pm : link
hope Jon Heyman:

hearing the PTBNL in ike deal is fairly significant. so there's that.
PJ  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:29 pm : link
he's just guessing. I'm speaking to both of them right now.
MetsProspectHub  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:32 pm : link
"Let's pray it's Reese McGuire".
Thanks DMM  
pjcas18 : 4/18/2014 7:33 pm : link
I figured.

I'd be happy with a 2nd round pick (player drafted in the 2nd round, not the actual pick) for Ike though, obviously nothing is guaranteed, but at this point I don't think Ike would qualify as a free agent where the Mets were compensated if someone else signed him, would they?

If not, a recent 2nd round pick is a good return.
It is a 2013 draft pick  
Headhunter : 4/18/2014 7:36 pm : link
needs to clear the 1 year signed rule
I  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:37 pm : link
could see it being JaCoby Jones. Toolsy boom or bust kid.
you can't trade future picks in baseball, right?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/18/2014 7:38 pm : link
.
Phi  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:39 pm : link
you can trade picks but only the ones given to small market teams as part of a special lottery.
Jones  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:41 pm : link
would be nice
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thanks DMM  
PhiPsi125 : 4/18/2014 7:41 pm : link
.
...  
CGiants07 : 4/18/2014 7:41 pm : link
Dave Gershman @Dave_Gershman 9m
Guessing the PTBNL to Mets is Joely Rodriguez, really solid LHP prospect that Mets have eyed since Spring of '11.

Rodriguez  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:44 pm : link
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 55 | Slider: 50 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 50 | Overall: 45

Rodriguez began his Pirate career as a hard-throwing lefty with poor command, and one who missed most of 2011 with an elbow injury. He's morphed into a durable left-hander who is a groundball machine.

Rodriguez has an excellent sinking fastball, one that led to a 2.12 groundout-to-flyout ratio in 2013 and allowed him to pitch across two levels, catapulting him to Double-A in 2014. His breaking ball can be inconsistent at times, but it flashes as at least a Major League average pitch. His changeup is above average and has a good amount of sink and tail to it as well. Rodriguez has become a better strike-thrower over the past two years.

While Rodriguez doesn't have the upside of some of the high-octane arms in the Pirates' system, he does look like he has the profile to help in the middle or back end of a big league rotation in the not-too-distant future.
Piratesprospects.com  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:45 pm : link
A big reason why he broke out in 2013 was due to improvements with his fastball command. Rodriguez was suddenly sitting 91-94 with the fastball, touching as high as 96, and commanding the pitch with good cutting movement. He has an above-average slider, which also has cutting movement, but wasnt as effective when his fastball was sitting upper 80s, due to the slider featuring similar movement in the mid-80s. The changeup made big strides this year, sitting in the low-80s with late cutting movement away from right-handers. The theme with all of his pitches is they all cut.

Rodriguez has the potential to be a middle of the rotation starter, or a dominant lefty reliever similar to Justin Wilson. He should start the 2014 season with Altoona, and now that hes on the 40-man roster, he could have a shot at the majors by mid-2015 or 2016.
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Rodriguez  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:48 pm : link
has an awful 5.4 K/9 career. That's not a "significant" PTNL to me.
We are going to field a lineup of +arm pitchers and bunt our way  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/18/2014 7:51 pm : link
through the NL.

2015 is THE YEAR baby.
Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:51 pm : link
seemed to imply it's a 2013 player and not Rodriguez. Hope so. JaCoby Jones!
Sandy has done well with most trades  
pjcas18 : 4/18/2014 7:52 pm : link
he gets the benefit of the doubt here from me

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St Lucie To Flushing ‏@PSLToFlushing 1m

@AndrewHarts: Sandy said they're happy with the PTBNL. "It's a player to be named later for a reason". This to me says it's '13 draftee


Doesn't sound like Joely.
me neither  
CGiants07 : 4/18/2014 7:52 pm : link
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Rodriguez  
DanMetroMan : 4/18/2014 7:56 pm : link
doesn't sound very appealing to me so I hope it's not him.
it's a 2013 draftee  
Headhunter : 4/18/2014 7:58 pm : link
1 year signed rule in effect
RE: Sandy  
stillpoe : 4/18/2014 8:09 pm : link
In comment 11627700 DanMetroMan said:
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seemed to imply it's a 2013 player and not Rodriguez. Hope so. JaCoby Jones!


so maybe Jones or Taylor. Either way, a 2013 draftee makes me feel better about this trade.
Yahoo Sports has its Thornton  
Samiam : 4/18/2014 9:06 pm : link
and a player to be named later.
lol, yeah I think we got that.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/18/2014 9:12 pm : link
Did you even read this thread? Haha.
Daily News  
sphinx : 4/19/2014 9:52 am : link
Alderson said that the 28-year-old Duda having more years of arbitration eligibility left was a consideration.

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I think HH is right.  
Section331 : 4/19/2014 10:43 am : link
It almost has to be a 2013 draftee, otherwise why named later?
PTBNL is either a 2013 draft pick or  
EmpireWF : 4/19/2014 10:47 am : link
an injured/rehabbing player
It's  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 10:48 am : link
a 2013 pick per Heyman. Cerrone hoping for Meadows is farcical. JaCoby Jones would be solid. But it's probably someone lesser than that.
Meadows  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 10:50 am : link
was the 9th overall pick in the draft and sports a .977 OPS in 48 career games so far. He's such a ridiculous "maybe it's...." I don't know what to say.
Rubin, from last night  
sphinx : 4/19/2014 10:52 am : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 11h
Pirates top-30 prospects (per BA) who were drafted in '13: Austin Meadows, Reese McGuire, Blake Taylor, Jacoby Jones, Cody Dickson.

mlbpipeline  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 11:04 am : link
on Dickson

Armed with good stuff and a projectable frame, Dickson's up-and-down performance at Sam Houston State held down his Draft value in 2013, with the Pirates the beneficiary.
If everything comes together for the southpaw, he could be quite the fourth-round value. Dickson's fastball can touch the mid-90s and should get there more consistently as he matures physically. His breaking ball is above-average and his changeup is good enough to give him a third Major League average offering. While he goes right after hitters, delivery issues did hamper his command during his junior year of college.

The stuff and projectability from the left side gives Dickson the chance to be a mid-rotation starter at the big league level, not to mention a Draft steal for the Pirates, if he can discover a level of consistency.
Seems like every freaking move is made with the intent to save $$$..  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2014 11:06 am : link
..one way or another.

How freaking bad is this financial situation?
I was hoping  
Spock : 4/19/2014 11:16 am : link
Andre Ethier to mets.
..................  
sphinx : 4/19/2014 11:21 am : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 5m
Front page of Daily News today a little harsh, no?

that is harsh  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2014 11:22 am : link
even though I'm glad to see him go.

I think the Mets had been trying to trade Ike for a while. If it was about money they would have non-tendered him, no?
RE: Seems like every freaking move is made with the intent to save $$$..  
sphinx : 4/19/2014 11:36 am : link
In comment 11628163 arcarsenal said:
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..one way or another.

How freaking bad is this financial situation?


Some recent articles ...

Apr. 14, 2014
But the real action, for the future of the New York Mets, can be found in a battle between two companies out west.
Howard Megdal

Mar 14, 2014
And in June of 2012, Bloomberg announced that the City had awarded Sterling Equities Incorporated (the real estate company controlled by the Wilpons) the contract to redevelop the Willets Point area, with the City's capital fund paying $100 million for demolition, remediation, and infrastructure. The land itself would be sold to the Mets and their partner, Related Construction, for $1. All of a sudden, the Mets had a major new development project on the horizon, all for the cost of a candy bar. Of course there was one thing standing in the way of this mall: all of those auto repair shops.
Why Is NYC Destroying A Thriving Immigrant Economy To Bail Out The Mets' Owners?

Seems like it's a decent guess to say it's 1 of these 4 guys  
Eric on Li : 4/19/2014 11:47 am : link
I'd have rather kept Ike and traded Duda but this seems like a solid return. Would be even better if they used the saved $ for Drew or Hanrahan.

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9) Reese McGuire, C, Grade B: Superior defensive catcher and hit very well in rookie ball (.330/.388/.392). Controls strike zone well, power is questionable. Glove will get him to the majors, bat will determine if hes a star, a decent regular, or a defense-oriented platoon/backup type. I tend towards optimism.

14) JaCoby Jones, OF-INF, Grade C+: Excellent tools but never lived up to expectations at Louisiana State, which is why he was a third rounder instead of a first. Too early to tell if that will change in pro ball. He could develop into a 20/20 player. . .or he could flail away with a poor approach and not hit at higher levels.

18) Cody Dickson, LHP, Grade C+: Fourth round pick in 2013 from Sam Houston State had command issues in college but performed well in NY-P (2.37 ERA, 59/24 K/BB in 57 innings, 42 hits). Live arm, seems like the type of pitcher that the Pirates are good at refining. Breakthrough possibility.

19) Blake Taylor, LHP, Grade C+: Second round pick in 2013 from California high school is another live-armed youngster who could develop into a mid-rotation presence, fitting the model of moldable prep talent that worked well with Glasnow and Kingham.

Beggars  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 12:02 pm : link
can't be choosers and I actually read a pretty solid scouting report on Dickson but not a great sign he's in the SAL as a 22 year old. A 22 year old college starter with 14 starts in the NYPENN should be in the FSL if a team is very high on him. I'd obviously take him since he's a live armed lefty. Hanrahan wouldn't cost much money so I doubt he's part of the equation. If he gets more than 1.5 million guaranteed it would be a shocker.
Interesting story from 2011 re: PTBNL  
EmpireWF : 4/19/2014 12:27 pm : link
tweeted by Chris Catillo. Worth noting, almost certain the identity of the player will leak before it's official. Trade cannot become official until 1-year from the date the draft pick signed (if it's indeed a 2013 pick), so that ranges from June to mid-July for Pittsburgh's top 10 picks.
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Just wondering  
Headhunter : 4/19/2014 1:04 pm : link
The PTBNL gets hurt between yesterday and the middle of June, then what?
My  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 1:10 pm : link
guess is there is already an agreement on contingency plan player B and C in case that were to happen.
Let's assume the PTBNL was the main piece  
Headhunter : 4/19/2014 1:27 pm : link
and say say he is a positional player. He gets hurt. How do you get equal value if this was the guy you targeted? It seems the Mets are taking the risk if this player plays, I think the next player should be of a higher value because he won't be the guy they wanted. Sounds weird, but makes sense to me
What if the trade were made today and the guy was injured playing for  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2014 1:35 pm : link
Mets?

Probably the same risk, no?
The guy the Mets traded  
Headhunter : 4/19/2014 1:43 pm : link
was sent packing before the game, I don't get your point?
Which ever  
Rflairr : 4/19/2014 2:16 pm : link
Player that is sent back to their ST facility today to work with their GCL team is the player
Rflairr  
DanMetroMan : 4/19/2014 2:23 pm : link
Not true. Short season players are still in extended so that wouldn't say muchu
.....  
JBGiants : 4/19/2014 2:32 pm : link
I actually think Duda is better than most think because despite his low batting average, he typically has a good OBP and decent power. However, I really hope the Mets got this right because Ike is much better defensively and is much better than Duda when he Ike is on his game. It's been a while now, but Ike was a terrific player when he came in the league. We shall see, but I hope the Mets traded the right guy.
My point is it's likely  
pjcas18 : 4/19/2014 2:37 pm : link
The mets wanted a player from the 2013 draft. If he plays in the pirate farm system or the rules were different and he could switch teams immediately and play in the mets farm system the injury risk is identical.
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