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NFT: 2 | New York Yankees vs. Tampa Bay Rays - Good Friday Ed.

RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 6:50 pm
NYY | (10-6)

1. Brett Gardner, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. IJacoby Ellsbury, CF
4. Alfonso Soriano, DH
5. Brian McCann, CA
6. Yangervis Solarte, 2B
7. Kelly Johnson, 1B
8. Tom Sizemore, 3B
9. Ichiro Suzuki, RF

SP Hiroki Kuroda (2-1) 3.86 ERA

vs.

SP Erik Bedard (0-0) 0.00 ERA

1. David DeJesus, CF
2. Ben Zobrist, 2B
3. Matt Joyce, LF
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. James Loney, 1B
6. Wil Myers, RF
7. Logan Forsythe, DH
8. Yunel Escobar, SS
9. Ryan Hanigan, CA

TBY | (7-9)
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8 2 out runs vs. one of the worst offenses in the AL  
Giants11 : 4/18/2014 10:43 pm : link
way to close out innings. I know its early and we've been playing well, but you hate to lose games like this.
Bull pen is getting spanked tonight  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/18/2014 10:44 pm : link
...
9-5  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:45 pm : link
some nights you just let out a collective dump. They are rubbing it all over their faces now.
I love it  
Giants11 : 4/18/2014 10:45 pm : link
Relievers come in and pitch like garbage missing spots all night and failing to finish of lousy hitters...but it's Joe's fault...9 2 out runs eeeesh
hint:  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:46 pm : link
when each reliever gets spanked it isn't on the manager.

Good plunk there Mr. Cabral. Ellsbury better be ready.
a little wild there Cabral?  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:48 pm : link
hits back to back players.
RE: for some unknown reason  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 10:49 pm : link
In comment 11627839 MookGiants said:
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Girardi trusts shit bags like Warren and Phelps in big spots but Betances can only pitch in blowouts. Unreal


Betances may allow a runner Mook. Joe can't let him pitch. C'mon now.
it's not Joe's fault  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 10:49 pm : link
but he needs to give Betances a shot. You don't know if he can do it unless you actually give him a chance, and he refuses to do that
how many innings did Betances just pitch?  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:50 pm : link
right. Stop making this a bigger issue than it is.
He can't pitch  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 10:50 pm : link
tonight because Joe had him pitching two innings in a blowout last night.
Cabral just imploding tonight  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:51 pm : link
11-5

Kelley is getting up...
What  
Mr. Nickels : 4/18/2014 10:52 pm : link
the hell... is this....
and he beans Forsythe and gets thrown out of the game  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:52 pm : link
thanks Joe West. You fat fucking asshole.
why  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 10:53 pm : link
would Joe bring in Kelley? The game is over, bring in a position player sitting on the bench and get out of here
Kelley? that's crazy.  
Del Shofner : 4/18/2014 10:54 pm : link
Let Solarte pitch an inning, he's done everything else.
I really  
illmatic : 4/18/2014 10:55 pm : link
do not care for this bullpen. Bad days happen but I really don't trust any of these guys aside from Robertson. Betances has the potential but he still needs to prove himself long term.
Cue the Benny ducking Hill theme  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 10:55 pm : link
....
Kelley  
YAJ2112 : 4/18/2014 10:55 pm : link
should bean the first guy on purpose
jesus fucking christ I hate auto correct  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 10:56 pm : link
Fucking. Fucking is what I fucking typed you piece of shit iphone.
it's one bad game for the BP  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 10:57 pm : link
nothing to panic over - except Cabral of course.

That said, the sooner we get some of our more talented arms up (Ramirez) the better. I don't trust either lefty we have and I think we will need a solid lefty soon.
This  
SoZKillA : 4/18/2014 10:57 pm : link
Bullpen has been absolute shit
RE: I really  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 10:58 pm : link
In comment 11627883 illmatic said:
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do not care for this bullpen. Bad days happen but I really don't trust any of these guys aside from Robertson. Betances has the potential but he still needs to prove himself long term.


How can you prove yourself when you aren't allowed to pitch in a big spot? He either pitches in blowout wins, blowout losses, or games the Yankees are behind. God forbid Joe put him in when the game is within a run or two with a lead

He's pitched 6.1 innings so far and only given up 1 hit, but somehow he's behind David Phelps, Adam Warren, and Cesar Cabral.

Why pitch him two innings in a blowout last night?
The bullpen will be fine  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 10:59 pm : link
once Joe realizes there's other people in there he should be using.
more Joe West bullshit strikezone  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 11:01 pm : link
biggest asshole in baseball. The arrogance he feels compelled to showcase on a nightly basis is unbelievable.
I just don't get the love affair  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 11:03 pm : link
Joe has with Phelps. He's got mediocre stuff, OK control. He's just mediocre, he's never going to be a top reliever, and he isn't pitching all that well this year, why does he keep getting the ball in a big spot?

It's really odd because Joe has always done a good job with the bullpen, and i know its tough without Robertson, but it just doesn't make any sense why he wont throw Betances into the fire. He's earned a shot between spring training and how he has pitched in limited action so far.
our BP took a hit  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 11:05 pm : link
when Claiborne forgot how to pitch over the offseason. I think Phelps is getting the benefit of the doubt because Joe wanted the flexibility of having multiple long relievers ready to save the starters early in the season.
I honestly think Joe doesn't trust Betances  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 11:05 pm : link
Which is fucking ridiculous because he keeps throwing Phelps out there.
RE: our BP took a hit  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 11:06 pm : link
In comment 11627894 RasputinPrime said:
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when Claiborne forgot how to pitch over the offseason. I think Phelps is getting the benefit of the doubt because Joe wanted the flexibility of having multiple long relievers ready to save the starters early in the season.


That doesn't make any sense. Claiborne sucked towards the end of last year and no one expected him to be any big part going forward. And the 2nd part makes no sense, too. I have no problem with having Phelps in the bullpen, but there's no reason he should be coming in in a big spot over Betances time and time again.
...  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 11:10 pm : link
Betances: 6.2 IP, .789 WHIP

Phelps: 7.2 IP, 1.304 WHIP
Just my opinion  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 11:12 pm : link
that they were expecting something from Claiborne and they got nothing. The fact that they brought Nuno, Phelps and Warren with them says everything about the lack of legitimate BP guys available to compete for the big club right now. While those guys may do just fine in mop up duty I don't expect any of them to hold a lead late in a game.

I hope Cash is looking to steal a solid LHP that can work the role they somehow thought Thornton was going to fill. That was the move that bothered me the most. He was left off the Sox playoff roster for a reason and yet we signed him to be our primary LH reliever?
for those who haven't seen it yet  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 11:14 pm : link
check out Stanton's walk off grand salami. Man he has untouchable power. What a waste on that team. Miami should package Puig/Kemp and parts for Stanton so a legit franchise can enjoy what looks like a breakout MVP season in the making.
Stanton has 26 RBIs already  
RasputinPrime : 4/18/2014 11:17 pm : link
top HRs by distance so far this season:

Stanton, Giancarlo MIA 04/04/14 484
Upton, Justin ATL 04/10/14 477
Stanton, Giancarlo MIA 04/12/14 469
Stanton, Giancarlo MIA 04/15/14 457


BOMB TRACKER - ( New Window )
At least the Sawx and that  
Kulish29 : 4/18/2014 11:30 pm : link
piece of shit dead beat lost today.
he's  
MookGiants : 4/18/2014 11:30 pm : link
not going to waste away for too long with Miami, they are going to have a good squad soon
We'll have a new pen pretty  
Phil in LA : 4/19/2014 12:13 am : link
soon when Burawa, Montgomery and Ramirez are ready.
Judge hit his first homer tonight  
Kulish29 : 4/19/2014 1:04 am : link
From the looks of the video I saw, it still hasn't landed yet.
That was last night  
Phil in LA : 4/19/2014 1:32 am : link
they were rained out tonight. Probably as a result of what he launched.
Yeah  
Kulish29 : 4/19/2014 1:57 am : link
Probably should've read that RAB post a bit more thoroughly.
I really hope our farm  
RasputinPrime : 4/19/2014 4:55 am : link
can stay healthy and give us some kids to really get excited about.

I also hope we don't offload those same kids for some BP help.
Cabral DFA'ed and Matt Daley up....  
Dunedin81 : 4/19/2014 7:01 am : link
not a big surprise, Cabral hadn't shown very much.
RE: I really hope our farm  
Dunedin81 : 4/19/2014 7:05 am : link
In comment 11627983 RasputinPrime said:
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can stay healthy and give us some kids to really get excited about.

I also hope we don't offload those same kids for some BP help.


They need to GET healthy, two of their best positional prospects in Heathcott and Bird still haven't seen game action and would appear to be at least a week or two away, while Campos and Turley have yet to appear in game action. But the guys who are playing are, with a few exceptions, doing well. The low-A hitters are doing better of late and guys like Lail and Severino are really holding their own.
I didn't watch any spring training this year -  
Del Shofner : 4/19/2014 9:53 am : link
what's the BBI word on Matt Daley?
Cashman  
Giants Stadium7609 : 4/19/2014 1:55 pm : link
Did nothing to address this pen in the offseason. I would of taken a shot with Nathan.Rodney. Balfour or Benoit ... Last nights game was a joke all around . And we better pray Beltran is ok because I don't like this line up at all even with him. If he Is out this line up has a chance to be worse then last year
The bullpen  
MookGiants : 4/19/2014 1:57 pm : link
will be fine when Robertson gets back and Joe finally gives Betances a shot.

No reason for them to spend big money on the pen, they have young arms in AAA who are very close and they have enough to work with in the majors once Robertson comes back.

Spending big money on the pen is usually a mistake
and LOL  
MookGiants : 4/19/2014 1:58 pm : link
at the lineup having a chance to be worse than last year if Beltran isn't OK.

Take a look at the lineups the Yankees were running out there last year and then rethink that statement
we need Montgomery and Ramirez  
RasputinPrime : 4/19/2014 2:12 pm : link
in our BP as soon as they can squeeze them in. The sooner we junk Cabral for one of them the better.
RE: Cashman  
BigBlueShock : 4/19/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11628323 Giants Stadium7609 said:
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Did nothing to address this pen in the offseason. I would of taken a shot with Nathan.Rodney. Balfour or Benoit ... Last nights game was a joke all around . And we better pray Beltran is ok because I don't like this line up at all even with him. If he Is out this line up has a chance to be worse then last year

Holy crap. One rough game and the roaches come out of the word work. Has this clown been anywhere around while they ascended to first place?

I swear some people don't understand why a team can't go 162-0. It's unbelievable.
we may not be able to go 162-0  
RasputinPrime : 4/19/2014 3:31 pm : link
but 140-22 is not yet out of the question. Benoit might just have put us in that atmosphere. Sadly now we'll never know.
RE: Cashman  
rut17 : 4/19/2014 3:57 pm : link
In comment 11628323 Giants Stadium7609 said:
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Did nothing to address this pen in the offseason. I would of taken a shot with Nathan.Rodney. Balfour or Benoit ... Last nights game was a joke all around . And we better pray Beltran is ok because I don't like this line up at all even with him. If he Is out this line up has a chance to be worse then last year


Holy crap did you even watch a single game last year? Would you rather have Stewart, Nix, Hafner, and Vernon Wells out there everyday??
RP  
BigBlueShock : 4/19/2014 4:39 pm : link
I know what you mean, man. Just think of where this team would be right now if they had the smart sense to sign Nathan. His 8 era and 1.9 whip would surely lead this team to 150 wins, minimum. and think of the possibilities if he can somehow start to break 90 mph once in awhile! Wow. His "dead arm" issue sure would be a welcome sight in this pen. And for a mere $8 Million per? Pffft, damn Cashman, idiot.
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