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Giants 49er Playoff Game

Samiam : 4/19/2014 2:06 pm
On NFL channel now, starting 4th quarter. It's the Fassel
Meltdown. Still hurts after all these years,
The D  
Phil in LA : 4/19/2014 2:08 pm : link
and the refs melted down.
refuse to watch  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/19/2014 2:08 pm : link
that
RE: The D  
MookGiants : 4/19/2014 2:10 pm : link
In comment 11628338 Phil in LA said:
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and the refs melted down.


Well the meltdown really started when Shockey dropped that touchdown
One of the bigger drops  
Phil in LA : 4/19/2014 2:13 pm : link
in Giant History.
Classic Shockey  
Moondwg : 4/19/2014 2:16 pm : link
More noise that production.
Terrible  
rdt288 : 4/19/2014 2:24 pm : link
Terrible game. Terrible day in giants land that was. Awful
Remember it like yesterday. Sucks(ed)
.  
Danny Kanell : 4/19/2014 2:26 pm : link
What a brutal fucking loss.
I don't blame Shockey at all for that loss  
Jints in Carolina : 4/19/2014 2:26 pm : link
that was an epic meltdown by the defense. We scored more than enough points to win.
Wow  
Danny Kanell : 4/19/2014 2:35 pm : link
Fassel should have gone for it there.
Watching this special teams unit  
bceagle05 : 4/19/2014 2:36 pm : link
makes me hate Tom Quinn a little bit less.
.  
Danny Kanell : 4/19/2014 2:37 pm : link
Why am I watching this?
I've never re-watched this game  
Buck Dharma : 4/19/2014 2:53 pm : link
and never will.
Amazing how they reeled us in  
bceagle05 : 4/19/2014 2:55 pm : link
again in the last minute, just to bend us over again.
Man it still hurts  
Danny Kanell : 4/19/2014 2:58 pm : link
12 years and 2 titles later.
Shockey going out of his way to  
crick78 : 4/19/2014 2:58 pm : link
plow into Julian Peterson was awesome!
Brutal, brutal loss..  
Sean in PA : 4/19/2014 2:59 pm : link
when that offense was clicking it was fun to watch, such a collapse though.
Time heals this wound for me.  
bceagle05 : 4/19/2014 3:02 pm : link
Owens never got a ring. Garcia never got one. Mooch's career went nowhere. We made changes for the better and won two rings. Niners fans have suffered plenty in the past three seasons.
still wondering how a player open to get a pass gets tackled  
Blue Blood : 4/19/2014 3:03 pm : link
on the last play of the game and there is no flag whatsoever..
ummm  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 4/19/2014 3:11 pm : link
It hurt  
MookGiants : 4/19/2014 3:31 pm : link
until February 3rd, 2008.

If we dont blow that game we dont wind up with Eli
I don't think I'll ever re-watch this one.  
arcarsenal : 4/19/2014 3:40 pm : link
I've made peace with it anyway, though. We more than likely were not beating TB and then we probably don't have Eli, either. And who knows if we'd have won just ONE SB since let alone 2.

I think I was unapproachable for like 2 full weeks after this game happened. Ugh.
Horrible  
Samiam : 4/19/2014 4:31 pm : link
I always thought that Fassel & Lynn blew it with bad play calling . And , the refs completely blew at the end by not huddling . Fassel needed to throw a shit fit at the end & not meekly leave the field. Not sure if it would have made a difference but it always bugged me that the official was not aware that he was eligible & flag should have bee thrown. Offsetting penalties would have been replay. Plus, field goal holder should have downed the ball with bad snap. Wonder if ST coach told him that. Game made me sick.
Less talented teams have won the Superbowl...  
Jimmy Googs : 4/19/2014 4:57 pm : link
that loss just hurt, especially with the way our Offense was clicking with plenty of momentum.

Someone on BBI said it the other day, talent gets you to the dance but coaching and clutch plays brings home the jewelry. We didn't have the latter two on that day.
The Ronde Barber INT TD return..  
Sean in PA : 4/19/2014 5:14 pm : link
against McNabb a few weeks later helped.
surprised nobody has yet mentioned  
Giants2012 : 4/19/2014 5:52 pm : link
"you can never have enough pass rushers". This is where it originated.
Took me till January 22, 2012 to get over that one  
Bramton1 : 4/19/2014 6:38 pm : link
When Jim Harbaugh was up in arms about Ahmad Bradshaw's being ruled down by contact.

"Bummer..."
Game  
stretch234 : 4/19/2014 8:11 pm : link
There is no meltdown if Shockey catches a perfectly thrown TD pass. None of the other sit mattered if he did what he was supposed to do
Fassel's biggest coaching mistake...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/19/2014 8:34 pm : link
Cost him the game and likely his career, imo, was walking off the field that day. I would have never left the field without a complete explanation of the call.
the referees  
MookGiants : 4/19/2014 8:51 pm : link
ran off the field, what was he supposed to do? Just keep his team out there and demand the officials to come back from the locker room?
I actually  
St. Jimmy : 4/19/2014 8:56 pm : link
turned it on to see the final replay Seubert getting tackled. It panned to the Giants' sideline which was going nuts. Collinworth was pretty much like he was ineligable so the Giants are wrong. Boy, was he wrong.
The most painful loss ever.  
Crispino : 4/19/2014 9:09 pm : link
That one physically hurt. I couldn't sleep for 3 nights after that game.
Just saw this thread...  
JB in NJ : 4/19/2014 9:49 pm : link
after commenting on it in the "Kerry Collins" thread.

Just a perfect storm of screw-ups. The Shockey drop. The back-back personal fouls calls on Shaun Williams that negated back-back PF calls on San Fran that would have pushed their kickoff back even further. The two bad snaps by Trey Junkin(never mind Ray Handley, THAT is a name that truly should never be repeated), the fact that Matt Allen could have just spiked the ball on the second bad snap. The blown PI call was just the icing on the cake.

And I had forgotten that Ron Winter was the ref that day. The league was 11 years too late in forcing out that incompetent buffoon. What a travesty that they let him hang around all this time.
We still only scored 3 points..  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 4/19/2014 10:54 pm : link
in the 4th qtr. So, despite all of the valid points already made here... we still folded the offensive tents too early.
RE: the referees  
Mason : 4/19/2014 11:03 pm : link
In comment 11628762 MookGiants said:
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ran off the field, what was he supposed to do? Just keep his team out there and demand the officials to come back from the locker room?


Exactly. The league apologized the next day and Fassel said what good was that unless they give us another chance to kick a FG.
RE: I actually  
Mason : 4/19/2014 11:06 pm : link
In comment 11628764 St. Jimmy said:
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turned it on to see the final replay Seubert getting tackled. It panned to the Giants' sideline which was going nuts. Collinworth was pretty much like he was ineligable so the Giants are wrong. Boy, was he wrong.


Francesa and Russo killed Collinworth. I think he actually was so apologetic he talked about it during another game.
The Shockey drop was HUGE  
SGMen : 4/19/2014 11:54 pm : link
Yes, the defense cost us along with a bad ref call to end the game but if Shockey holds onto that pass the game is over. It wasn't a hard pass just lost his concentration.

That is one of the worst losses I have ever seen.
That game was the end of Sehorn  
montanagiant : 4/19/2014 11:59 pm : link
And Fassel
More infuriating about the Shockey drop  
an_idol_mind : 4/20/2014 12:06 am : link
was that after the play they showed him on the sidelines chewing out an equipment guy about his gloves. Just a total refusal to accept responsibility for his drop.
Strahan  
watertown : 4/20/2014 12:08 am : link
As good as he was, was a non factor, especially second half.
Shockey  
watertown : 4/20/2014 12:11 am : link
Didn't he hit a a kid with ice he threw in the stands that game?
Yeah Strahan was invisible in that game.  
bceagle05 : 4/20/2014 12:14 am : link
Amazing what 2007 did for his career. His defenses always came up small. I couldn't stand those Fassel teams.
Fassel  
watertown : 4/20/2014 12:19 am : link
Who in Giant history has had more horrible losses than Fassel? The 97 Minnesota playoff loss has to be up there too.
If Shockey catches that pass  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/20/2014 12:37 am : link
there is not enough time for a 9er comeback, also didnt Fassel shit the bed by not running the ball to kill clock? I will never re watch that game so I will nor find out unless you guys tell me
This loss . . .  
Ralph.C : 4/20/2014 12:50 am : link
. . . continually is discussed on this board 12 years later. It was worse than "The Fumble" game because that 1978 team wasn't going anywhere anyway. But both "The Fumble" and "The Collapse" opened up the door for two championships. Without "The Fumble" there is no George Young, no Ray Perkins, no Lawrence Taylor and subsequently, no 1986 and 1990. Without 'The Collapse" their is no Eli, No Coughlin and no 2007 and 2011.

So, if I could travel back in time, and had a chance to alter the outcome of those games somehow, I wouldn't do it. It would KILL ME, but I wouldn't do it.

That being said, the 2002 playoff loss is probably the only loss in Giants history that is completely unwatchable by about 90% of those of us that saw it the first time.

I still hurts. And when the NFL issued that press release saying that the last play should have been a penalty??

UGHHHHH! THANKS A LOT!
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 4/20/2014 7:03 am : link
Probably the lowest point of my Giants fandom. The Eagles 2010 loss comes in a close second.
I blame the defense for that loss  
mrvax : 4/20/2014 11:07 am : link
However, I seem to remember shit head Shockey had a sure touchdown and instead he decides to make full contact with a 49er defender near the end zone. They never scored that TD and I blame the asshole for that.

With all that went wrong,  
Big Blue '56 : 4/20/2014 11:23 am : link
the inexplicable and inexcusable drop by Shockey was the killer. In retrospect I'm thankful, given what has transpired since
Fassel coached the year after this and went 4-12  
RobotGhost : 4/20/2014 11:45 am : link
That steaming pile of Jim Fassel HC crap is what got us Coughlin and Eli.

2002 San Fran was just a team blowing a 38 - 14 3rd Quarter lead in the playoffs.
That was a game that will live in infamy  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/20/2014 4:09 pm : link
it doesn't cause me quite the pain it did at the time - there dis no way you could ever get me to watch it again.

Fuk Fassell and the boat he came in on - I blame that loss entirely on him. He coached the most undisciplined teams of all times - I am grateful he is gone.

I don't remember the Shockey drop, or the end of the game - I just remember Garcia kept getting the ball again after we did nada and he took it to us at will, over and over and over again.

SOAB!
everytime  
BigBlueCane : 4/20/2014 4:37 pm : link
I see this topic, I think of Joey's therapy bills and I cringe.
This loss did not bring us Coughlin and Fassel...  
JB in NJ : 4/20/2014 10:30 pm : link
The 2003 team opened the season beating a Rams team that went something like 12-4. It went down the tubes after suffering a boatload of injuries - including to Collins. That's what brought us Coughlin and Eli.
Watertown...  
JB in NJ : 4/20/2014 10:38 pm : link
the 2010 loss to the Eagles, in a de facto playoff game, was actually historic, by NFL terms.
I didn't watch the replay...  
Dan in the Springs : 4/22/2014 2:53 pm : link
never have, so my memory may be off. But what I remember clearly and vividly as I was melting down over the botched field goal was Fassel calmly walking with his head lowered making absolutely NO attempt to get an explanation from the refs.

I would have been going absolutely berserk. I would have kept my team on the field and ran after the refs, insisting on an explanation. I would have NOT left the field willingly that day.

He didn't even come close to questioning what the heck had happened, in spite of the enormity of the situation and the obvious issues that transpired. He just accepted the defeat.
To this day...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/22/2014 2:58 pm : link
I'll never understand why the NFL didn't bring the teams back out from the locker room to replay a correctable error.

Fuck - even when it happened I was convinced they would replay that down even the next day.

A horrendous fuckup because some twat that didn't know the rules arrogantly stayed ignorant.

His reward - a fucking promotion.
RE: This loss did not bring us Coughlin and Fassel...  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 3:00 pm : link
In comment 11629763 JB in NJ said:
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The 2003 team opened the season beating a Rams team that went something like 12-4. It went down the tubes after suffering a boatload of injuries - including to Collins. That's what brought us Coughlin and Eli.


Fassel gets a lot more leeway if they win a playoff game the year before. The owners would have said the team had a lot of injuries and he deserved another chance.

But coming off of that collapse and then to go 4-12, no way would he survive.

And Collins got hurt in december against the skins and going into that game they were 4-8. They absolutely carried over that collapse to the next season and the team quit on him on top of the injuries
I prefer this one  
BeerFridge : 4/22/2014 3:11 pm : link
Marshall sacks the shit outta Montana
Link - ( New Window )
it hurts  
Les in TO : 4/22/2014 3:23 pm : link
stupid trey junkin.
Shockey Impact  
KWALL : 4/22/2014 3:48 pm : link
Anybody who questions just how talented Shockey was should watch this game. At this time, he was one of the top offensive players in the NFL. Nobody had an answer for the guy.

Peterson, who was considered one of the best defenders in the league, could not match up with him. They also split him out and he beat CBs on slants and double moves.

The play when he went after Peterson was one of the best plays a TE can make. First he beat him on a double move. Caught the ball over the middle and ran right through the S who had him lined up for a KO shot. THe S crumbled on impact at Shockey's feet. He spun. Peterson ran past him. He avoided the CB and knocked Peterson on his ass at the end zone. It was a beauty. And then he followed it up with a TD catch (They split him wide and he beat the S on a fade route.)

Shockey didn't have his head on straight but he was a true field tilter at this time.

This loss still hurts because I am convinced Shockey (and Barber) were the perfect combo to take that the overrated Bucs. I think they would have went down to TB and handed them a beating. And eventually won the SB that year because after TB it was an easy ride to the SB win.
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