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Mets told John Lannan he could start or relieve at AAA -- whichever he thought was best for his career -- if he remains with organization
Braves
Jason Heyward, rf
B.J. Upton, cf
Freddie Freeman, 1b
Justin Upton, lf
Evan Gattis, c
Dan Uggla, 2b
Chris Johnson, 3b
Andrelton Simmons, ss
Ervin Santana, rhp
Mets
Eric Young Jr., lf
Daniel Murphy, 2b
David Wright, 3b
Curtis Granderson, rf
Chris Young, cf
Lucas Duda, 1b
Travis d'Arnaud, c
Ruben Tejada, ss
Bartolo Colon, rhp
Let's see how many times Granderson can K tonight. I know Yankee fans warned us he was a strikeout machine but he strikes out on so many hittable pitches.
Strikes out at a historical pace (even when he is already a strikeout machine), plays shifty defense, and I bet he wont even crack 25 HRs. Another quality signing.
its not his fault, this team is fucking cursed... i don't know what it is, but they are absolutely 100% cursed...
get great pitchers, all their arms fall off, make any type of signing of guys who perform well for other teams, watch them have career low years here...
just inexplicable at this point...
for some reason Wright has been able to remain a decent constant, Piazza probably has a better career if went to another team but he was so good he still had a HOF career here...
Strikes out at a historical pace (even when he is already a strikeout machine), plays shifty defense, and I bet he wont even crack 25 HRs. Another quality signing.
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Can challenge hit by pitch but cannot challenge fair/foul in infield.
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Bartolo Colon E-1 on Freddie Freeman grounder with 2 outs. 2 runs scored. Ball actually hit Freeman's foot--should've been foul.
Wright cannot hit a fucking breaking ball right now
Granderson squared up a ball and hit it to right. It would have been in the 5th row of the Little League park in the Bronx. It was caught at the front edge of the warning track. Don't underestimate how that's going to play on his mind and make things worse as he tries to come out of his shoes to get it out of the park in Citifield.
Colon has not pitched bad tonight, in fact he's pitched quite well
He is not a big guy like Giancarlo Stanton who can blast them out of anywhere. His power was obviously to a certain extent a product of the places where he played: Yankee and Tiger stadiums
I would expect him to be a 15-18 HR guy at Citi.
Also, when you already have a bunch of high strikeout guys in the lineup, you can't go out and sign to whiff kings like Young and Granderson.
know any mets fan who didn't think that granderson was going to suck at our home park... it was just a shit ass signing, but they "had" to do something since they are just bumbling around right now.
But for a team to be this poor at their home park for this long is mind boggling. Front Office continues to put a shitty team together with equally shitty manager, and put all their eggs in a basket of minor league pitchers.
I really cant believe what we've had to endure through.
Granderson will be a solid signing if he adjustments are made
The team needs to adjust and he's got to go back to hitting like he did in Detroit - which would make him more of a top of the order guy. He's not likely to strike out less as a cleanup hitter without any protection behind him.
Obviously this lineup is a bunch of bad options, then Wright and Granderson, and then a bunch of other bad options. But assuming they had someone else who could protect Wright, Granderson would be a lot better off batting in the 2 hole ahead of Wright.
a beach ball right now. He's in a huge slump. I doubt he stays like this much longer but I feel bad for him because fans are going to turn on him quick. Everyone has Bay fresh in their minds plus he has the whole former yankee thing going for him. Its not going to be pretty for him. He better get it together quick.
The reason they have sucked at home the last few years is because the team has simply sucked period. I don't get what the big mystery is. We've gone through a rebuild over the last few years and we are about a year away from finally seeing the rewards of it. So what if we were a little better on the road? People act like we've had a World Series team and have just choked at home. When you have a team filled with shitty players you may not do well at home. Shocker.
We can have all the pitchers in the world but if you can't hit then you will still suck.
Where do you see this offense coming from? Still hoping on our minor leaguers that never seem to pan out? Or another amazing free agent signing from Sandy...because he's shown to be real good at those moves too.
And likely a lot better than it is now by the time the year is out. There is no reason to go crazy and spend money on Drew ect this year with Harvey out. The pitching is going to be ridiculous next year. The bullpen will be sorted. We'll have options galore with the lineup. Yes, Puello and Flores are two legit prospects that could push their way on this team soon. Yes we'll have the money to sign a free agent if theres even a hole and yes we'll have plenty of chips next year to make a trade. We can't roll with a 9 man rotation next year. Something has to give and next year with all the ducks in a row will be the time to do it.
You should have to hit a baseball to get a homerun. I coach my son's 13 year old Little League team and they play on a 300' field. A 308' hit should NOT be a homerun. It's a joke.
do you let Tejada hit there! You have to be kidding me! They have Kimbrel you ideot! That was our only chance to score, Terry Collins...only the Mets would be that stupid.
And likely a lot better than it is now by the time the year is out. There is no reason to go crazy and spend money on Drew ect this year with Harvey out. The pitching is going to be ridiculous next year. The bullpen will be sorted. We'll have options galore with the lineup. Yes, Puello and Flores are two legit prospects that could push their way on this team soon. Yes we'll have the money to sign a free agent if theres even a hole and yes we'll have plenty of chips next year to make a trade. We can't roll with a 9 man rotation next year. Something has to give and next year with all the ducks in a row will be the time to do it.
I'm sorry, but this post is filled with hilarity. How is this lineup "a lot" better next year? Because Flores and Puello are legit prospects? Okay. Because you are banking on a bunch of minor league pitchers and Harvey coming off TJ surgery? And please dont tell me they will have money to spend...I mean, really? But yeah, those are some rose colored glasses.
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Not sure who TC will turn to next save situation, but really cannot be Jose Valverde. Kyle Farnsworth? Gonzalez Germen? Joel Hanrahan?
No dipshit. But it will have an infusion of talent and have a couple of Montero, Degrom, Mejia, ect. They can't all start. Torres, German, and Familia have looked pretty good. Black and Walters will likely get up here at some point. Its strength in numbers. Yes you can sign a reliever or two next year as well if nobody pans out(which is highly unlikely.
I get that this team isn't going anywhere this year, and that's fine. But they need to at least fill the roster with decent players (like Granderson and Young). If Hanrahan looks like he's anywhere close to healthy they need to sign him, end of story. They cannot give Tejada another month hitting the way he is currently, nor can they let Valverde continue to have a meaningful role.
Oh well, at least this game had some positives. Duda, Wright & Murphy had some good AB's and Chris Young is looking like he might be more like the player he was in AZ. Colon had a solid bounce back game. They need to get Granderson going.
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Terry Collins sounds like he's changing closers too. Said he didn't want to address topic until he addressed players though.
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Day after tough start for Rafael Montero, Noah Syndergaard rough outing too: 4 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 HR so far. At 86 pitches.
Jason Heyward, rf
B.J. Upton, cf
Freddie Freeman, 1b
Justin Upton, lf
Evan Gattis, c
Dan Uggla, 2b
Chris Johnson, 3b
Andrelton Simmons, ss
Ervin Santana, rhp
Mets
Eric Young Jr., lf
Daniel Murphy, 2b
David Wright, 3b
Curtis Granderson, rf
Chris Young, cf
Lucas Duda, 1b
Travis d'Arnaud, c
Ruben Tejada, ss
Bartolo Colon, rhp
Hey, but at least he's a really nice guy.
get great pitchers, all their arms fall off, make any type of signing of guys who perform well for other teams, watch them have career low years here...
just inexplicable at this point...
for some reason Wright has been able to remain a decent constant, Piazza probably has a better career if went to another team but he was so good he still had a HOF career here...
just can't even anymore at this point...
Hey, but at least he's a really nice guy.
Jay Bay was nicer.
Can challenge hit by pitch but cannot challenge fair/foul in infield.
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Bartolo Colon E-1 on Freddie Freeman grounder with 2 outs. 2 runs scored. Ball actually hit Freeman's foot--should've been foul.
We know what Gil Hodges would have done.
I forget, how many years did they sign him for?
Granderson: Can you say "Jay Bay the Sequel"
Young: 0 for 6 after hitting .212 last year
Obviously, it is very early and things could turn around. But the early returns are not good.
I would expect him to be a 15-18 HR guy at Citi.
Also, when you already have a bunch of high strikeout guys in the lineup, you can't go out and sign to whiff kings like Young and Granderson.
He benefited from playing at Yankee Stadium, no question.
His defense has always been overrated. There are a bunch of balls each year that he should catch that he doesn't
But for a team to be this poor at their home park for this long is mind boggling. Front Office continues to put a shitty team together with equally shitty manager, and put all their eggs in a basket of minor league pitchers.
I really cant believe what we've had to endure through.
Obviously this lineup is a bunch of bad options, then Wright and Granderson, and then a bunch of other bad options. But assuming they had someone else who could protect Wright, Granderson would be a lot better off batting in the 2 hole ahead of Wright.
Where do you see this offense coming from? Still hoping on our minor leaguers that never seem to pan out? Or another amazing free agent signing from Sandy...because he's shown to be real good at those moves too.
I'm sorry, but this post is filled with hilarity. How is this lineup "a lot" better next year? Because Flores and Puello are legit prospects? Okay. Because you are banking on a bunch of minor league pitchers and Harvey coming off TJ surgery? And please dont tell me they will have money to spend...I mean, really? But yeah, those are some rose colored glasses.
Valverde gives up another bomb. Justin Upton crushes one to CF. Valverde has allowed 4HR last 3 outings.
Not sure who TC will turn to next save situation, but really cannot be Jose Valverde. Kyle Farnsworth? Gonzalez Germen? Joel Hanrahan?
Mets would drop to 2-6 at home this season with a loss. They are 6-3 on the road.
At least they fought back and made it close.
Oh well, at least this game had some positives. Duda, Wright & Murphy had some good AB's and Chris Young is looking like he might be more like the player he was in AZ. Colon had a solid bounce back game. They need to get Granderson going.
Terry Collins sounds like he will drop Curtis Granderson from the cleanup spot.
Terry Collins sounds like he's changing closers too. Said he didn't want to address topic until he addressed players though.
So the upshot of today's #Mets loss is likely a new cleanup hitter and a new closer.
And they should just close by committee at this point because there's no one in the pen who is going to hold it down by themselves.
Day after tough start for Rafael Montero, Noah Syndergaard rough outing too: 4 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 HR so far. At 86 pitches.