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NFT: Mets ~ Easter Sunday

sphinx : 4/20/2014 9:36 am
Adam Rubin & #8207;@AdamRubinESPN 1m
Sunday #Mets vs. #Braves
EY Jr. – 7
Granderson – 9
Wright – 5
Murphy – 4
Young – 8
Duda – 3
Recker – 2
Quintanilla – 6
Wheeler – 1

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Granderson is stinking up the joint  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2014 9:42 am : link
So by all means give him MORE AB's
I like the idea of moving Grandy up to the 2 hole  
deboGIANTS : 4/20/2014 9:45 am : link
But I think they should switch Duda and Murph

In an ideal situation Duda steps up to be the clean up hitter

Murphy is better suited to bat sixth and be a tough out especially since he doesn't walk much
Murphy as cleanup?  
KWhite2250 : 4/20/2014 9:46 am : link
Jesus, not as if there us alot to work with, but the manager is brain dead
And Farnsworth will close  
Defenderdawg : 4/20/2014 10:14 am : link
Andy Martinoţ@MartinoNYDN·3 mins
Presented without comment RT @AckertNYDN Farnsworth will close now
so the mets saved 4+ mill  
Rory : 4/20/2014 10:34 am : link
when they traded Ike so...

Just use that money and sign Joel Hanrahan to be close.

Almost makes too much sense.

Meanwhile in Colorado....

In days gone by  
sphinx : 4/20/2014 10:39 am : link
the #2 batter was a contact hitter.

We knew coming in Granderson is going to strike out a lot  
Headhunter : 4/20/2014 10:48 am : link
He is also not the first player to start off a season ice cold. Pretty much half the HR's he hit as a Yankee were on the road. My point? Patience, he will hit a hot streak and carry the club for a week or two. He will settle in to what he always was
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sphinx : 4/20/2014 10:56 am : link
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David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 31m
#Braves lineup pic.twitter.com/3FAESu40bI




Murph hitting cleanup now.. LOL.  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2014 10:57 am : link
Awesome.
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sphinx : 4/20/2014 11:10 am : link
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Brian Lewis ‏@NYPost_Lewis 19m
Kyle Farnsworth will close for the moment. Collins didn't want to add the pressure of the cleanup spot to Lucas Duda's plate.

And for more pressure relief ...  
sphinx : 4/20/2014 11:17 am : link
Collins said. "So we might have to do something to get him out of that spot, just to take a little bit of the pressure off him. Although I think Curtis Granderson is not afraid of pressure and being on the spot."

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Replay  
sphinx : 4/20/2014 11:27 am : link
A play at Citi Field on Saturday night, one that may have cost the Mets a game, offered a classic case in point. TV replays showed that Freddie Freeman clearly fouled a ball off his foot in the third inning. But because home plate ump Eric Cooper didn’t see it, the ball was in play as it rolled slowly toward the mound.

There were two outs and two runners on at the time, and when Bartolo Colon threw wide of first and down the line, both runners scored, turning a 1-0 deficit for the Braves into a 2-1 lead.


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Still, for all of the Mets’ problems, you can’t ignore the fact that flaws in the replay system cost them on both nights here.

Friday, the umpires wrongly told Collins that a challenge of a call at first base, on a play where it appeared that Travis d’Arnaud should have been called safe, was a waste of time.

On the play, d’Arnaud was called out to end the inning, yet Freeman, the Braves’ first baseman, threw across the diamond anyway and Lucas Duda was tagged out at third. So the umps ruled that even if the replay showed d’Arnaud to be safe, the inning would still be over because of the out at third.

So Collins didn’t challenge. But on Saturday, he said that he had since learned umpires had the discretion, based on an overhead camera shot that has been installed in all ballparks, to send Duda back to second if they saw that he had slowed down — which he did — after seeing the third out apparently made at first.

In other words, a challenge should have resulted in the Mets having runners at first and second, with two outs. In a game that was 1-0 at the time, that’s a major blunder by the umps.


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Why can't they just  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 11:34 am : link
Sign Drew and Hanrahan?
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sphinx : 4/20/2014 11:39 am : link
keithlaw ‏@keithlaw 9m
Both terrible arguments. “@Joelsherman1: Collins said Grandy good history at 2d, plus hopes gets more fastballs behind Eric Young Jr”

signing Drew is a waste  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2014 11:42 am : link
Costs the Mets a pick and the difference between Tejada and Drew at Shortstop is not going to suddenly make the Mets a playoff caliber team. Hanrahan, on the other hand, only costs $$$ (and a lot less than Drew at that)
RE: Why can't they just  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2014 11:44 am : link
In comment 11629156 Rflairr said:
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Sign Drew and Hanrahan?


I'm ok with passing on Drew at this point... they won't sign Hanrahan because they probably don't want to spend the money.
Hanrahan  
DanMetroMan : 4/20/2014 11:53 am : link
is going to cost very, very, very little money.
Batting Murphy cleanup  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 11:55 am : link
Is the perfect example of a manager being obsessed with the right Left Right crap.

Collins will never be mistaken as great strategist,
And still, the Mets probably won't add him.  
arcarsenal : 4/20/2014 11:56 am : link
Apparently 2.5 was too much for Hawkins, so.. they'll probably pass on Hanrahan too.
Brian  
DanMetroMan : 4/20/2014 11:57 am : link
Wilson got 1 million last year from the Dodgers for comparisons sake in a similar situation.
Arc  
DanMetroMan : 4/20/2014 11:58 am : link
oh yeah you may well be right but the money would be a terrible excuse but one the Mets may in fact use. If the Mets can't sign players at 5 million or less without biting their fingernails that's just not good.
I like Granderson in the 2 hole - IF he adjusts his approach  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2014 12:12 pm : link
plays more to contact and gets OB more. Murphy in the 4 hole is laughable from a power perspective, but considering our cleanup hitter has no protection I'd rather it be someone who doesn't easily expand the strike zone - like Granderson does.

Also I'd still sign Drew for 2 years right now if I could. Mostly because I have zero confidence they will have the $ necessary to sign someone better like Asdrubel Cabrera or Lowrie for 50M+ in the offseason. Only thing that would stop me from signing Drew is if they've had conversations that make them confident they can get a capable young player via trade in the next few months (presumably when Montero/Thor are ready to take other player's spots in the rotation). Hell, maybe Toronto is finally ready to just dump Reyes' salary and willing to kick in some $ for Gee or Niese? They have been 1 of the teams rumored to like Drew...

This team isn't winning 90 games, but they aren't going to even hover around .500 if they continue trotting out Tejada, Valverde, and Farnsworth in meaningful roles. Similar to what they did with the OF last year early on, they need to make some personnel moves pretty rapidly if they want to try to get any early momentum going.
The Mets passed on Hawkins early in the offseason  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2014 12:14 pm : link
likely because they knew every cent mattered in the bigger deals they were looking to complete. I think the way things played out they would have taken that deal in a heartbeat for 2.5 over signing Farnsworth or Valverde, but hindsight is 20/20.
Granderson  
Giants2012 : 4/20/2014 12:16 pm : link
Doesnt mke enough contact for the 2-hole IMO.

it wont matter what they do  
spike : 4/20/2014 12:16 pm : link
because they just arent a playoff team. Wont be better than the Nats or Braves
Asdrubel  
DanMetroMan : 4/20/2014 12:38 pm : link
Cabrera would likely be a disaster of a signing. He certainly looks to be fully in decline mode and his defense has been awful. The money + years and pick... I could see that being a truly regretful move. 2011 3.6 WAR 119 wRC+, .344 wOBA, 2012 2.8 WAR, 113 wRC+ .332 wOBA, 2013 0.6 WAR .307 wOBA 95 wOBA, 2014 (so far) 0.0 WAR .293 wOBA, 89 wRC+ and his defense once again has been below average. I see him moving to 2b for his next team.
They are not a playoff team - but winning 80+ games would have value  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2014 12:55 pm : link
This team is held back by an environment of losing that was/is created and fostered by the Wilpons. Fans and players of this organization are always waiting for the next bad thing to happen, more often than not correctly. If Sandy is going to break that cycle they need to build towards improvement and establish some semblance of the foundation of a winning team. Great defense and solid starting pitching are achievable goals this year that will give them something to build on next year with Harvey back in the mix.
I agree Dan - that's why I'd still sign Drew for 2yrs & give up a pick  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2014 12:59 pm : link
there aren't any appealing options in FA next year, and they'll likely cost at least 2x whatever Drew costs now. Again, only reason I wouldn't sign Drew is if there's a player available via trade that's within reach. If Tejada is still the starting SS past Memorial Day it's a huge failure for Alderson.
They need to sign Drew  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 1:14 pm : link
Tejada really isn't even good defensively. Average at best. And he's not a major league hitter
Nice throw by  
Rory : 4/20/2014 1:19 pm : link
Recker!

Guy continues to be a pleasant surprise for 2014
RE: They need to sign Drew  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2014 1:26 pm : link
In comment 11629285 Rflairr said:
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Tejada really isn't even good defensively. Average at best. And he's not a major league hitter


Stop overrating Drew at the plate. Not to mention, we are not a playof team with Drew at SS so why waste a pick which limits draft flexibility (because you have less chances to go under slot to allow more money for overslot guys) and costs money that could be used to improve the bullpen?
agree ^  
Rory : 4/20/2014 1:35 pm : link
One "of't injured SS is not going to put this team over the top in a pennant race.

What scares me the most is what if they do sign Drew and he becomes the next Luis Castillo where the front office feels obligated to play him and not look to upgrade despite health or play concerns.

This scenario where the risk ($$) outweighs the reward.

Joel Hanrahan  
Rory : 4/20/2014 1:37 pm : link
is who they need to target, its almost too obvious.
Hanrahan's TJ surgery was only 11 months ago  
oipolloi : 4/20/2014 1:42 pm : link
guys usually need longer than to come back and be effective
maybe Recker should be sthe starter  
spike : 4/20/2014 1:44 pm : link
nad let TDA be the back up

or at least 50-50
Spike  
DanMetroMan : 4/20/2014 1:48 pm : link
all due respect but that would be an awful decision. The Mets need to let TDA play and see what they have. Recker is "Todd Pratt". He's got some power, he's a solid backup catcher but that's what he is. What good would come of making TDA the backup or playing him 50% of the time? Player development and seeing what players are/aren't is more important than 30 year old Anthony Recker's production.
Oip  
Rory : 4/20/2014 1:50 pm : link
Understand, but this is a move with the thinking of next year too.

Agree with DMM ..Meanwhile...  
Rory : 4/20/2014 1:54 pm : link
(Recker hits a single into the gap and moves Duda to 3rd)
And Granderson  
sphinx : 4/20/2014 2:03 pm : link
is ....

Granderson  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 2:36 pm : link
Wow just wow
Bench Grandy  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2014 2:36 pm : link
Andrew Brown can start in RF
At least Bay played good defense  
steve in ky : 4/20/2014 2:37 pm : link
Granderson is just horrid
But this is what happens  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 2:37 pm : link
When you issue lead off walks to shitty hitters
Wheeler struggles the third time thru the lineup  
oipolloi : 4/20/2014 2:42 pm : link
after pitch 50, the opposition is hitting .350 against him

maybe they should make him the closer

he has a dominant fastball but it flattens out later in the game
Chipper Jr  
Rflairr : 4/20/2014 2:43 pm : link
They don't have a clue how to get him out. Just walk him every time
these strikeouts are ridiculous  
oipolloi : 4/20/2014 3:09 pm : link
you really have to wonder what Sandy was thinking, putting together a lineup like this
Curtis Granderson fucking sucks so far.  
NyquistX3 : 4/20/2014 3:22 pm : link
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Huge pitch  
Mike in NY : 4/20/2014 3:27 pm : link
by Scott Rice
thank God for Uggla  
oipolloi : 4/20/2014 3:28 pm : link
he's been the Mets' whole offense today
Sandy has been a good  
steve in ky : 4/20/2014 3:32 pm : link
financial steward of the team when they really needed one. I don't know if he is the best GM moving forward as they try and build a contending team.
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