Top 12 picks - as it relates to NYG

QB, RB, G, C I can agree because they aren't taking a QB and the other positions don't have players with mid-high first round value. CB and Safety are possible as they have players of value (Dennard, Gilbert, Fuller, Pryor and Dix) and there is a need for young talent at both of those positions.

If no QBs are picked which sounds like it will happen that way ( many teams believe the QBS will be available in rd 2 or in Browns situation later in rd 1)Then I am making a Guess
Giants will take Zach Martin....but still hope Donald is there.

Seem quite likely, not sure of 10 and 11 being this high, but overall quite possible.
With so many teams 1-16, with so many needs,maybe except the Bears at 14, most of those names could end up anywhere in the top 12 teams in the draft; and the wild card is StL at 13, who I think go WR or Ol at 2, QB at 13.
What a fun draft night on May 8.

Atlanta has far bigger concerns than WR. I'm sure they aren't scrambling to replace White and Jones. Unfortunately I can see 1-5 and 7-11 nabbing Evans (more likely 7-11)

I might be alone in this but I feel like there are lots of receivers we can grab this year and we are in a position where we can grab BPA at 12 no matter what the position is. I would love getting Evans or Ebron, dgmw, but I wouldn't be mad at dennard or Donald or Lewan.

its a NYG specific ranking of the players

Expand the list to 17 and add the top five DBs. Until the Giants exercise Amukamara's option, cornerback is very much in play, and there happen to be two CBs with consensus grades pretty close to #12.

With Z. Martin on the list, you're not really excluding guards, since there's a good chance he would start out there. As for the WRs, Beckham at 12 would certainly be a surprise, though not a total shock. So in all, your list is pretty good aside from excluding the DBs.

Barr is the pick at 12

on a CB after signing a top 5 CB (DRC), a top 5 slot CB (Thurmond), another CB (Bowman), a solid albeit journeyman CB (McBride) and while the option on Prince isn't yet picked up, he's a Giant for 2014 at the least. Hard to imagine taking a CB when Evans or Martin or Lewan or Donald are sitting there.

I wouldn't be totally shocked as I agree that one QB, at most, gets picked before 12 and that'll take most of the "favorites" off the board

In comment 11630524 JOMO25 said:

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on a CB after signing a top 5 CB (DRC), a top 5 slot CB (Thurmond), another CB (Bowman), a solid albeit journeyman CB (McBride) and while the option on Prince isn't yet picked up, he's a Giant for 2014 at the least. Hard to imagine taking a CB when Evans or Martin or Lewan or Donald are sitting there.

I call bullshit. No offense though. Thurmond and bowman are on one year deals and prince is in his final year. I got MURDERED because i thought if the giants were to sign kevin williams then they wouldn't take a DT in round 1. Everyone got on me saying that it wouldn't affect them getting donald. If lewan evans ebron and donald are off, i would settle for martin but i would love dennard also.

who would you take a CB who wouldn't start (unless injury) over?

...it's not necessarily immediate need. Often, it's for need a year out. As things currently stand, CB will be a problem in 2015. And DRC is hardly the rock of stability you plan a defensive backfield around.

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who would you take a CB who wouldn't start (unless injury) over?

Barr because he doesn't fit and Hebron because he isn't good. But who I would put there doesn't matter. The Giants will not take CB or S off their board because of the FA signings. Not saying they will take one, but they might.

with glaring needs at WR, TE and OL....I expect a draft that looks like this:

1 Evans

2 Bitonio

3 Telvin Smith

4 CJ Fedo

5 Terrance West

5a Jeff Janis

6 Vinny Sunseri

Damn autocorrect

1. DE Clowney
2. LT Robinson
3. LT Matthews
4. WR Watkins
5. OLB Mack
6. WR Evans
7. DT Donald
8. TE Ebron
9. LT Lewan
10. OL Martin
11. WR Beckam
12. LB Barr

At worst, you end up w Martin. Not bad.

Maybe over Martin or Donald. Possibly even over Ebron or Lewan or Mack. If the Giants think the kid is the next Revis, no CB on the roster will prevent that pick.

Shutdown corner trumps big target.

is viewed as a top prospect.

Gilbert is an athlete but far from polished.

Dennard is the opposite.

Stephon Gilmore was #10 in 2012 despite wearing the same label as Gilbert: superior athlete with flawed technique.

Dre Kirkpatrick? Prince Amukamara? Malcolm Jenkins? Leodis McKelvin? Imperfect prospects, sure. If they had been perfect, the would have been picked even earlier.

And there are 1-2 safeties that need to be on the list.

had 3 top starting CBs plus outstanding depth

not to mention our holes at WR, TE, OL

Rolle.

are top 12 players

justin gilbert in there. if he was on board , and those was picks , we would have to take him