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NFT: Mets V Cards-Bobby Abreu era begins-Andrew Brown era ends

Headhunter : 4/21/2014 2:43 pm
Of course for just money the Mets could have bid on Jose Abreu who looks to be a difference maker, but that is another story
Surprised they didn't just send Kirk to AAA for regular AB's  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 2:48 pm : link
Not to mention that Brown allows you to give Granderson days off against lefties. There is nobody in the OF for Kirk to platoon with as EYJr is better from the left side and both Granderson and Kirk are lefties
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arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 2:56 pm : link
Pff.. who needs Jose Abreu when we've got the real thing. It's Bobby's World!
The Mets will sign Jose Abreu  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 2:57 pm : link
when he is 40. Just have to be patient
...  
DanMetroMan : 4/21/2014 2:57 pm : link
Mike Puma @NYPost_Mets
Was told the Mets still have not discussed whether they will make an offer to Joel Hanrahan.
Mets don't need that pederast  
Mad Mike : 4/21/2014 2:58 pm : link
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Why should they make an offer?  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 3:05 pm : link
they watched him throw, that should be enough to show the fans they are doing everything they can to get better
Mejia healed  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 4:27 pm : link
will start
90 win  
Giants2012 : 4/21/2014 6:06 pm : link
Frame of mind.

Allan Dykstra, PCL player of the week.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 6:29 pm : link
.450, 10 RBI, 2 HR's.. not a bad week.
RE: Why should they make an offer?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 6:39 pm : link
In comment 11630849 Headhunter said:
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they watched him throw, that should be enough to show the fans they are doing everything they can to get better


Sarcasm?
Mejia looks like he's dealing - hypothetical question  
Eric on Li : 4/21/2014 7:19 pm : link
If AZ or SEA offered Franklin or Gregorious straight up, would you do it?

I don't think I would but there's certainly an element of possibly selling high, plus at some point they're going to have to trade someone in the numbers crunch.
RE: Mejia looks like he's dealing - hypothetical question  
CGiants07 : 4/21/2014 7:25 pm : link
In comment 11631179 Eric on Li said:
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If AZ or SEA offered Franklin or Gregorious straight up, would you do it?

I don't think I would but there's certainly an element of possibly selling high, plus at some point they're going to have to trade someone in the numbers crunch.


nope but for owings for Arizona I would
For Owings I'd probably do it.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 7:36 pm : link
He's not a SP anyway, his mechanics are flawed.
Gregorius?  
DanMetroMan : 4/21/2014 7:54 pm : link
Absolutely no way. In fact I'd be furious.

Mejia should be in the rotation going forward. That's the bottom line. if they want to transition him to a pen situation when his innings become an issue so be it but this kid should be looked at as an MLB starter. Sorry.
Awesome uniforms  
Giants2012 : 4/21/2014 7:57 pm : link
Pants match the jersey well
Didi  
DanMetroMan : 4/21/2014 7:57 pm : link
is oddly extremely "over discussed" by Mets fans. This is a guy who wasn't even considered one of the top 15 SS prospects in baseball when the 2013 season started and he went on to put up a very Ruben Tejada-esque 2013 (including a truly awful final 4 months). Do I think he's better than Tejada? Absolutely. But Mejia has the stuff to be a LEGIT 2-3 starter.I'm not saying he's as good but he reminds me a lot of Cueto.
I'll trade a bat  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 7:58 pm : link
for a RBI
Why would you ever pitch to David Wright?  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 8:02 pm : link
There is no one else that can hit in the Met lineup
nice play  
ShocknAwe80 : 4/21/2014 8:04 pm : link
Tejada!!!!
I actually like Mejia's stuff more than Wheeler's to be honest.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 8:04 pm : link
I think if he holds up physically, it's not crazy to think he could wind up being the better pitcher.
Tejada inspires over discussing of any available SS with a pulse  
Eric on Li : 4/21/2014 8:05 pm : link
as he just makes his best defensive play of the year.
That was a flash of the Tejada of 2-years ago  
Ralph.C : 4/21/2014 8:07 pm : link
Can't take anything away from him on that one.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 4/21/2014 8:09 pm : link
just saying a Mejia for Didi trade could be fine... but the potential downside is absolutely massive. If Mejia stays healthy most would agree he could be a guy you want starting a playoff game for you, Gregorius realistic upside is "solid starter". I'd be pretty sick seeing Mejia become a bat missing all-star while Didi is a "solid" player for the Mets.
RE: Awesome uniforms  
Ralph.C : 4/21/2014 8:10 pm : link
In comment 11631217 Giants2012 said:
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Pants match the jersey well


Agreed. That is Fashion Week shit right there.
Thats a HR for d'Arnaud  
Rflairr : 4/21/2014 8:13 pm : link
in almost every other ballpark. unreal
Remember  
DanMetroMan : 4/21/2014 8:14 pm : link
everyone is penciling in Wheeler for improvement and greatness, Mejia turns 25 in October, Wheeler 24 next month. Wheeler has made 21 MLB starts, Mejia is starting #15 (and most would agree he's been jerked around quite a bit). Mejia could be quite good. I don't care if he's 6'0 or 6'7.
Montero is the same  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 8:16 pm : link
" 6 feet" as Mejia
wow  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 8:20 pm : link
what a DP!
Im loving Mejia's  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:20 pm : link
off speed tonight. That curve and slider is reminiscent of 2013. Mejia is awesome. I don't think anybody's surprised he's been our best starter.
Reuben Tejada . . .  
Ralph.C : 4/21/2014 8:20 pm : link
. . . ALL STAR! lol
Wow is right  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:21 pm : link
dayum.
Gteat dp  
Ira : 4/21/2014 8:21 pm : link
!!!
Mejia can pitch  
oipolloi : 4/21/2014 8:23 pm : link
his change and slider are both big league pitches. The only reason you consider trading him is his injury history.

Im still drooling  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:25 pm : link
on a 2015 rotation of Harvey, Mejia, Wheeler, Syndergaard, and Montero. Trade Gee, Neise, and Colon for a couple pieces. Its going to be time next year. Maybe keep Gee as the 5th starter to guard against injury and keep Montero in AAA but Montero seems pretty ready right now, let alone a year from now. We'll still have Degrom and talking about Matz super 2 next year as well.
Tough tough series  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:29 pm : link
These pitchers we've been going against isn't going to help these hitters bust out although Darnaud looks like he already is somewhat. I just want to split this series with the Cards and take 2 from the Marlins.
Ike Davis with a  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 8:29 pm : link
Grand Slam. Carry on
So we drop the one OF  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 8:29 pm : link
Who bats right handed and can get Granderson out of the line-up against lefties for ANOTHER lefty bat
Damn HH  
ShocknAwe80 : 4/21/2014 8:31 pm : link
you beast me to the Ike post.

Love the Ike... Miss the Ike... Too bad he was unable to be successful here.
Ike just hit a  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:31 pm : link
another grand slam. ugh.
Heh.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 8:34 pm : link
Does it surprise anyone?

Like I said, just prepare for Ike to turn into a 35 HR player now that he's gone. We kept the wrong guy.. too late now, though.
I hope Ike does well  
steve in ky : 4/21/2014 8:35 pm : link
But even if he does that doesn't mean he would have succeeded at Citi field. If anyone ever needed a change of scenery it was Ike.

Its going to sting me  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:37 pm : link
though for a while. I was firmly in the Ike over Duda camp. Im not even sure Brown is ever going to show the power that Ike has and I fully understand Im getting WAY ahead of myself.
Ike was dead in NY  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 8:38 pm : link
he was never going to do it again as a Met. I hope he does great against everyone except the Mets. He had to go
I don't get how people  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:40 pm : link
can say Ike never would have succeeded at Citifield when he already turned in a 32 home run season there and lit it up for 4 months or so only a little over a year ago. He was also very good in spurts in other years but just had injuries and weird things happen to keep him back. He's still young enough where I would have given him one more chance this year. He had already fixed most of his problems in Vegas last year from what I saw.
I don't know if I buy that.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 8:41 pm : link
They basically handed Duda the job and gave him the advantage out of the gates. I think they should have given Ike one more real good look. Maybe it would have worked out, maybe not. But after he hit that GS, he should have stayed in the lineup for a bit. He got one start after that, got 2 more hits then he got yanked out of the lineup for a few games and they started jerking everyone around again.
Thats a little bit  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:42 pm : link
ridiculous HH. To speak in absolutes like that is completely over the top. Because Sandy chose Duda over Ike and let it be known that AUTOMATICALLY assumes Ike's little soul was crushed and could never succeed here again?? Thats some leap.
arc...  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:46 pm : link
Exactly. And Ike's entire approach was much much better since coming back up from vegas last year. He may not have hit a lot of homeuns in September last year but it isn't arguable he was a much better hitter. He talked about it himself in spring training this year in that he wasn't swinging at pitches outside of the zone anymore. He had no idea what he was doing for most of last year before that. He never got a fair chance this year and with his pedigree and ceiling I would have given him another look.
Nice hit, TDA.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 8:47 pm : link
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Darnuad  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:48 pm : link
is finally getting results. He's been roping balls right at players for a few weeks now. Finally getting them to fall.
He was finished in NY  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 8:48 pm : link
kaput, the only reason he made it Spring Training was Alderson didn't get what he wanted. The " competition" in ST was bogus and it was a matter of time. That time came and there is no looking back
Sure...  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:52 pm : link
he was finished in NY. And in one of his only plate appearances of the year he came in, in a high pressure situation and hit a grand slam. Definitely finished. We know that for sure obviously.
Guy is struggling  
Rflairr : 4/21/2014 8:52 pm : link
And Meija and Young go up there and swing at the first pitch. lol
Meant to say Smith earlier.  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 8:53 pm : link
lol. Not Brown.
RE: Guy is struggling  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 8:54 pm : link
In comment 11631307 Rflairr said:
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And Meija and Young go up there and swing at the first pitch. lol


Mejia is a pitcher for crying out loud. You really need to stop complaining for the sake of complaining
You really don't get that Ike had nothing to do  
Headhunter : 4/21/2014 9:01 pm : link
with it anymore. Alderson made a decision to after last season to get rid of Ike Davis. Period, end of story. It was only a question of when. Now we know the answer to that
Ugh, Rice better not fucking blow this for him.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:02 pm : link
He pitched so well tonight
what channel is this game on?  
Rory : 4/21/2014 9:04 pm : link
SNY is showing boxing and ESPN is the Reds Vs Pirates. ugh
RE: what channel is this game on?  
spike : 4/21/2014 9:05 pm : link
In comment 11631317 Rory said:
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SNY is showing boxing and ESPN is the Reds Vs Pirates. ugh


WPIX?
Ho boy.. that was close.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:05 pm : link
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That may be true  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:06 pm : link
HH but as arc, me, and others are saying, he likely chose the wrong guy. I hope Duda does great but I would have kept Ike and given him one more shot. Im disagreeing with Sandy's decision not with what happened. We all know what happened and that Duda was the choice.
6 more outs  
spike : 4/21/2014 9:06 pm : link
for Mejia to go 3-0
So another game for Mejia  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:07 pm : link
without allowing a run. NICE!
Mejia is taking  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2014 9:07 pm : link
any decision out of the hands of management and the FO, he's pitching better than anyone on the team.

He needs to do it consistently for a bunch of starts in a row, but he's making a strong case to be part of that rotation when they contend.

lol, yeah because Alderson has such a great history of good decisions  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:08 pm : link
since joining the Mets. I'm not crying over losing Ike because the FO had made their decision. But Ike has a much higher ceiling than Duda. The whole situation is just strange...but i guess that's normal with the mets.
Looking back  
NewBlue : 4/21/2014 9:09 pm : link
in the Mets half of the 6th we had basses loaded 1 out...am I the only one who wanted us to pinch hit for Mejia?
Duda  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2014 9:09 pm : link
isn't the long-term solution at 1B.

Ike had more value and he was not the answer for the Mets, so you trade him.

Duda is playing 1b by default.
Either way  
spike : 4/21/2014 9:09 pm : link
Dominic Smith is the future at 1b in 2-3 years. Ike or Duda are simply placeholders
lets start taking bets  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:10 pm : link
who thinks that Granderson can get his BA under .100? I'm thinking yes.

That would really be something.
I just hated the way they approached it.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:10 pm : link
Ike really never got a fair shot this year. The FO already had their minds made up about Duda because they love him and his awesome OBP. How was a dude in Ike's shoes supposed to get going this year?
I could see both sides I guess  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2014 9:13 pm : link
after the GS agree, he probably earned more playing time.

but if I never saw Ike in a Mets uniform again it would be too soon.
I'm thinking that Ike must have really just pissed off the FO to  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:14 pm : link
trade him for what will probably end up being garbage. It was no secret that he had a shitty attitude.
Well...  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:14 pm : link
Slowly but surely guys are waking up. Obviously Wright and Murphy have heated up. Darnaud seems to be coming out of it. Duda has been pretty consistent. Just need Granderson to bust out and C. Young to do what he did all spring and we'll be off and running.

Also Flores is waking up in AAA with the bat, and even though he does have 4 errors, early reports are that he's showing much better range than expected and is making all the routine throws but is just having trouble with some decision making and hesitating and whatnot. That should get better as he gets more comfortable. Im still rooting for him.
Dominic Smith  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:17 pm : link
is 6'0 tall. Do we really think he's going to be blasting 40 homeuns at 1st? Im rooting for him but I doubt it.
speaking of attitude, I was watching espn earlier and they were  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:20 pm : link
interviewing Bryce Harper and Mike Trout (separately) about how they are often compared to one another and Harper came off as a raging douchebag while Trout came off quite humble. What a sense of entitlement that bag of dicks Harper has.
Part of it has to do with the way  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:23 pm : link
the team is constructed as well. This team is completely devoid of power in its lineup and we really don't have any power prospects on the horizon any time soon. Ike just hit 32 home runs a little over a year ago and hit 20 of those in half a year. I don't think this team could have afforded to throw Ike away without giving him another shot this year. But they did. Oh well.
Harvey :(  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:27 pm : link
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Torres has been real good.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:28 pm : link
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nice job by torres  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:28 pm : link
Lets tack on some runs
its nice to see Harvey hanging out in the dugout  
PhiPsi125 : 4/21/2014 9:29 pm : link
I really hope he shapes back into form
Torres  
NewBlue : 4/21/2014 9:30 pm : link
Consistently good.......
Now to Farnsworth
If Ike turns into a  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:31 pm : link
35 homerun beast this year with Pittsburgh, thats exactly the kind of thing that could have happened to us this year to turn us into a fringe contender this year as well. Ike was a wild card for sure, but thats exactly the sort of unknown production this team could have desperately needed. Im still hoping Duda shocks the world and hits 30 home runs but Im not counting on it.

Torres has been better than good.  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:32 pm : link
Going back to last year he has been one of the best relievers in baseball. Its time we start giving him his due.
RE: Torres has been better than good.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/21/2014 9:39 pm : link
In comment 11631368 ZGiants98 said:
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Going back to last year he has been one of the best relievers in baseball. Its time we start giving him his due.


If you say that too loud Collins will Scott Rice him and ruin his arm.
Molina  
Mike in NY : 4/21/2014 9:41 pm : link
Always seems to get on base against us
Great turn.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:43 pm : link
2 down, no one on. Finish this up.
I said Torres was has been real good.. not just "good"  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:44 pm : link
But yeah.

1 more out.
Already feel like  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:45 pm : link
Collins is Rice-ing Torres as he's very good on leftys.

And while we are giving out credit, how about Murphy defensively? He started out rough last year but he looks damn good most the time.
Wasn't directed at you arc  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:46 pm : link
just saying in general.
Farnsworth hit 96 on that last FB..  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 9:46 pm : link
At least he's getting some velo back.
Nice to get this first one  
ZGiants98 : 4/21/2014 9:47 pm : link
Wacha and Wainwright coming up isn't going to be fun.
Next two nights  
sshin05 : 4/21/2014 9:52 pm : link
Will be tough. Hopefully they will breakthrough somehow.
Didn't see a game thread...  
JayBinQueens : 4/21/2014 10:48 pm : link
Is anyone surprised Ike hit a grand slam to help the Pirates win 6-5 tonight?
whoa - just saw the highlights -  
Del Shofner : 4/21/2014 10:54 pm : link
good going Mets, but those uni's ...
Is Farnsworth now the closer  
Ira : 4/21/2014 11:32 pm : link
?
Yep.  
arcarsenal : 4/21/2014 11:54 pm : link
Personally, I wouldn't have even named one.. I don't think it's necessary unless you've got a proven, bonafide guy who warrants it (we clearly don't)

He got it done tonight, though. Good enough for now.
Hanrahan news  
Eric on Li : 4/21/2014 11:55 pm : link
Mike Puma ‏@NYPost_Mets 40m
According to a Mets official, the earliest Joel Hanrahan will probably pitch in the big leagues is mid-June. But Mets are interested.
Did anyone see Ike Davis' broken-bat Grand Slam?  
Anakim : 4/22/2014 12:58 am : link
Impressive
heard about it  
GMenLTS : 4/22/2014 7:45 am : link
it would be quite fitting for him to completely resurrect the hot start to his career after we decide to trade him.
RE: Did anyone see Ike Davis' broken-bat Grand Slam?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/22/2014 8:21 am : link
In comment 11631524 Anakim said:
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Impressive


It's happening quicker than I thought. I know he probably needed to not be here anymore, but we're going to regret trading him.
Sorry that I didn't check in last night, I  
BigBlueBuff : 4/22/2014 9:43 am : link
only got home at 8pm (busy time of year) and by the time I checked in it was obvious that the Cardinals weren't hitting again and that to bother with another game where Matheny brings Shane-effing-Robinson off the bench in a high leverage pinch hit situation was just not going to bring the best out of me.

The Cardinals have Taveras, Grichuk, Butler, and Piscotty hitting well in AAA and yet they go with Bourjos, Robinson, Descalso on the bench, don't use Kolten Wong, and refuse to sit Allen Craig who is in a season long slump. I feel like the Cardinals are like the New York Philharmonic being conducted by an amateur: They still sound great but they could be so much better if they had a competent leader.
I'm fine  
Metnut : 4/22/2014 9:57 am : link
with trading Davis, but I didn't really see what rush to annoint Duda with the job. Why not hold on a little longer and see if Davis looked to have it together? I understand having 2 lefty 1B who need ABs is not ideal, but sometimes you have to wait until you have more information before pulling the trigger on a move.

I'll be able to deal with it if Ike Davis has a good year for Pitt. I won't be able to deal with this if Duda ends up being a complete bust. Our scouts took a look at both guys and made their mind up. They at least need Duda to play like a legit MLB 1B starter for me not to lose a lot of faith in our front-office.
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