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NFT: New York Rangers @ Philadelphia Flyers Game Thread

BrettNYG10 : 4/22/2014 11:51 am
Time for the big guns to get this series back on track.

Fuck the fucking Flyers and everything in Philadelphia.

Lundqvist needs to step the fuck up.
Our goalie isn't the problem.  
NH Giants : 4/22/2014 12:08 pm : link
Our goal scorers need to step up.
Henrik might not be a "problem",  
kmed : 4/22/2014 12:19 pm : link
but he needs to step his game up. In the playoffs, when the ice is tilted, you need your goalie to carry you. Much like he's done in the international tournaments. He hasn't done that nearly enough for the Rangers and he certainly didn't do that in game 2.
Lundqvist needs to be the best player on the ice.  
BrettNYG10 : 4/22/2014 12:26 pm : link
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Game 1 PP would be nice..  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 12:37 pm : link
Not the game 2 PP shitshow.

Just F'in WIN Baby!!  
Run with 81 : 4/22/2014 12:43 pm : link
Nasher needs to bury his chances... Would love to see MSL have a break out game (Hat Trick anybody!) but woud be happy with A goal & assists... How 'bout a 4th line goal?? Obviously I wouldn't complain if Step, Zuc, McD/Staal (anyone on D scoring) Pouliot, Brass... Hags!! WE NEED to FINISH our chances!!

SHHOOOOOT THE PUCK!!!!! Get it on goal & pick up the trash. MSL was hanging at the goal mouth while Sir Richards was stick handling all over the place in G-2. MSL kept switching sides of the goal as Brad roamed. (me personally I think MSl was a bit fustrated at that sequence of events)

Hank DEF needs to get back to his-old-self and "steal" a FEW games. (I use the term steal loosely) (sp?) Just need him to come up with a few amazing saves as we know he's capable of!!

Me I'm cracking out some eggplant parm for a Victory!
This Ranger team is a little more skilled  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 12:46 pm : link
than some of the Torts blood and guts teams, but we're still not good enough to win without Hank bringing his A game

Time for the King to stand on his fucking head
they should be able to beat emery tonight  
B in ALB : 4/22/2014 12:53 pm : link
He really didn't do much last game as the rangers repeatedly pounded the puck into his chest. They need to finish better. The guy isn't great.

And I hope McDonagh gets back on track. He's been pedestrian at best. Not good enough.
Shoot the friggin puck  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 12:55 pm : link
and stop passing it between players which aren't skating. The PP, especially the 4 on 3 was nothing more than a fixed box defended by a fixed triangle. Skate around and fire the biscuit.
nothing confirmed  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 12:56 pm : link
But it sounds like Carcillo will be in the lineup.

I think Dorsett can skate with Richards and Hagelin. Makes them firmer with the tradeoff being less offense..
I'm all for playing Carcillo  
jv : 4/22/2014 1:04 pm : link
against Philly. He's the one player on our team that effectively agitates Philly and gets guys like Simmonds and Hartnell off their game.
RE: Shoot the friggin puck  
BrettNYG10 : 4/22/2014 1:06 pm : link
In comment 11632178 Giants2012 said:
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and stop passing it between players which aren't skating. The PP, especially the 4 on 3 was nothing more than a fixed box defended by a fixed triangle. Skate around and fire the biscuit.


We've been getting enough shots on net. We were jittery with the puck. I'd rather play a more puck possession focused game and get better shots.
Jittery with the puck?  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 1:10 pm : link
It's they're passing too much. If you want pick possession the go battle in the corners. Non--stop passing is results on turnovers and unforced errors more often than shots let alone goals.
Typing from iPhone  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 1:11 pm : link
So the English is a bit broken
Best Road Team in Rangers History  
NVA_Blue : 4/22/2014 1:11 pm : link
Lets fucking bury this scummy squad tonight and be on with it.
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arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 1:12 pm : link
They were trying to be too cute on that 4-on-3... cycling the puck does nothing if you're not moving the defenders and opening any space up. The Rangers did nothing to exploit the man advantage there.

In a situation like that, you want to get set up and establish position but then you've got to start moving and you've got to get their guys on their heels and the puck on the net. Don't have to shoot every single time the puck is possessed but they were too stagnant. They did a beautiful job on the PP in game 1. More of that will be crucial.
They did a beautiful everything in Game 1  
MetsAreBack : 4/22/2014 1:39 pm : link
and everything about Game 2 stunk. My Easter eggs are still rotten from having to sit there and watch that display.

Not only does Hank need to step it up... McD needs to get that shoulder healthy and start playing like the phenominal D-man we all know he is... and our forwards need to start finishing their opportunities...

...but all eyes on AV tonight too. He's notorious for getting outcoached come April & May. Berube made some critical adjustments in game 2 that paid off... now its up to AV to counter.

Your move, Coach.
They just piss me off to no end. How do you not show up  
Victor in CT : 4/22/2014 2:57 pm : link
for Game 2 with a chance to take control of the series at home? That was a disgraceful effort on Sunday
disgraceful effort?  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 3:25 pm : link
I think we watched a different game.

I saw the Rangers control the play and get more shots. I saw a lack of execution on chances and a couple of brain farts that ended up in the Rangers net, but nothing closely resembling "disgraceful effort"..
Disgraceful effort is an exagerration,  
kmed : 4/22/2014 3:41 pm : link
but they certainly took their foot off the gas after that 2-0 lead. The Flyers controlled the play for the majority of the game after that as the Rangers tried to get their groove back. Once you lose it, it's hard to get it back, that's why you need that killer instinct and step on their throats.
RE: disgraceful effort?  
BrettNYG10 : 4/22/2014 3:43 pm : link
In comment 11632623 Davisian said:
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I think we watched a different game.

I saw the Rangers control the play and get more shots. I saw a lack of execution on chances and a couple of brain farts that ended up in the Rangers net, but nothing closely resembling "disgraceful effort"..


I thought they had dead legs and played sloppy in the third. Should be better today. Not a disgraceful effort.
RE: They just piss me off to no end. How do you not show up  
arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 3:43 pm : link
In comment 11632552 Victor in CT said:
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for Game 2 with a chance to take control of the series at home? That was a disgraceful effort on Sunday


Welcome to playoff hockey.
the third period was pretty bad given the circumstances  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 4:00 pm : link
But they did control the play for the majority of the first two periods. Hank really needed to make the save on the third goal.
according to Blueshirt Banter Carcillo is replacing Dorsett  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 4:05 pm : link
not Fast? Is that correct?
nobody knows  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 4:10 pm : link
But I sincerely doubt he sits Dorsett..
.  
arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 4:21 pm : link
I wouldn't be surprised at all. I don't think AV feels he needs both Dorsett and Carcillo. I think he wants to stick to trying to outskate and out chance them. He's probably stressed discipline 100x since Sunday.
But Dorsett has shown speed  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 4:24 pm : link
He's been in on the forecheck and his only discipline "gaffe" was a bullshit diving call.
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arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 4:27 pm : link
Fast should be the one Carcillo is replacing.. makes more sense. But if it's not, I'm assuming his rationale is something along those lines.
STFU ARC  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 4:30 pm : link
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Mason is the backup tonight,  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 5:33 pm : link
so presumably we're running out of time to take advantage of Emery.
RE: STFU ARC  
BrettNYG10 : 4/22/2014 5:33 pm : link
In comment 11632803 Davisian said:
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This.
Not sure sunday was 'disgraceful'  
MetsAreBack : 4/22/2014 5:51 pm : link

but I'm not sure how anyone could conclude that the Rangers "controlled the play" sunday either.

Bad day at the office... burn the tape, get it back tonight.

LGFR!!
RE: RE: STFU ARC  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 5:52 pm : link
In comment 11632976 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 11632803 Davisian said:


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This.


This again
RE: RE: RE: STFU ARC  
arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 5:57 pm : link
In comment 11633011 redbeard said:
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In comment 11632976 BrettNYG10 said:


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In comment 11632803 Davisian said:


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This.



This again


This. Again.
Phuck you philly  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 7:46 pm : link
Emotions are rising.

Fearless Forecast

Rangers 4 Phucks 3
Let's fucking go boys!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:01 pm : link
Time to step up and play Ranger road hockey! Give them nothing, choke those fuckers off, frustrate them into taking more stupid penalties and for the love of god convert on the PP!!!
"Everyone's wearing orange"  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:12 pm : link
Except the 40% of them that are Rangers' fans...
Zucc with a great scoring chance  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:16 pm : link
But couldn't pull the trigger
There are not 40% ranger fans there  
Essex : 4/22/2014 8:18 pm : link
That I can see
Steps!  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:19 pm : link
...
Stepan!  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:19 pm : link
.
Fuck yeah!!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:19 pm : link
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Tough angle, nice finish by Step  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 8:20 pm : link
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That's the Ray Emery I know  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:20 pm : link
Nice play Steps!
Steps!  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:20 pm : link
Here we go, boys
Stepan  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 8:22 pm : link
is the man.
Wayne Simmonds is such a dirtbag  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:24 pm : link
Always nice to see him head to the box.
Simmonds is a real piece of shit  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:24 pm : link
...
They just can't help  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:24 pm : link
themselves ...thugs!
What a slime ball  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:24 pm : link
Make that cunt pay
What a f'n loser  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 8:24 pm : link
If you're going to cross-check a guy to the face, at least own up to it. None of this "what me" crap on an obvious dirty penalty.
There's your makeup call  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
McDonald goes down like he's been shot.
Retaliation penalty  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
Not smart
Come on, poos  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
Keep it together
So fucking obvious  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
and stupid!
Why  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
not embellishment on that? You know since they called two ridiculous ones against the Rangers to wipe away PP's last game
Um  
Servo : 4/22/2014 8:26 pm : link
embellishment?
There is no cuntier bunch of dripping cunts  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:32 pm : link
Than the flyers. My hatred for this organization borders on absurd
MSL!  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:34 pm : link
....
Marty!!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:34 pm : link
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MSL!  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 8:34 pm : link
Can we do a better job with a 2-0 lead tonight please.
St Louis!!!  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 8:34 pm : link
Rangers 2, Cunts 0!!!
MSL with the deflection  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:34 pm : link
Very nice. Now, don't let up after 2-0 this time.
Hartnell is every bit the piece of shit that Simmonds is  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:35 pm : link
...
The dreaded 2 zip lead  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:36 pm : link
Make it 3 now boys!!!
The first line is producing.  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 8:36 pm : link
Now don't go to sleep!
Wow, that was nice by Emery  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 8:36 pm : link
Thought that was going in for sure
Damn  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:39 pm : link
Stepan was so close to making it 3-0
Man  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 8:39 pm : link
These guys are some cunts.

NO MERCY! SWEEP THE LEG!
3rd goal is huge  
Kyle in NY : 4/22/2014 8:41 pm : link
That was a pretty nice save and a great opportunity on the PP
Big save, Hank  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:41 pm : link
...
Simmonds is a knuckle-dragging asshole  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:44 pm : link
And that fucking dick Hartnell isn't far behind



DESTROY THEM
Flyers are creating a pile on front of the net  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 8:44 pm : link
wish Jeff Beukeboom could jump on the ice and clear that shit
So far this series  
Matt M. : 4/22/2014 8:44 pm : link
has you reconsidering the trade for St. Louis, huh?

As for Sunday, even up 2-1, the Rangers were never in control. The Flyers controlled the action and tempo pretty much the whole way.
Oh man  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:46 pm : link
Boyle almost slammed one home on the breakaway.
Boyle  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:47 pm : link
is doing some nice things this series but damnit please finish one of those chances Boyle
Gotta convert on some of these PPs boys  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:49 pm : link
Third time's a charm tonight.
C'mon boys!!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:49 pm : link
Makeit 3 zip going to intermission.
He didn't miss that one by much  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:49 pm : link
off the arm, then the post.

Brain dead  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:49 pm : link
play by Pouliot for the second time. What the fuck is wrong with him
Nevermind  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:50 pm : link
It lasted 5 seconds as Pouliot commits another penalty.
Fucking Pouliot again?!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:50 pm : link
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Pouliot needs to take a seat  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:50 pm : link
That's two terrible penalties to negate power plays.
That is insanity.  
Essex : 4/22/2014 8:50 pm : link
Somebody needs to speak to pouliot, quickly.
Of course  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 8:51 pm : link
...
Wow, they just handed Philly a goal  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:51 pm : link
WTF are you guys doing?
And here we fucking go  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 8:51 pm : link
Lock it down, boys



We are NOT losing to these fucking cunts again
Pouliot  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:51 pm : link
single handedly keeping them in this game. Take a fucking seat.

Then I have no fucking clue what the Rangers did on that pass, he threw a fucking pass into a guy that was sitting on the ice. Fucking brutal
Just had to give them an opening.  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 8:51 pm : link
JFC
boy was that ever Keystone Kops  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 8:52 pm : link
Mark fucking Streit. You can't make this shit up
Just means the Flyers won't get shut out  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:52 pm : link
We're still in control.
Saw this shit  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 8:52 pm : link
the other day.
We've given  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:52 pm : link
them life again w a couple of foolish gaffes.
How does Puoliot  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:54 pm : link
look at his coaches and teammates in the face at intermission after the shit he pulled in a first period that the Rangers thoroughly dominated until he pulled his shit.
Yeah  
Servo : 4/22/2014 8:55 pm : link
They were absolutely dominating again and the dumbass penalty gave it right back.
I still have no idea what Richards was doing on that turnover  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 8:55 pm : link
Just unbelievable
Here's a thought  
Kyle in NY : 4/22/2014 8:56 pm : link
Kick this fucking team when they're down and stop letting them back into the game and series with brain dead mistakes. Good grief.
These last two games are like microcosm of the season  
Essex : 4/22/2014 8:57 pm : link
They look good in spurts but then they do shit that just makes you shake your head. I am in shock we are not up 3-0.

What is that saying, the third goal is always the most important goal
The first Pouliot penatly  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 8:57 pm : link
was stupid but the second one was just brainless and completely unnecessary. Get you fucking head screwed on straight #67!
RE: Here's a thought  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 8:58 pm : link
In comment 11633394 Kyle in NY said:
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Kick this fucking team when they're down and stop letting them back into the game and series with brain dead mistakes. Good grief.


Everyone except for Pouliot was trying to kick them when they were down. Last game it was breakdowns by a bunch of different people that let them off the mat. And then the idiot gives an extra cross check after taking a stupid penalty and potentially risks another one.
On the Flyer goal  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 8:58 pm : link
It looked like someone skated into McDonagh while he was on the ground. How do you not see that and avoid him? Play never should've happened.
Stupid fucking bullshit is the only reason it's close  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 9:00 pm : link
It's clear we are a better team but it seems that we have the discipline and killer instinct of a much lesser team



Wake the FUCK up and play smart, boys
This bunch of cunts is perfect  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:01 pm : link
For Philadelphia.

And fuck you Pouliot
Mook, I'm still frustrated with game 2 as well  
Kyle in NY : 4/22/2014 9:03 pm : link
But you're right, it was really just one guy being brain dead
Although it was another play  
Kyle in NY : 4/22/2014 9:04 pm : link
Thts not going on McD's highlight reel on that goal.
McDonagh really shit the bed  
B in ALB : 4/22/2014 9:08 pm : link
Leading to that second goal. First he bangs a pass off the cage, then he loses his balance and runs into Richards, then gets beat back on the counter. He's clearly not the same guy after Morrow hit him.

And Pouliot. Holy fuckin shit. What the Fuck are you doing? He needs to sit on the pps. Throw Boyle in front of the net on the man advantage.
McDonagh  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:11 pm : link
should have drawn a penalty on Giroux when he went down, thats not on him. I'm also not sure where the fuck they were trying to pass the puck
McDonagh  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:16 pm : link
looks fine physically he just looks rusty to me.
This own zone turnovers are going to kill us  
Essex : 4/22/2014 9:18 pm : link
. . .
Faster trigger, Brass  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:19 pm : link
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Hope  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:19 pm : link
it was just a skate thing w MSL. He did lose an edge and went down earlier.
Girardi!  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
...
Girardi!!  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
With the ripper!!!
Danny G!!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
.
HELL YEAH!  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
Girardi!
Soooo nice to get that next one.  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
Fuck those fuckers.
Yes!!!  
Essex : 4/22/2014 9:20 pm : link
Man was I nervous, 2nd period started like crap. Let's go
New  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 9:21 pm : link
Script!
Boom  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 9:21 pm : link
Fuck philly
Simmonds even scamming it up  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:28 pm : link
On the bench. Piece of shit
Wow  
Servo : 4/22/2014 9:30 pm : link
Flyer fans are absolute scum. Let's cheer when a guy gets hit near the throat with a slapshot.
What classless bums  
Essex : 4/22/2014 9:30 pm : link
These Philly fans when carcillo went to the ground
Have I mentioned what a cunt Simmonds is?  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 9:31 pm : link
...
Simmonds going  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:31 pm : link
after Nash too...
Again, we can't be happy with a lead and have to give them  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 9:35 pm : link
an opening. Stupid penalty yet again.
the fucking flyers  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:35 pm : link
get a power play out of that after Voracheck starts all that garbage, give me a fucking break
Look at who the Flyers are coached by  
dpinzow : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
a big-time cheap shot artist in his day who also got more fighting majors than anyone (Craig Berube)
What a bunch of fucking bullshit  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
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Fucking Carcillo  
Deej : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
Though Im not sure why Hags is getting a penalty.
COmplete  
Servo : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
horseshit
These fucking Flyers make my blood boil  
BurberryManning : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
Hags could serve to add a few pounds of muscle so we dont confuse him with a 12 year old girl but fuck Giroux and the Philly crowd that cheers a Carcillo injury
What was the call on Carcillo?!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
Extending his arms on Giroux? What a joke!
Oh get the fuck out of here  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
Voracheck can have his stick up at Hagelins next to start a fight, but Carcillo face washes Giroux and they wind up with a power play.

Crooked fucking officials
Mook  
Essex : 4/22/2014 9:36 pm : link
Carcillo was a moron. He deserved to go. For such a disciplined team, we are playing like dopes.
These bottom-feeders could be coached by the pope himself  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 9:37 pm : link
And they'd still behave like classless pieces of trash


It's Philly...it's the way they're made
Oh piss off Essex  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:38 pm : link
Carcillo did something that has been done 20 times already this game and got a penalty for it
Carcillo was 3rd man in  
Deej : 4/22/2014 9:39 pm : link
that's kind of shove invites a penalty if a fight is already happening.
Carcillo extended his arms  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:39 pm : link
on Giroux as he was skating towards him? That's not a penatly in any context but Hags getting punched repeatedly with his gloves on is roughing? Gimme a fucking break!
Eh, Carcillo probably deserved that call  
BurberryManning : 4/22/2014 9:39 pm : link
but I wont mind it if the Rangers kill this off
exactly  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 9:40 pm : link
Philly pulls that shit all the time and doesn't get called for it, and giving Hagelin a matching minor was total horseshit. Voracek started the whole fucking team. This team is such scum.
Philly is absolute trash  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 9:40 pm : link
but the Rangers have been taking the stupidest penalties. Its unreal.
How does  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:41 pm : link
Hagelin get 2 minutes for roughing there?
RE: Carcillo extended his arms  
Deej : 4/22/2014 9:41 pm : link
In comment 11633499 Stufftherun said:
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on Giroux as he was skating towards him? That's not a penatly in any context but Hags getting punched repeatedly with his gloves on is roughing? Gimme a fucking break!


We'll Im with you on the Hags aspect. I have no idea what he was called for.
Voracek is some badass going after Carl Hagelin  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 9:41 pm : link
All 5"11" 175 pounds of him
Fucking Dorsett!!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:42 pm : link
Wtf!!!
This game is being called unevenly  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:43 pm : link
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These are weak calls  
Kyle in NY : 4/22/2014 9:43 pm : link
in the playoffs.
Another stupid penalty  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 9:43 pm : link
We are seriously undisciplined right now and just inviting them back in the game.
Carcillo is a penalty every time  
Essex : 4/22/2014 9:44 pm : link
Haglin was a bs call. He got mugged, that wasn't a fight.
Ughh  
BurberryManning : 4/22/2014 9:44 pm : link
THAT call looked like bullshit
WTF  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 9:45 pm : link
I've seen Simmonds make that same hit 3 or 4 times this game and no calls on them.
Clear the fucking puck  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 9:46 pm : link
They're like monkeys fucking a football
They didn't forget everything Torts taught them  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 9:46 pm : link
about blocking shots.
Carcillo's is a penalty every time? Bullshit  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 9:47 pm : link
If it were, the Flyers would get called for that alone five times every single game.
Solid penalty kill right there  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 9:47 pm : link
now stay out of the fucking box!
The first few calls were because we were playing undisciplined  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 9:48 pm : link
The last handful are total BS. Call it close or let them play, you fucking zebra fucks
Henrik was really sharp in those last few minutes.  
yatqb : 4/22/2014 9:49 pm : link
Great save toward the end of the PK.
you have to love  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 9:50 pm : link
the analyst saying it was a bad call then saying well if the refs called it then its good enough for me.

Dorsett didnt deserve shit, thats a good shoulder on shoulder hit, fuck these zebras
A nice 20 minute  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 9:53 pm : link
Ranger road period with discipline and taking advantage of their chances when they present themselves. Is that asking too much?!
Rangers got outplayed for most of that period  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 9:55 pm : link
but managed to increase the lead. 3rd period's going to be some fuckin serious playoff hockey
how is Giroux's skate  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 9:58 pm : link
move on the faceoff legal?
RE: how is Giroux's skate  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:00 pm : link
In comment 11633552 nygmen84 said:
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move on the faceoff legal?


Agreed, the league should take a look at that bullshit.
Get pucks deep and grind. No more grab-ass  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:01 pm : link
In the neutral zone
Mook  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:02 pm : link
I think they called a charge because he took more than two strides immediately before contact. Borderline call.
Thank you,  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:12 pm : link
Mr. Post.
Wow  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:14 pm : link
Hank got his stick on it before it hit the crossbar.
ha ha  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 10:14 pm : link
are these guys deaf? For anyone watching on CNBC, it was pretty fucking loud when it hit the cross bar and they somehow didnt hear it
when are we going to shoot the puck?  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:16 pm : link
we are always looking to pass instead of putting it on goal against an average goaltender.
Fucking cheap shot by giroux  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:17 pm : link
That should be a suspension
Ugh  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:17 pm : link
that looked really bad. I hope its not around his eye.
What happened there?  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 10:18 pm : link
They couldn't find a replay yet
Looked to me like the flyer threw an elbow  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:18 pm : link
Typical dirtbag move
Looked like an elbow or shoulder to the  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
jaw.
How  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
is there no penalty?? Point of contact was the head!
That definitely  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
isn't a penalty, good job you fucking jerkoff officials
That should be a suspension  
Deej : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
.
My mistake  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
Reed.

Pussy.
Just caught up, was watching on delay  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
That was some cheap ass dirty bullshit.
Scum, total scum  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 10:19 pm : link
Fuck this team
Are you fucking kidding me?  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:20 pm : link
Someone run Read...that is filthy bullshit
That was absolutely intentional  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:20 pm : link
...
remember hags got 2 games for that bs elbow against  
Essex : 4/22/2014 10:20 pm : link
Ottawa, under that standard he should get 10 games.
what a POS  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:20 pm : link
Its amazing how dirty this scumbag team is.
Suspension coming ...  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:20 pm : link
that's dangerous and avoidable even if it is Carcillo.
and Carcillo got a penalty for face washing Giroux  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 10:22 pm : link
But this bullshit? Nope, no penalty there!
So that doesn't deserve a penalty  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:23 pm : link
but Zucc and Dorsett dove in game 2. Now Carcillo called??? Fuck these refs.
Refs with another atrocious call  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 10:23 pm : link
How are these guys employed as refs?
WTF are they calling?  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:23 pm : link
There's no fucking hook there at all.

This is unreal  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
.
I suppose that  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
too is a clear penatly on Carcillo?! What a fucking joke!
Wow  
Deej : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
just wow.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
Shameful
These referees  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
should be fired. Carcillo lifts the stick perfectly they call him for a penalty, but he gets cheap shot in the head and no call.
Wtf?  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
Does Bettman have money on Philly?
You have to be fucking kidding me  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
how was that a penalty?
that is as bad a call as you are going to find  
Essex : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
. . .
RE: WTF are they calling?  
yatqb : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
In comment 11633620 Wuphat said:
Quote:
There's no fucking hook there at all.


Unfucking real!
Seriously??!!  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:24 pm : link
These refs are trying to give Philly the game. Its unreal. These guys are fucking trash. They should be suspended as well.
I want another goal  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:25 pm : link
Then I want Carrillo to go full retard on these twats
Justice!  
baadbill : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
.
Carcillo with a giant FU to Philly  
NYerInMA : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
I love it!
FUCK YEAH  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
CARCILLO!!!!!!!!!!
Great kill  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
And Carcillo nets one!

Fuck you Philly!

Fuck you refs!
REDEMPTION!  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!
that is awesome!!!!  
Essex : 4/22/2014 10:26 pm : link
. . . karma!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
yatqb : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
FUCK THEM!!!!!
Atta Boy  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
Danny!!! Rub it right in their faces!
Hahahaha  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
Carcillo gives them the big fuccccccck you. Love it. Karma assholes.
Poetic justice!!  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
Take that you filthy fucks!!!
Awesome!!!!!!  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
Bahahahahaha!
Awesome!!  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
and Carcillo mouthing off to the Philly sewer trash after the goal!!
Yeah, fuck it refs, fuck if Phily  
Mad Mike : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
*
I'm not a huge hockey fan..  
Sean in PA : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
but that was fucking satisfying to watch!!

LGR
CARCILLO  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
The best "fuck you" there is!
FUCK YOU PHILTHY AND FUCK YOU REFS!!!  
nygiants16 : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
lets fucking go
Haha, Carcillo against his old team  
dpinzow : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
that's gotta burn
Love Carcillo  
Deej : 4/22/2014 10:27 pm : link
telling that Flyers fan to f himself.
The goonery  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:28 pm : link
will go up another notch now if you can believe it.
Puck don't lie  
Deej : 4/22/2014 10:29 pm : link
.
that was so very, very sweet  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 10:29 pm : link
.
Can they get any more chippy than they've already been this game?  
yatqb : 4/22/2014 10:31 pm : link
WTF am I talking about? Of course they can...fuckin' Flyers. Wish we had McIlrath to throw on the ice at the end of the game.
Dont lower ourselves to their level  
MetsAreBack : 4/22/2014 10:31 pm : link
finish this and get out of here up 2-1

Unfortunately, i do think this is the last we see of Mr. Emery this series.
Its about that time  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:32 pm : link
When Simmonds hits someone with a cheapshot.
Wish we had John Scott back for one night  
Greg from LI : 4/22/2014 10:33 pm : link
Mason is better than Emery but he's no prize either
and here come the thugs  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:36 pm : link
right on cue
And still no penalty box for Simmonds  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:36 pm : link
Fucking unreal
I think Simmonds has replaced Hartnell  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:36 pm : link
as my most hated Flyer
My god Simmonds is such a bitch  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 10:36 pm : link
and fuck Lecavalier too
Looks like  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:37 pm : link
a power play coming. Simmonds in the box.
Simmonds is allowed  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:39 pm : link
in the box after all and he is cunt # 1 on a roster full of 'em.
Really stupid to have the real  
bigbluehoya : 4/22/2014 10:39 pm : link
PP unit out there
no they havent  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:40 pm : link
the officials were awful.
Gee - the next game isn't until  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 10:40 pm : link
Friday?

Win this fucking series and send these  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:41 pm : link
Cheap shotting fucks home early



Berube is an ugly cunt and his team takes after him
I see Tampa got swept  
mamamia : 4/22/2014 10:42 pm : link
and Callahan netted ZERO points. The seven million dollar man did register a few hits
Go fuck yourself  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:43 pm : link
Philly.
Fuck You  
nygmen84 : 4/22/2014 10:43 pm : link
Philly
I'm shocked  
Wuphat : 4/22/2014 10:43 pm : link
none of the Flyers took a run at anyone at the horn.
Very good road effort.  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:43 pm : link
Need to be more disciplined on Friday, though.
Awesome win boys!!  
mfsd : 4/22/2014 10:43 pm : link
Rangers withstood Philly's second period pressure, then we played a great 3rd
Beating philly  
redbeard : 4/22/2014 10:44 pm : link
Never gets old, does it?
Home ice  
Headhunter : 4/22/2014 10:44 pm : link
regained. I can't see the Flyers winning 3 out 4 but what do I know
The PK was amazing tonight.  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:44 pm : link
Blocked shot after blocked shot.
Good road effort  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 10:50 pm : link
with some undisciplined play at times but we have the perfect road game on our docket come Friday. A 2 zip blanking of Philthy with a chance to clinch on Sunday.
It was  
Servo : 4/22/2014 10:51 pm : link
a tough break for Tampa to lose Bishop for the playoffs.

The scheduling is so weird. That series was over before the Rangers had Game 3 in the books.
If there could have possibly have been a way  
Phil in LA : 4/22/2014 10:51 pm : link
for the Eagles to lose tonight, all three of my most deplored would have gone down!
Fuck philly  
djm : 4/22/2014 10:51 pm : link
Carcillo with one of the best fuck u goals ever.

Love winning game 3s. Needed this one tonight.
Simmons will likely take somebody on the Rangers out  
Giants2012 : 4/22/2014 10:57 pm : link
By the end of this series. You can see it coming. He's getting Dave Brown/Donald Brasher dirty.

And Carcillo  
RodneyHamp : 4/22/2014 10:57 pm : link
Gets the broadway hat
Carcillo was hated when he came here  
Headhunter : 4/22/2014 11:00 pm : link
worked his ass off shut up and won over a fan base that despised him
Took me a long time to warm up to Carcillo  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:08 pm : link
But after getting lubeless assfucked two shifts in a row and coming down to get the fuck you goal?



Redemption..
.  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:12 pm : link




@KatieStrangESPN 2m
#NYR #PHI Carcillo on fans booing him while injured: "Nothing surprises me about this city and the way people act."



Keep the team going AV but Fast over Carcillo made no sense ever.
someone read those lips  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:14 pm : link
What's he saying to those refs?
The Fast thing  
Stufftherun : 4/22/2014 11:14 pm : link
is such a head scratcher ...made no sense.
god  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:21 pm : link
damn that win feels good.

I was terrified that one Pouliot penalty could effectively ruin the season. Now I hope that Carcillo goal propels the team further.

I didnt read this thread at all but Micheletti said the "refs did a commendable job". He said that voluntarily. Insanity.
"that'sa bullshit call.."  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:24 pm : link
Is all I can get..

And yeah, Michelletti needs to stfu. Like arc..

I think he clearly says  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:26 pm : link
"Nice fucking call you motherfucker*@*(#)*(@()!*)!"
.  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:27 pm : link
"....YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER@!"
Yup  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:29 pm : link
That is "NICE FUCKING CALL YOU MOTHERFUCKER.. #*#&#^@&@&$*#(!!!"

YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER!!  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:30 pm : link
...

Like I said.  
arcarsenal : 4/22/2014 11:34 pm : link
Fast needed to sit. Not a bad dude, bright future. Carbomb showed Philly what's up.

Huge win you fucking cocksuckers. Good work, Brettsky. Get us one more. Let's fuckin go.
Didn't seem to see any love  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:44 pm : link
for Whipping Boyle. So I will give some....

Great game for the guy all around even if he has stonehands around the net. That pass to Carcillo was seriously impressive.
Micheletti  
MookGiants : 4/22/2014 11:45 pm : link
fucking sucks. Maloney needs to be on the TV and throw Micheletti on the radio where I will only have to put up with him once in a blue moon
Seth  
Davisian : 4/22/2014 11:49 pm : link
Boyle is just so tough to support and/or hayte..

On the bad side, he doesn't use his massive size to inflict nearly enough punishment when he has the chance to, and he can't finish for shit..

On the good, he works his ass off, his positioning and faceoffs are toit and he blocks shots with no fear.


RE: Seth  
SethFromAstoria : 4/22/2014 11:59 pm : link
In comment 11633772 Davisian said:
Quote:
Boyle is just so tough to support and/or hayte..

On the bad side, he doesn't use his massive size to inflict nearly enough punishment when he has the chance to, and he can't finish for shit..

On the good, he works his ass off, his positioning and faceoffs are toit and he blocks shots with no fear.



yeah pretty much.

But he played well today.
Yup  
Davisian : 4/23/2014 12:05 am : link
Thought Him, the Moores, MSL, Stepan, Brassard and Girardi had strong games.

Poolio, Klein and Nash much less so.

The rest in between.

Still at half mast after that win  
Davisian : 4/23/2014 12:26 am : link
Get there, fish.

RE: Yup  
Anakim : 4/23/2014 1:28 am : link
In comment 11633785 Davisian said:
Quote:
Thought Him, the Moores, MSL, Stepan, Brassard and Girardi had strong games.

Poolio, Klein and Nash much less so.

The rest in between.


What was wrong with Klein? Except for one missed clear out, he was invisible, which is good for a defenseman.
McDonagh has been...  
brunswick : 4/23/2014 1:51 am : link
Very shaky in this series...a couple of brutal turnovers tonite...not the same player we saw in the regular season.
Boyle does a lot of things right..  
arcarsenal : 4/23/2014 2:15 am : link
He just is the absolute worst finisher on the team.. dude always seems to find himself with a golden chance 1-on-1 with the goalie and just can't get one through. And as has already been discussed extensively, he just doesn't use his size the way he should.

That said... the pass to Carbomb for the nail in the fuckin coffin goal was outstanding and he didn't have a bad game overall. Was only in the circle 4 times but won just 1 of them (Richie did a great job in there tonight) .. he is what he is. I just see a dude who could be a really valuable player but instead is a decent guy who can be replaced.

Anyway.. fuck it. Huge fuckin win. Nasher notched two A's and has been alright but a guy making the coin he is with the profile he has really needs to impose his will a little more. I can't stand when he gets into the zone near the boards and just fires a lazy shot on net. Muscle in there and make the goalie work a little bit. He shows flashes of being a true PF now and then but just disappears for stretches otherwise.

RMcD doesn't seem 100% himself yet but hopefully that comes because we'll need it. Hank did what he needed to. Let's fuckin take Game 4 and put them on the ropes. Really cannot afford to go all 7 here.
I have just barely started dipping my toe  
bigbluehoya : 4/23/2014 6:34 am : link
Into the world of advanced stats.

Last night the Rangers got pounded on Corsi overall. MSL / Nash / Steps were the best by far. To be fair, their relative starting percentage in the offensive zone vs the defensive zone was over 70%.

According to Extra Skater, the Boyle line played about 12 minutes (seemed like more to me) and started 0% in the offensive zone.

Nothing really astounding good or bad that I see, but I've been finding it interesting to look at the stats relative to my perception while the game was happening.

Obviously an awesome win, but they need to control the game and get more pucks on net.

Extraskater.com seems like an awesome site. Any others that you guys like?
RE: Like I said.  
BrettNYG10 : 4/23/2014 7:28 am : link
In comment 11633758 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
Fast needed to sit. Not a bad dude, bright future. Carbomb showed Philly what's up.

Huge win you fucking cocksuckers. Good work, Brettsky. Get us one more. Let's fuckin go.


Thanks, brother. I did my part by falling asleep in the second...

I watched the rest of the game this morning without knowing the score.

We're 33-0 when I fall asleep.
What a shame Dylan McIIrath is a poor skater  
Giants2012 : 4/23/2014 7:42 am : link
Could send him right after Simmons.
It has to be disheartening for Philly  
Essex : 4/23/2014 8:51 am : link
to control most of the action and still get blown out. I guess the nervous, pessimist in me is reminded of game 3 against the Devils in 2012, a game Hank stole for us. But, I guess if we win that decisively when we play just an average game, it is a good sign. Our PK and Hank were amazing, though. And, of course, that always helps
So far this series,  
kmed : 4/23/2014 8:51 am : link
Nash is a JAG. Totally unimpressive, he's not skating hard or fast at all. This is playoff hockey, you have to skate hard at all times and he's just...there. Step it up Nash, we need ya.
Our defense is just unreal so far this series.  
kmed : 4/23/2014 8:54 am : link
McD has been awesome, I'm confused that someone is claiming he's been "shaky". He makes so many amazing defensive plays, it's impressive. Philly is going to continue to good this series up and we are going to continue to win the games. There is no coorelation and it's more proof that you don't need to match goonness.
McD also coughed up the puck repeatedly in game one  
Greg from LI : 4/23/2014 9:17 am : link
And let Voracek blow by him for the first goal in game two. He's had both good moments and bad moments.

It's a good thing I skipped that game last night  
MetsAreBack : 4/23/2014 9:18 am : link
I was too "worn out" to watch these losers. Told you we'd never win another game, geniuses!

-Paul
I get that Nash is a "Bottom Line" guy  
NVA_Blue : 4/23/2014 9:22 am : link
but am I missing something here? He had 2 assists last night, and still leads the team in shots on goal for the series, AND he is a huge reason why Philly's top line isnt getting many looks on net via his defense and PKing.

The goals will come....
RE: Our defense is just unreal so far this series.  
arcarsenal : 4/23/2014 9:42 am : link
In comment 11633935 kmed said:
Quote:
McD has been awesome, I'm confused that someone is claiming he's been "shaky". He makes so many amazing defensive plays, it's impressive. Philly is going to continue to good this series up and we are going to continue to win the games. There is no coorelation and it's more proof that you don't need to match goonness.


I'd say he's been good.. not awesome. He's made a few more mistakes than usual. Not playing terribly or anything just seems like he's been knocking off a little rust even though he only missed a couple weeks. When he's really on his game, you'd be hard pressed to find a better NHL defenseman at this point.
Yes,  
kmed : 4/23/2014 10:14 am : link
he's made a few mistakes, but when you play 25 minutes a game against the oppositions best players every night, I guess it'll happen. He's been pretty awesome, IMO when you look at his whole body of work, despite a few mistakes. The guy skates his ass off, he's showing offensive ability to carry the puck deep, he's a defensive workhorse and he blocks a lot of shots. To say he's been "shaky" is a gross exaggerration about a guy that's probably been our most important player so far this series.

Also, regarding Nash, he's been JAG. He hasn't hurt us because we are so deep, but he's just not skating hard and playing full out. Maybe he's playing tentative, but when I watch him, he's skating slower than almost everyone else. Richards is significantly outplaying him. We are going to need Nash at some point, hopefully he steps his game up.

Last point....good job by Hank, he was great again. The 1 goal was a goal that no goalie was going to save, but he was on his game last night for sure.
I thought McD looked mostly like himself last night  
mfsd : 4/23/2014 10:17 am : link
for the first time in the series, but still not back to going all Brian Leetch-style like he was down the stretch before that fuckhead banged him up

anyone else struggling to hide their 'morning after we smoked Philly' boner while at work today?

Had a meeting earlier with our office's resident Flyers fan - gave him my best Carcillo 'go fuck yourself' look when I saw him

hehe
Disagree about Nash  
Kyle in NY : 4/23/2014 10:18 am : link
I know he's a bottom line guy and he hasn't scored. But I think he's been good, not spectacular. Creating offense, that line as a whole has been very good. And he was much better than Richards last night if you're comparing the two.

Eye of the beholder I guess...
RE: I get that Nash is a  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 10:22 am : link
In comment 11633980 NVA_Blue said:
Quote:
but am I missing something here? He had 2 assists last night, and still leads the team in shots on goal for the series, AND he is a huge reason why Philly's top line isnt getting many looks on net via his defense and PKing.

The goals will come....


I thought Nash played a really good game, especially early. And his play lead directly to the game winner, and the first goal for that matter.
RE: Disagree about Nash  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 10:23 am : link
In comment 11634117 Kyle in NY said:
Quote:
I know he's a bottom line guy and he hasn't scored. But I think he's been good, not spectacular. Creating offense, that line as a whole has been very good. And he was much better than Richards last night if you're comparing the two.

Eye of the beholder I guess...


Also thought Richards was very good last night.
-  
jv : 4/23/2014 10:26 am : link
McDonagh has been playing ok by his standards. If you watched McDonagh all season and compared that with how he's playing now there's a noticeable difference. He's made some poor decisions with the puck in this series. He just doesn't look as comfortable with the puck as he did before the injury when he was in peak form. Those are mistakes he didn't make all season. He's shutdown top lines all year long so that's nothing new. The guy owns players like Ovechkin.

What you're observing with Nash in this series is really how he's played his entire Rangers career. The one exception being that game in Columbus earlier this year where he played out of his mind. He's solid out there but always seems like he could shift into another gear. That Columbus game showed that gear exists and it would go a long way in these playoffs if he could find it again.
Carcillo gif - lol  
Drewcon40 : 4/23/2014 10:26 am : link
Are sure he isn't saying "Give me the fucking keys, you cocksucker"!
raise your hand if you are shocked  
RodneyHamp : 4/23/2014 10:27 am : link
Quote:
Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 3m

So far this morning, no indication Matt Read will face any supplemental league discipline for hit on Dan Carcillo. Again, so far this a.m...


also, Richards needs to stop the no-look passes to nobody.
yup, still hard..  
Davisian : 4/23/2014 10:29 am : link
Don't act like you're not impressed...
Nash  
MookGiants : 4/23/2014 10:29 am : link
has been better than JAG this series. He's had good scoring opportunities, skating pretty well, taking a lot of shots. He'll bury one soon. There have been playoff series where he's been JAG and even worse, not taking shots, not skating, not making smart passes. He's been involved so far, I'd like him to be better but he's played pretty well
It isn't a zero sum game  
bigbluehoya : 4/23/2014 10:29 am : link
Both played well.

Not sure what about 2 assists is so uninspiring. Seems that in general, people will continually feel the need to criticize one of Nash or MSL, depending on which one is getting the A's and not G's.

Bottom line is that the statistics show that when these guys are on the ice, the rangers are getting more shots (Corsi/Fenwick). The scoring certainly matters, but when the rangers have a lead, it's nearly as important that the other team is NOT scoring/generating chances. And they haven't done much of it with the Nash/Steps/MSL line on the ice.
That game felt like the outdoor game vs the Flyers  
kmed : 4/23/2014 10:30 am : link
a few years ago where every single call was against us. The Rangers penalty kill was so freaking good and won us that game, IMO. Boyle, McD, Girardi, Henrik....those guys stood out to me on the PK.
Counting assists  
kmed : 4/23/2014 10:32 am : link
in hockey is dumb as not all assists are created equal. Again for the slow...Nash hasn't played bad, but he's certainly capable of a LOT better and that's the problem. He's just one of the guys out there, he doesn't stand out at all despite being the most talented guy on our team. That's the problem. He's certainly not hurting us, but he's not playing anywhere close to how he can and should. He's not skating all that hard either, there's another gear in there.
Richards has played well overall in the series  
Greg from LI : 4/23/2014 10:33 am : link
But I still have no idea what he was trying to do when he flipped the puck into McDonagh after he had fallen on the ice, leading directly to the Flyers goal. That was just strange.
IMO,  
kmed : 4/23/2014 10:33 am : link
with such a physical team like Philly and the way this series is being played, he's a little gun shy because of his injury history.
Boyle  
MookGiants : 4/23/2014 10:35 am : link
was great on the PK. He's really had a nice series, if only he could finish. That part is frustrating but he's doing everything else so far.

Nash has 18 shots in 3 games, 5 last night, 6 in game 2, 7 in game 1. He'll get one soon. 4 assists in 3 games. He had a rocket off of a set play off of a faceoff last night that I have no idea how Emery saw it and stopped it, it happened so fast off of the faceoff. Nash also blocked 3 shots last night according to the box score
RE: raise your hand if you are shocked  
yatqb : 4/23/2014 10:55 am : link
In comment 11634159 RodneyHamp said:
Quote:


Quote:


Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 3m

So far this morning, no indication Matt Read will face any supplemental league discipline for hit on Dan Carcillo. Again, so far this a.m...



also, Richards needs to stop the no-look passes to nobody.


Really disappointing. If that's not the type of hit they want to eliminate from the game I don't know what is. And you don't want the Flyers to feel even more comfortable about playing dirty and taking pot shots than they already do.
Sorry Kmed  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 11:04 am : link
but counting assists is dumb? Secondary assist or not, they affected a play that lead to a goal. Not sure if some of the all time greats would agree that assists are not valid to look at.

Point being, if the Rangers win a 7 game series by winning 4 games, and Rick Nash has a point per game or more in that series, you can't say the guy isn't doing anything. Agree that he can put it into a higher gear. But he was very good in the first especially last night.
You're confusing my point.  
kmed : 4/23/2014 11:10 am : link
Not all assists are created equal. Just because someone touched the puck and then the next guy made a nice pass for a goal, doesn't mean it's some great achievement. Nash hasn't been bad, but he hasn't been nearly as good as he can be. He's not hurting the Rangers, but he's not helping as much as he should.
I'm leaning towards kmed's (fuckin know it all) side on Nash  
Davisian : 4/23/2014 11:32 am : link
Besides his idiocy in dismissing assists, Nash has not been the bull in china shop, imposing his will on the game kind of player we know he can be.

Its a small sample size and its not like he's playing poorly by any stretch, but we've all seen that he can do much more.

RE: Boyle  
nygmen84 : 4/23/2014 11:36 am : link
In comment 11634187 MookGiants said:
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was great on the PK. He's really had a nice series, if only he could finish. That part is frustrating but he's doing everything else so far.

Nash has 18 shots in 3 games, 5 last night, 6 in game 2, 7 in game 1. He'll get one soon. 4 assists in 3 games. He had a rocket off of a set play off of a faceoff last night that I have no idea how Emery saw it and stopped it, it happened so fast off of the faceoff. Nash also blocked 3 shots last night according to the box score

I agree that Nash as played well this series thus far but those shot numbers are highly misleading and a good % of them were essentially stat padders aka long, weak passes right to the goalie instead of just dumping it into the zone. He had 3 or 4 of them last night.
I'm not dismissing assits, that clearly(maybe not so clearly)  
kmed : 4/23/2014 11:36 am : link
wasn't my point. My point was, just because someone had 2 assists, doesn't mean he had a great game.
I'd agree  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 11:47 am : link
Wholeheartedly that Nash can step it up more. I mean the fact is that he's a sniper with tons of shots and no goals and is getting outscored by Carcillo. He needs to bull his way to the net way more. It causes chaos every time he does.
Nash is playing ok...  
Torrag : 4/23/2014 11:50 am : link
he's been smart defensively and made the right reads leading to scoring for his line. His personal offensive game hasn't come yet. here's hoping it will soon.

Mac has been off his game. He's been good by most players standards but not near the level he established this season. He's taken bad angles, made bad coverage reads and turned the puck over leading to Flyers scoring chances in all three games thus far. I expect him to clean it up starting Friday. He'll get an extra practice in with the delay til Friday to get his head on right.
You're falling into the same trap in evaluating Nash as so many  
BurberryManning : 4/23/2014 11:56 am : link
often do when evaluating Boyle; he does not play the sort of game that traditionally corresponds to his body type but it doesn't mean that he's not effective. Nash is not really a power forward, no more than Boyle is an intimidating physical presence. Nash's game is predicated on exceptional puck skills and deceptive speed. So while you may think that he's coasting, his 6'4 frame is actually moving quite fast and he reserves an extra gear for those certain moments when he needs to accelerate away from defenders. Was yesterday Nash's best game? No. Was it among his worst? No. Was he effective? Yes.

I'd love to see him carry over his performance in Columbus for 82 games and the playoffs but that sort of playing style would most likely prohibit him from even being able to play 82 games from a health perspective. What might be more alarming is that Nash's goal scoring pace this season was actually more aligned with his averages over the past four or five seasons and less with his output last year and his former 40+ goal years.
looks like Giroux guaranteed a Philly victory  
B in ALB : 4/23/2014 12:23 pm : link
In game 4.
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Sounds like the Flyers are confused  
BurberryManning : 4/23/2014 12:37 pm : link
Crosby-lite is not producing and the Flyers cant identify exactly what the Rangers are doing to stymie them. Perhaps having a Captain that could recognize that starting out in a 0-2 hole doesnt qualify as a good start would be progress. The troubling aspect is that the Flyers are only one game behind when we should've had them all but buried by now.

In other news, since Game 1 the Wings have given the Bruins absolutely less than they cant handle.
It's amazing we can win a few games  
kmed : 4/23/2014 12:54 pm : link
without a fighter on the team or someone gooning it up with Philly. Keep letting Philly try and goon it up, that doesn't put goals in the net. I'm sure they won't benefit from every single call like last night either. The Rangers should have had a man advantage a bunch of times last night as opposed to 5 PPs for Philly and 4 for the Rangers. Just keep playing our game.
still bummed we took our foot off the gas at 2-0  
mfsd : 4/23/2014 1:06 pm : link
and let them steal game 2

but I expect us to come back to NY up 3-1. Because fuck them, that's why
Agreed,  
kmed : 4/23/2014 1:07 pm : link
but at the same time, maybe that game taught us a lesson and led us to win last night after Philly scored their first goal.
and there it is  
RodneyHamp : 4/23/2014 1:57 pm : link
no discipline for Read
No discipline  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 2:02 pm : link
For doing exactly what they say they want gone from the game. All because Carcillo wasn't seriously injured. Clowns in that league office. I would do the same exact thing to them now.
That's why you aren't on the Rangers!  
kmed : 4/23/2014 2:03 pm : link
Score more goals, let the Flyers do crap like that. The game is won by scoring goals, not inflicting pain on the other team. Play your game!
Very frustrating though  
kmed : 4/23/2014 2:07 pm : link
how there's no consistency to how the judge those sort of things. They are all over the map with these suspensions. The 3 games to Seabrook was a freaking joke. He should have been out 5 at a minimum. That hit was filthy.

See I agree we should  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 2:10 pm : link
let them play that game early on but after we took a 2 goal lead, I thought we should have played an even more aggressive game because it becomes their job to overcome our intensity when they are behind by a couple.
Dorsett and Carcillo dont qualify, Kmed?  
BurberryManning : 4/23/2014 2:12 pm : link
The Rangers didnt seem to bring a high enough level of intensity to Game 2 so AV inserts Carcillo and he clearly provided the team with a spark. He didn't need to fight but he more than got himself involved physically
the reverse view of that picture of Carcillo at the glass  
Greg from LI : 4/23/2014 2:13 pm : link
is even better

Daydreaming  
bigbluehoya : 4/23/2014 2:18 pm : link
Richards seems to really like playing on this team / in this city, even if he's been underwhelming. Is there ANY circumstance under which you could see him accepting a significant paycut to stick around instead of getting amnestied?
RE: Daydreaming  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 2:23 pm : link
In comment 11634685 bigbluehoya said:
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Richards seems to really like playing on this team / in this city, even if he's been underwhelming. Is there ANY circumstance under which you could see him accepting a significant paycut to stick around instead of getting amnestied?


Doesn't work that way. He's done well this season. If we get to the FInals or farther, fuck it resign him. But if not he's not able to live up to the $ for so many years. Especially as we watch Stastny rack up points in these playoffs.
Well, actually, its counter-intuitive...  
MetsAreBack : 4/23/2014 3:59 pm : link
but if we make the SCF there's even less reason to keep him. That's a lot of playoff games tread on his tires and it will carry over to his production next season(and his teammates as well). Next year maybe being his last year in 'prime' years too.

You have to make a business decision on Richards regardless. There's no 'fuck it' about it when it comes to a billion dollar business.

Anyway.... I will never, ever, ever for the life of me understand the NHL's "wheel of justice" and the philosophy that 'well... this guy shouldnt get suspended because the other guy didnt get hurt' Your penalizing the fucking intent, not the outcome.
I thought the Rangers weren't winning another game?  
Andy in Halifax : 4/23/2014 4:08 pm : link
What a putz.
RE: No discipline  
baadbill : 4/23/2014 7:47 pm : link
In comment 11634654 SethFromAstoria said:
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For doing exactly what they say they want gone from the game. All because Carcillo wasn't seriously injured. Clowns in that league office. I would do the same exact thing to them now.


Is there any way to know whether or not the league office even reviewed the play? It was typical Philly crap. The thing that I worried (maybe worry?) about is whether Carcillo was concussed - frankly I'm not sure it's possible not to be concussed by that shoulder to the jaw and seeing him basically "out" on the ice for a minute or so. I just hope he's truly ok.
RE: RE: No discipline  
SethFromAstoria : 4/23/2014 8:03 pm : link
In comment 11635256 baadbill said:
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In comment 11634654 SethFromAstoria said:


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For doing exactly what they say they want gone from the game. All because Carcillo wasn't seriously injured. Clowns in that league office. I would do the same exact thing to them now.



Is there any way to know whether or not the league office even reviewed the play? It was typical Philly crap. The thing that I worried (maybe worry?) about is whether Carcillo was concussed - frankly I'm not sure it's possible not to be concussed by that shoulder to the jaw and seeing him basically "out" on the ice for a minute or so. I just hope he's truly ok.


I assume they did since the Commissioner was at the game and the Rangers watched it happen in front of their bench.

And it's actually comical if you think about punishing results and not intent. Its weird to think that a whole committee of people agreed upon that method. Scary.
there's just no narrative that supports that hit being unpunished  
Davisian : 4/23/2014 8:56 pm : link
Its exactly what they want out of the game.

Carcillo's previous scumbaggery and lack of further injury is the only thing going for that fuck and that's bullshit.


The sad thing is you know if the roles  
jv : 4/24/2014 7:41 am : link
were reversed and Carcillo hit Read in the jaw there would be a suspension.
Actually I'd say  
hudson : 4/24/2014 10:27 am : link
The Rangers defensive play as a whole has been their weakness. The Flyers have gotten a lot of consistent scoring chances, the Rangers offense has been awesome but the defensive game has been a little too open for me.
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