I know we all have our favorites for the #12 pick, whether it's Donald, Lewan, Evans or Ebron. Before draft day rolls around there will be 100's of threads on all of these players and many more.Personally I like Ebron, sure he has weaknesses but his strengths can be a huge weapon for our offense. And those strengths far out weigh the weaknesses. Let's be honest a case can be made for or against any of these players but to me we need impact players on offense and Ebron can be that.
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I have no problem differing from "scouts" and "experts." None of us are always right. If the draft was a science any schlub could do it
We aren't taking Ebron.
I really don't see any other option at this point. We simply aren't winning with a sub-par o-line. It's as clear as day.
If they were any good why are they not employed by NFL teams?
Haha, ohh please. You think these guys only report what they see? Its a business, the networks are a business. These guys are paid to talk up every player with a 1st round grade. Their opinion means absolutely nothing to me, and probably even less to Reese.
Sure, some of these guys were former players and scouts, but you still need to take their opinions with a huge grain of salt.
Ebron has a chance to be a very good tight end, is he Grahme, no, not at all, nor is he Vernon Davis, but he has the tools needed to become a good tight end, does that mean you grab him at 12, no, not at all.
We aren't armchair experts. We are going off of Reese's history. He didn't pick Fleener at 32....32! He passed on both guys last year at 19. What makes you think Ebron is at the top of our list at 12, a premium pick?
None of us are saying Ebron sucks. We are saying his likely impact doesn't translate to 12 overall, especially when we won't be able to protect Eli properly if we do take him.
If that makes me an armchair expert, than so be it.
personally I don't see a top 12 pick ...more like 20-25 imo. He's got inconsistent hands and needs a lot of development as a blocker. Self confidence is good but there are murmurs he takes it too far. We'll know what the Giants think in a couple weeks. The draft can't get here soon enough.
But mocks don't take history of a team into an account. I've never read "Jerry Reese historically doesn't take TE's high" which is not only a true statement, but one any of these "experts" should know. They should all know we passed on guys rated just as high yet they don't. Hard for me to take any of them seriously.
Even if he is, he's a second round talent similar to Fleener.
It would be a shame if the Giants were so desperate for a TE they took him with the #12 pick.
Even if he is, he's a second round talent similar to Fleener.
It would be a shame if the Giants were so desperate for a TE they took him with the #12 pick.
He's a lot better than Fleener. I heavily studied Fleener that year and honestly favored Dwayne Allen and thought he'd be the better value for us in round 2.
At first watching Ebron I wasn't sold, I had some initial doubts on his blocking and overall toughness. I went back and watched some of his clips again, including the Miami game this time, and I would love to have him on the team. I don't know if 12 is the spot (BPA) I'm willing to do it at (trade back to mid teens), but I can see why others are excited at the prospect of having a dynamic TE who has Pro-Bowl potential.
Use the pick wisely and get a starting Offensive Guard.
It depends on the formations we use but I think EE would be productive for us.
Most scouting reports describe him as "freakishly athletic" hi is listed at 6'4" 250lbs with room to grow. Not sure what scouting report you read or where/how you formed your opinion but it is contrary to every report that is out there.
250 lbs
4.6 40
Junion Year - 62 catches, 973 yards, 3 TDs
Travis Beckum
6' 3"
243 lbs
4.6 40
Junior Year - 75 catches, 982 yards, 6 TDs
...Just sayin'
Use the pick wisely and get a starting Offensive Guard.
The chances of a guard being taken at 12 is less than 0.The hope is that we can move up in the 2nd and take Yankey .I don't think he will be there if we stay put with our 2nd rounder.
Just another way to look at it.
Please see the links I provided.No disrespect to you or Mr.SB but to say that Ebron and Beckum are the same player ...that's just inaccurate.
MR.SB42?
On the other hand, the great thing about being skeptical about a prospect is... exactly the same thing. Any given prospect is more likely to disappoint than become a Pro Bowler or HOFer -- and for early first-round draft picks, anything short of that is, by definition, a disappointment.
So it's easy to rag on Ebron or Lewan or Donald or anybody else, and odds are, you'll be right. Lewan is more likely to be the next Robert Gallery than the next Jumbo Elliott. I enjoy playing that game, too; it's fun. But the Giants are gonna have to pick somebody. We fans need to hope that they find more guys who overdeliver their draft position, guys like Rich Seubert and Victor Cruz and Ahmad Bradshaw and yes, even David Diehl in his prime.
Bottom line is ..if the Giants take him or anyone else when kickoff 2014 gets here we will ALL be huge fans of whoever it is. Once it's done it's done they're one of us and we will cheer them on.
Kellen Winslow SR of course