NGT: Happy Valley to build new statue honoring Joe Paterno

are a sad bunch

They have some of the greatest fly fishing in the world right around the corner!

and without much common sense, imv

none of this happens without the hero-worship of Joe Paterno, but for too many people in that fanbase they cannot accept the contributions of Paterno's own failings to what went on, or the ways in which the same tendency driving this - hero worship, and the drumbeat of donor dollars it was tied to - drove the cover-up and facilitated the abuse.

Insulting in which direction towards the community for getting the statue or the university for not being ready?

I have no feelings either way, just cfurious.

phat phingers and no proof reading

with ned and BB56.

It's a shame that at the end of the day football won out over basic human decency. Sadly, the clapping seals will celebrate.

Simply pathetic.

be re-informed. Stop believing everything BSPN crams down your throat. I supposed it's easier to do that sifting through all the bullshit.

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interested in finding the truth is going to take the time to listen to all the professional investigative viewpoints of neutral parties to get to the actual truth about Paterno's involvement in the Sandusky scandal. You've been spoon feed the NCAA version and it's good enough for you. So all the people in State College, and all people associated with Penn State University, should curl up and go away quietly.

nittany lions fan?

In comment 11635725 LS said:

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interested in finding the truth is going to take the time to listen to all the professional investigative viewpoints of neutral parties to get to the actual truth about Paterno's involvement in the Sandusky scandal. You've been spoon feed the NCAA version and it's good enough for you. So all the people in State College, and all people associated with Penn State University, should curl up and go away quietly.

It's a cult, a delusional cult. The fact that the fond memory of a football coach takes precedence over the sexual abuse of children is beyond shameful.

What year did you graduate from PSU?

Just curious

The group Penn State hired that would shame and embarrass the University and its employees? Because I know, that if I hired a company to do an investigation of that nature, I'd hire a group who would come to the conclusion I was hoping for. I do not believe Penn State would hire a group that would come up with such a damaging report.

Then there is the independent investigation, that was funded by the Paterno family? Do you really think that was Neutral?

Joe Paterno said he heard of the allegations from McQuery and sometime the next week called the AD to report it...Fine...However, Sandusky roamed the campus for like a decade after that...Don't you think that someone of his stature should have raised that issue to someone else? As opposed to ignoring the next 10 years? I know I would have done everything in my power to have the man removed from my campus and brought to Justice.

There might be some things I'd let slide but Pedophilia? I'm making sure you get hanged for that one.

That is the crux of the issue, Joe was indifferent and did not use his "celebrity" to ensure Sandusky paid for his crime

Don't paint all Penn State fans and grads with the same brush. I haven't respected Joe Paterno for a decade and a half before the rest of you mongos joined the party.

As a student there I learned very quickly that in Joe's eyes, everything took a back seat to football. Including the legal and moral behavior of his players. I was not surprised to learn that applied to his coaches too.

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The coach they rallied behind is now in Houston after a very short layover in Happy Valley, so they needed to turn to an old familiar source of worship.

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In comment 11635747 Hades07 said:

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Don't paint all Penn State fans and grads with the same brush. I haven't respected Joe Paterno for a decade and a half before the rest of you mongos joined the party. As a student there I learned very quickly that in Joe's eyes, everything took a back seat to football. Including the legal and moral behavior of his players. I was not surprised to learn that applied to his coaches too.

Absolutely, and I have friends who are quite capable of making that distinction. Some in that fanbase, sadly, are not.

The new statue with his eyes closed? Or with his head up his ass?

No statue. But I've no say in that.

What I did and still do object to was taking away the wins from the team, who as far as I know, weren't involved. They were kids who just went out and played and got screwed because of what their coaches did. IMO.

I'm not sure how people are still proud to alumni and support that program. They are obviously sick and delusional.

Bunchin, no?

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Read the posts from LS. Nope.

Child rape is ok as long as your head coach reported it once then went on with his life as if nothing was wrong. I know with such oversight I could sleep well every night.

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new president making the announcement at the press conference.

That he was a kind man? That he was a wise man? That he had plans, man? That he had wisdom? Bullshit, man..

that "if" is the middle word in life?

an electrified fence around that statue because it will be vandalized within a week.

Maybe they can get Bryan Singer to host the unveiling.

Would be unfortunate for the current players but it would have been something to start killing the PSU football above human rights mentality there.

He also did many, many, good things and helped a lot of people. Do those all go away? He is a big part of the town and PSU history. Statues commemorate history, they do not judge history. Should Stone Mountain in Georgia be destroyed because it commemorates the Confederacy? Should the washington and Jefferson Memorials be destroyed because they each owned slaves? I think they had children with slaves - that would make them rapists. Should Jerry World be torn down because he picked his nose and overpaid Romo?

are something you do and then realize you screwed up, like leaving a door open. What Paterno did was make a decision not to act.

for his poor decision, he did a lot of good things for the university and the surrounding community.

In contrast, over in Gettysburg, you will find statues and monuments to Confederate soldiers who fought to divide the nation.

Fuck Joe Paterno.

In comment 11635926 Reale01 said:

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He also did many, many, good things and helped a lot of people. Do those all go away? He is a big part of the town and PSU history. Statues commemorate history, they do not judge history. Should Stone Mountain in Georgia be destroyed because it commemorates the Confederacy? Should the washington and Jefferson Memorials be destroyed because they each owned slaves? I think they had children with slaves - that would make them rapists. Should Jerry World be torn down because he picked his nose and overpaid Romo?

This is 2014, not 1776. Joe Paterno is not a Founding Father, he's a football coach. His sins should not be forgiven because he built a football program. Judged according to the standards of their day, Jefferson and Washington were men of their times. At this time in history, sitting idly by while child rape occurs in your school's facilities ought not be chalked up to being a "man of your time." Because that is not acceptable in our time and if it was ever acceptable it sure as hell hasn't been for a long, long time.

I want craziness out in the open for the world to see. I'm hoping their next move is to just change the name of the town to Carcosa.

...of him crying.

Your post should be destroyed

n comment 11635926 Reale01 said:

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He also did many, many, good things and helped a lot of people. Do those all go away? He is a big part of the town and PSU history. Statues commemorate history, they do not judge history. Should Stone Mountain in Georgia be destroyed because it commemorates the Confederacy? Should the washington and Jefferson Memorials be destroyed because they each owned slaves? I think they had children with slaves - that would make them rapists. Should Jerry World be torn down because he picked his nose and overpaid Romo?

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He also did many, many, good things and helped a lot of people. Do those all go away?

Unfortunately, yes they do. Every decision you make in life has consequences. Some of those are minor and short lived and others stay with you the rest of your life. I teach my kids this about making good decisions. You can't simply wash away bad things in your life by doing good things. They don't make it go away. No matter what he did before and after that decision, that became the defining moment of his life. Maybe he should have made a better decision.

discussion about a mediocre team in a bad conference.

In comment 11636056 Metnut said:

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discussion about a mediocre team in a bad conference.

Exactly. I never understood the big deal about Penn State. I drove by there last week on my way to someplace else, and I can't imagine that place means much more than that to most people...a place you drive by on the way to somewhere more important. I've never seen a group of people with a more overinflated sense of importance over something so non-important.

In comment 11636069 Go Terps said:

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In comment 11636056 Metnut said: Quote: discussion about a mediocre team in a bad conference. Exactly. I never understood the big deal about Penn State. I drove by there last week on my way to someplace else, and I can't imagine that place means much more than that to most people...a place you drive by on the way to somewhere more important. I've never seen a group of people with a more overinflated sense of importance over something so non-important.

Says the guy who uses a college mascot in his handle.

is a Coward.

He was a coward. Not evil, but a tremendous coward.

Regardless of what anyone believes about JoePa, it's pretty shocking that this statue is happening.

- Franco Harris

Maybe Matt Lauer can interview the sculptor and see if there is any more damage he can do?

I guess we should put a Michael Jackson statue outside of Disney world.

for target practice

Paterno is burning in hell as we speak