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lpdcan28 : 2:01 pm
buying and mounting a new tv soon. my old plasma was put up about 7 years ago. do i need new hdmi cables for my new tv? the new tv will be an LED 1080 at least 120 refresh rate. IF id get a smart or 3dtv, do i specifically need a new certain type of hdmi cable? the people at best buy and hhgregg give me different answers. hoping someone here knows this stuff. thanks.
Wouldn't hurt to get  
NYdeuce : 2:07 pm : link
a new cable since they are very inexpensive. 28AWG will be good unless you are running it over 50ft which I doubt.
Monoprice - ( New Window )
dont go cheap on an hdmi cable  
asbasb : 2:07 pm : link
you get what you pay for.

Monster is a good consumer brand, but your best buy should have a notch up (i.e. audio quest) The general consensus is that in the long run over time your signal will continually degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion so you should invest in the gold tipped high speed wires with extra insulation.

No, you do not need new HDMI cables  
Blue Baller : 2:11 pm : link
HDMI is a digital signal. Either it works or it doesn't

There is no performance to be gained for more expensive or newer cables.

If you have a high speed hdmi cable,  
you won't need to replace it even if you purchased a 4K TV.
Peter, you're a techie.  
Randy in CT : 2:13 pm : link
What's this mean:

"degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion"
expensive cables  
are a scam
Ya dozent has ta get  
Expensive HDMI cables .
all hdmi cables is the same - ( New Window )
expensive cables aren't needed  
UConn4523 : 2:16 pm : link
the gold plating won't make any noticeable difference.
RE: dont go cheap on an hdmi cable  
In comment 11636641 asbasb said:
Quote:
you get what you pay for.

Monster is a good consumer brand, but your best buy should have a notch up (i.e. audio quest) The general consensus is that in the long run over time your signal will continually degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion so you should invest in the gold tipped high speed wires with extra insulation.


This is some of the worst advice ever. You really bought the salesman's pitch at Best Buy, huh?

If your existing HDMI cables work, there is absolutely no reason to replace them. And there is no reason to spend bug bucks on Monster or Audio Quest cables. It's a digital signal - it either works or it doesn't. You get get cables that are cheap and work fine at Monoprice.com.
RE: dont go cheap on an hdmi cable  
Jon from PA : 2:25 pm : link
In comment 11636641 asbasb said:
Quote:
you get what you pay for.

Monster is a good consumer brand, but your best buy should have a notch up (i.e. audio quest) The general consensus is that in the long run over time your signal will continually degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion so you should invest in the gold tipped high speed wires with extra insulation.


Why would you give somebody such bad advice? WHY?!?
RE: Peter, you're a techie.  
In comment 11636651 Randy in CT said:
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What's this mean:

"degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion"


You have to take the post in its entirety and not just that phrase. "Monster is a good consumer brand" can be translated into "I hope you have boots on because the bullshit is about to get deep."

If I recall correctly, asbasb is in the business and I believe the post is dripping with sarcasm?
Cables  
PaulN : 2:31 pm : link
Make NO DIFFERENCE in picture quality, anyone that thinks that is clueless, Now the reason you may want to spend on a better cable would be the time that cable would last, they do go, and you then get interference in the picture, I have seen it already with one cable I purchased. If you have a cable that is working fine, use it, unless you don't care one way or the other to spend the extra, but digital signal is either clean or it is not, there is NEVER subtle differences in quality. NEVER!
not bad asbasb  
NoPeanutz : 2:32 pm : link
but pay closer attention to Poe's Law.

No, you should not buy expensive hdmi cables.
*****Peter  
asbasb : 2:32 pm : link
thanks for calling me out and it is dripping with sarcasm.

HDMI is a digital signal so it is either there or not. It either works or it doesn't. Buy the cheapest one you can for the length you need.

Now, you may start to experience some signal loss in a wire run of about 50-55 feet.
RE: dont go cheap on an hdmi cable  
In comment 11636641 asbasb said:
Quote:
you get what you pay for.

Monster is a good consumer brand, but your best buy should have a notch up (i.e. audio quest) The general consensus is that in the long run over time your signal will continually degrade in a lognormal over Poisson fashion so you should invest in the gold tipped high speed wires with extra insulation.


Buy from Monoprice. Good company, best prices, quick shipping.  
Any brick and mortar store, you'll end up paying too much off the shelf.
if you are covering a run over 50ft  
Bockman : 2:38 pm : link
you can buy a high-speed cable with a chip in it that boosts the signal - Redmere. Monoprice has these as well and I use it in my basement bar/theater. Works great. Only drawback is that it's uni-directional, meaning that there's an actual "source" end and a "monitor" end.
Cheap is cheap.  
winoguy : 2:40 pm : link
Ive had 3 cheap cables from Monoprice fail miseably in less than 2 years because.... they're CHEAP! Cheaply made and cheaply constructed of cheap materials. It doesnt hurt to spend a few more $ on a better built cable. You get what you pay for most of the time .
What are you doing with HDMI cables that would cause them to fail?  
I've never heard of such a thing.
RE: Cheap is cheap.  
Cam in MO : 2:43 pm : link
In comment 11636712 winoguy said:
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Ive had 3 cheap cables from Monoprice fail miseably in less than 2 years because.... they're CHEAP! Cheaply made and cheaply constructed of cheap materials. It doesnt hurt to spend a few more $ on a better built cable. You get what you pay for most of the time .


I buy mine at Wal-Mart and have never had one fail.



TTH,  
winoguy : 2:45 pm : link
Doing nothing out of the ordinary, but if you move them a few times or connect/ re- connect the termination at the plug seems to fail. To say they are not built to last would be an understatement. That is my experience anyway.
Cheap cables work fine unless . . . .  
Ralph.C : 2:50 pm : link
. . . you are going to be constantly connecting and disconnecting the them. I had a situation where I frequently moved a small TV from my bedroom to my kitchen using the same cheap cable and it developed a problem. I picked up a better quality one and it took the "punishment" just fine.
I get my cables at monoprice  
Wuphat : 2:52 pm : link
They're inexpensive and they work just as well as expensive cables.

I buy whatever is second cheapest on Amazon  
NoPeanutz : 2:57 pm : link
usually between $1-$2 each. I don't get the cheapest bc that just seems like tempting fate a bit.
I've got game systems, blu-ray players and cable boxes  
all set up with HDMI on the cheap, none of them have fallen apart or broken.

The only cable that has failed on me is a Monster-brand optical audio cable.
RE: *****Peter  
In comment 11636694 asbasb said:
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thanks for calling me out and it is dripping with sarcasm.

HDMI is a digital signal so it is either there or not. It either works or it doesn't. Buy the cheapest one you can for the length you need.

Now, you may start to experience some signal loss in a wire run of about 50-55 feet.

I'd skip the sarcasm in the future. There's an art to sarcasm, and you clearly don't have it.
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