two of them were a father-son team. Why would you want to kill people who are simply trying to help other people and provide them with medical care? God these people are despicable! Link - ( New Window )
and anyone else who intentionally and indiscriminately kills innocent men, women and children for no reason other than to draw attention to themselves or their "cause".
I'm sure you intention was to single out those "despicable" people, but one can also interpret your use of "these people" as Afghans in general, who we are there to help.
As Duned has stated, vast majority of Afghans are normal people (but from a different culture), who want to live their lives in peace.
Just a tragic story, but it shows you the dedication of the doctors to their oath that they would operate on the attacker when he was wounded.
People can twist words around to suit their own agenda just like
statisticians can use numbers to support whatever they want. The fact that someone chose to focus only on two words in a message about three American doctors being murdered in a hospital speaks volumes to me about their mindset. The location where an incident like this takes place is irrelevant as the type of people who do something like this are truly despicable.
statisticians can use numbers to support whatever they want. The fact that someone chose to focus only on two words in a message about three American doctors being murdered in a hospital speaks volumes to me about their mindset. The location where an incident like this takes place is irrelevant as the type of people who do something like this are truly despicable.
Your words weren't twisted. They were quoted directly with no further comment. In the original context you provided, that was sufficient. What you've done since is attempt to spin and/or clarify, providing further context for that original poor choice of words.
One of two things happened. Either (nearly) everyone here who responded read your OP correctly and you're now attempting to twist your way out. Or you're clarifying that which you expressed poorly in your OP. In either case, that's not about what everyone else has written here. It's about what you wrote.
There's no lack of shared sympathy at the horror of this act. Nor admiration for the brave and principled actions of the surviving doctors. There's an appropriate intolerance of someone (appearing to) respond(ing) to a hateful act with a grossly overreaching generalization.
If you were, somehow, truly unfamiliar with how the words 'these people' might be read/heard in a context such as this, this virtual beating may have saved you a real life beating in the future.
I equated it with the person or people who perpetrated this heinous act and would want to kill people who are only trying to help other people and provide medical care. It's not like this is the first time this happened.
But that's just me. I don't have obsessive agenda disorder.
I think its pretty obvious who Duke was referring to
with his use of "these". He identified the attacker by ethnicity in the thread title but only spoke of his actions in the OP. He didn't express any ill sentiments toward Afghans in general. Far more innocuous than saying "nuke the whole area". If you really came away from that offended then you're probably looking for a reason.
It's pretty pathetic that the topic of conversation...
has shifted from this despicable act and its victims to what the OP meant by "these people." There are some people who refuse to differentiate between the great mass of peaceful Afghans, or Muslims more generally, and murderous scumbags like this guy, but semantics or even outright bigotry (not that I would accuse the OP of that) should not overshadow the act.
But it isn't very clear what group of people are "these people" he is referring to? Is it just an all inclusive list of anyone who kills others that are trying to help others? That's a very large list of people he's referring to. It can also easily be interpreted as referring to the collective group of people we have been trying to help. As I've said in my earlier post, I am not saying one way or another on what the OP meant, but as demonstrated by the nuke 'em all comment by another poster, these kinds of incidents do evoke some strong feelings about not only the perpetrator but the perpetrator's countrymen as well. Hence, the OP may come off a bit more generalizing than intended.
Yes, the Taliban and their sympathizers, other assorted terrorists and radical Islamists holding out in Afghanistan and Northeastern Pakistan, and the suicide bombers disguised as ordinary Afghanistanis waiting for their turn to blow up innocent civilians and foreigners, would all easily qualify under the category of "these people."
And anyone who tries to turn commentary on this into alleged racism would fall under another, merely obnoxious category of "these people."
As Duned has stated, vast majority of Afghans are normal people (but from a different culture), who want to live their lives in peace.
Just a tragic story, but it shows you the dedication of the doctors to their oath that they would operate on the attacker when he was wounded.
Your words weren't twisted. They were quoted directly with no further comment. In the original context you provided, that was sufficient. What you've done since is attempt to spin and/or clarify, providing further context for that original poor choice of words.
One of two things happened. Either (nearly) everyone here who responded read your OP correctly and you're now attempting to twist your way out. Or you're clarifying that which you expressed poorly in your OP. In either case, that's not about what everyone else has written here. It's about what you wrote.
There's no lack of shared sympathy at the horror of this act. Nor admiration for the brave and principled actions of the surviving doctors. There's an appropriate intolerance of someone (appearing to) respond(ing) to a hateful act with a grossly overreaching generalization.
If you were, somehow, truly unfamiliar with how the words 'these people' might be read/heard in a context such as this, this virtual beating may have saved you a real life beating in the future.
But that's just me. I don't have obsessive agenda disorder.
And anyone who tries to turn commentary on this into alleged racism would fall under another, merely obnoxious category of "these people."