Victor Cruz comments on the WR position

Kevin Gilbride said the same thing, but apparently he's an idiot.

he'd be a great pick IMO.

can you please quit it? I was a big KG fan but there is a theory out there that as good as he was, it was also time to move on.

shot at Randle by Cruz. And I appreciate it.

at #12 if he is by chance still there. We need an outstanding WR to help take the pressure off of Crux and I am not at all convinced that Randle is the solution.

There is great depth at WR though and a very good WR can be had at 43. I'd love a Donald at 12 best WR at 43 draft. Do it Jerry!

In comment 11637016 2ndroundKO said:

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shot at Randle by Cruz. And I appreciate it.

Absolutely a thinly veiled shot at Randle.

I'm surprised at these comments.

I don't think it's in any way veiled, he's basically saying he needs help out there and it hasn't been coming from Randle.

it as a shot at RR. More of a matter of fact comment said by everyone this offseason. He didn't get nod to take over from Reese. Coughlin didn't really get his back and say RR is the guy. Now Cruz makes that comment. I think they all see flashes from RR, but I wouldn't count him as the guy.

With 2 years left on Elis deal, I wouldn't go all in on RR. If I have a chance to upgrade the WR, OL and TE then I am.

Odell Beckham at 12 if you have a strong conviction on him. He's going to be a player.

I dont think evans lasts to 12 either so we would be looking at these recievers at 12

Lee
Cooks
Odell beckham

with the seeming intent of lighting a fire under randle

tell you what's incredible is that Cody Latimer was invited to New York, something nobody could have foreseen just a few months ago. He'd be a great choice in the second.

play with teams matching up their best CB/shifting coverage towards him.

on how the other WRs do if that happens. If other step up then that's fine.

In comment 11637065 chris r said:

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play with teams matching up their best CB/shifting coverage towards him.

That's not new. He's dealt with it before, but it's part of the reason they really need a #1 receiver to draw coverage. Cruz can be slowed down and made to be a nonfactor without help.

it's the truth. Everybody at WR behind Cruz still has a lot to prove in the NFL. It's a unit that needs competition.

I'd think at least one of Robinson, Moncrief, Adams or Latimer would be available for us in the 2nd. Jordan Matthews too.

Be mad if Watkins fell past 5 and we move up for him, maybe trading a third this year and a pick the next year. Don't really want to give up our 2nd round pick this year as I think a good Olineman/Niklas will be there

a shot at Nicks and his lousy play last year

can be on the outside. Safe pick. Great athlete. Versatile in the return game. Can stretch the D and take it to the house from a screen.

I mean if we had to jump up to 2 spots to grab Evans what would it cost us?

I also think if we trade back and select Benjamin that would be good if we got a late 2nd or early 3rd. Go get our OL in Rd 2 and get our TE with the pick we get in the trade back.

Giants AND more importantly ELI needs a big target. Stats dont lie. Look when he had Plax and Nicks playing big. He excelled. When he didnt have a big target his numbers dropped. Look what happened after Plax shot himself. That should say enough. Eli and the team fell apart without a big target for Eli. When Nicks played like a beast his first 2 years look at the outcome. Superbowl with Plax and a Superbowl when Nicks was a beast hauling in hailmary's at GB

I hope Evans falls to us

at 12th overall

To judge a guys potential after just one year? Is there no room for growth? Is the media being hard on randle?

that's a shot at Nicks if anything, IMO. How can he take one at Randle when he was our #3 WR last year?

People read into things way too much.

In comment 11637244 UConn4523 said:

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that's a shot at Nicks if anything, IMO. How can he take one at Randle when he was our #3 WR last year? People read into things way too much.

Randle is the next man up as an outside WR. If Cruz believed in Randle and thought we already had a talented outside WR on the roster, wouldn't he be saying we don't need to draft a WR at 12?

they need a big play guy. Never said they need to go get one, make a move, draft one, etc. he's saying they need better play at that position and Randle hasn't had that opportunity yet. I'm sure it's motivational, but BBI has a habit of thinking every little quote is a shot at something.

In comment 11637252 UConn4523 said:

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they need a big play guy. Never said they need to go get one, make a move, draft one, etc. he's saying they need better play at that position and Randle hasn't had that opportunity yet. I'm sure it's motivational, but BBI has a habit of thinking every little quote is a shot at something.

In an interview that will air on Thursday's edition of "NFL Total Access," Victor Cruz pitched the idea of selecting a wide receiver in the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft because the Giants "definitely" need help at the position.

"A (big-play receiver) is something we need in this offense to be successful," Cruz continued. "An outside guy that can do the job and that can help fuel all the other receivers in the locker room and put some fire up under them to get them where they have to be."


Cruz's top choice for the Giants at No. 12 overall? Texas A&M wide receiver Mike Evans.

he'll probably want a WR every year if he could.

My point is that Randle hasn't been given the opportunity so it's impossible to know until it's seen. I'm in favor of drafting Evans if he's there but I'd rather go OL. I think Cruz will see a big improvement if he has more time to run his routes and no one dogging it at WR across from him.

He could have said me rr and jj got this. Let's give Eli some time and get a dynamic tight end and we will ball out here.

He did not say that. He either has no faith in rr or jj or both

Cruz didn't say to pick a WR and that he didn't say they need to go get one.

Cruz has seen Randle the last 2 years, knows what kind of work ethic and attitude he has. If he felt comfortable with Randle stepping up as the outside WR, I think he would've come out in support of the guy instead of publicly saying we should draft a WR at 12 and saying that we really need an outside guy. It's not a good thing that he's saying that they need a big play WR to light a fire under the other receivers.

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An outside guy that can do the job and that can help fuel all the other receivers in the locker room and put some fire up under them to get them where they have to be.

Rueben Randle is entering his 3rd year and Cruz is the only guy ahead of him on the depth chart. He shouldn't need someone being drafted at 12 to put a fire under him to get him and the other Giants WR's "where they have to be"

These links don't clearly tell the whole story. I'm not sure anyone ever said that Randall can't be the kind of guy they need if he steps up this year. If he can't that goes back to Reese/Ross. If Cruz is really crapping on Randall, that, in addition to his "I'm a brand first" quote, makes me wonder what kind of a-hole he is.

In comment 11637285 Bill in UT said:

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These links don't clearly tell the whole story. I'm not sure anyone ever said that Randall can't be the kind of guy they need if he steps up this year. If he can't that goes back to Reese/Ross. If Cruz is really crapping on Randall, that, in addition to his "I'm a brand first" quote, makes me wonder what kind of a-hole he is.

It's from a recap of his interview from Total Access that aired today... which is on the link in the OP.

the interview is not on the link above. But it states that Cruz said all this in the recap that is on the link above.

does not give the full context of what Cruz said or what he was asked. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Kg would throw a bomb
On 3rd and 1 w no
Blocking..he didnt
Like te's..throws
An out screen on 10
Yrd line or into oline.ect..
We won 2 SB's running ball
And great D.

In comment 11637309 SBlue46 said:

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Kg would throw a bomb On 3rd and 1 w no Blocking..he didnt Like te's..throws An out screen on 10 Yrd line or into oline.ect.. We won 2 SB's running ball And great D.

I've started to imagine you are writing your posts on the world's smallest typewriter and every line ends with a ding

In comment 11637315 Giantology said:

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In comment 11637309 SBlue46 said: Quote: Kg would throw a bomb On 3rd and 1 w no Blocking..he didnt Like te's..throws An out screen on 10 Yrd line or into oline.ect.. We won 2 SB's running ball And great D. I've started to imagine you are writing your posts on the world's smallest typewriter and every line ends with a ding

Hahahahahah

wasn't taking a shot at Randle, like when Simms said Eli was not playing like an elite QB, he was just being honest. If Randle lit it up last season and became Nicks' evident heir apparent, no one would be thinking the Giants main need in the draft is WR. Randle played the way he did, so the Giants cannot say they have the #1 or 1A receiver to compliment Cruz.
I liked what he said about Gilbride, KG was great, but he (and I) is looking forward to playing in an offense where Eli doesn't have to make decisions by reading his receivers body language. As much success as the Giants have had with that system, they were pretty damned close to not making the the playoffs at all in 07 and 11. It was an awesome system when everyone was on the same page, but the subtlety of the passing game was not a recipe for consistency. Ok, ok, 2 Lombardis in 5 years is consistent, but this has been kicked around enough so that most can at least entertain such an idea.
Anyway, Im excited for the change, and if Evans is not there, plenty of good WRs to take in later rounds.

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“If I had my choice, if I had my pick, I think we should go receiver,” Cruz said on NFL Total Access. “I think we definitely need some help, especially losing a guy like Hakeem Nicks, such a big-play guy in our offense. I think that’s something we need back in this offense to be successful. An outside guy that can do the job and that can help fuel all the other receivers in the locker room and put some fire up under them to get them where they have to be.” That last sentence seemed to be directed at third-year pro Rueben Randle, who currently is slated to step into Nicks’ shoes. However, though the Giants do have high hopes for Randle, Giants GM Jerry Reese recently said “the jury’s still out” on whether he can be a No. 1 receiver in the league. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/cruz-giants-draft-wr-blog-entry-1.1768297#ixzz2zrPIEGyq

Cruz wants Giants to draft another WR - ( New Window )

need help at WR.

They just also have probably the worst TE unit in the NFL right now and a very bad OL still (forget RB, which they won't touch early in the draft, but still need help at or DT/DE/S, defensively).

Unfortunately, you can only fill so many holes -- future or current -- with one draft and you can't control what talent is available when you pick.

basically has been a zero except for the game against the Eagles at the end of 12 when their team quit . And against the porous Cowboy secondary. Other than that he's been tits and he's at the microphone the other day talking about the great new offense as a way to deflect attention from himself. I like Robinson at WR in the second round. Evans will be gone. As for the new offense--you've seen it before. It will most likely resemble Fassel's version of the WCO. Closer to Sean Payton's than the Packers' version. The Giants don't have any speed at WR. VIctor is great and he can get deep but he's not fast.

In comment 11637252 UConn4523 said:

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they need a big play guy. Never said they need to go get one, make a move, draft one, etc. he's saying they need better play at that position and Randle hasn't had that opportunity yet. I'm sure it's motivational, but BBI has a habit of thinking every little quote is a shot at something.

No, that is wrong. Cruz plainly said they should draft a WR. And he made the comment about "getting the other wrs more fired up...and where they need to be" very late in his interview so as to clearly have this point heard. Motivation or a shot, whatever his intent is, its for Randle.

I just don't understand the love for Evans sure he is big but he lacks big play speed that was great in the NCAA FB but guess what this is the NFL. If that was the missing item in our offense then why did we sign MM and Holiday two small but speed guys. For those of you that think just because Eli has a big tall receiver his accuracy problems will all disappear god help you.

We have Cruz all of us agree he is best in the slot, we have Randle the guy who makes Eli look bad all the time (Nicks is gone he gets this job all to himself now), JJ could be a wild card or a flash in the dark we really don't know we dream him for him. All the other WR's are new and just like this new offense unknown. We would all love to get Watkins but guess what last time I checked he was 6-1, 200, 4.4 not 6-5, 230, 4.55. This draft has maybe 8-10 WR's that could come in and help any team to some extent not at the Nicks (healthy/committed), extent that's a pipe dream. We lack big play speed at the WR position and someone to push Randle and JJ to excel or to the bench.

Now if we draft Ebron he gives us the same ability as Evans but at a position of need TE. I'm not a big Ebron fan prefer Jenkins but I would draft Ebron before Evans for our offense.

I be a little more interested if this comment came from McAdoo. I doubt VC has broken down the Giants needs much beyond what he sees at WR.

Also, I thought Cruz was our big play WR.

the other wrs jobs easier due to the fact that most cb's won't be able to shut him down without help. People will dispute this, but he's alot like Plaxico Buress was. All the scouts are saying the same thing - even when he's not open, he's open. That's a huge advantage to have in sustaining drives and in the redzone. I also read from one of the scouts that Evans is a total student of the game in that he really studies gamefilm looking for ways to get better. I really want this guy on the Giants, even if we have to trade Randle to swap 1st round picks with Oakland at #5. Let's do this!

that was included in the OP. I disagree that his comments were a shot at Randle. It sounded more Cruz was giving a polite nod to Hakeem Nicks, acknowledging his contributions to the team, and to Cruz's own production, when he was with the team.

I think in this new offense that McAdoo will be presenting, somebody like Randle who had a reputation for precision route-running coming out of college will stand to benefit.

I think the "big play receiver" that Cruz refers to won't be as necessary in this offense because I don't think we'll see the same frequency of Eli chucking the ball deep down the field as he did in Gilbride's offense. The big plays will come from YAC, which Cruz himself has quite a specialty in.