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RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 5:31 pm
NYY (12-9)

1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF
2. Derek Jeter (R) SS
3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF
4. Alfonso Soriano (R) DH
5. Mark Teixeira (S) 1B
6. Brian McCann (L) CA
7. Brett Gardner (L) LF
8. Brian Roberts (S) 2B
9. Yangervis Solarte (S) 3B

SP CC Sabathia (2-2) 5.19 ERA

vs.

SP Felix Doubront (1-2) 5.48 ERA

1. Dustin Pedroia (R) 2B
2. Shane Victorino (R) RF
3. David Ortiz (L) DH
4. Mike Napoli (R) 1B
5. Jonny Gomes (R) LF
6. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS
7. Brock Holt (L) 3B
8. David Ross (R) CA
9. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF

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And Judge is primarily playing RF...  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 9:40 pm : link
he's actually very athletic, he'll probably stay an outfielder.
Holt has been feast or famine with the leather...  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 9:45 pm : link
a couple bad plays and a couple webgems.
Nice to see Solarte with some solid ABs  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 9:46 pm : link
from the right side.

9-2
Soooooolarte.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2014 9:47 pm : link
Hehe.
touched by a fan - douche  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 9:47 pm : link
and takes a run from us.

10-2 double Ellsbury. WE have hit alot of doubles this season.
big time hit for Jeter and two rbis  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 9:49 pm : link
12-2

Sox going to be pining for better days.
Well, this is awesome.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2014 9:51 pm : link
.
welcome to the majors  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:04 pm : link
Shane Greene.
Pretty amazing for Solarte, even if he fades a bit, as expected.  
manh george : 4/24/2014 10:06 pm : link
He is getting good swings and good at bats, and there isn't any reason to think that this will disappear entirely (I hope). 9 years inn the minors, and now this. Tied for #1 in RBI on the team is a little weird.

Of course, he is only 26, and switch hitters sometimes mature later.
Jeter should buy Greene dinner tonight  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 10:08 pm : link
...
Cap  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:08 pm : link
is officially done in the field.
Jeter  
B in ALB : 4/24/2014 10:09 pm : link
What the Fuck.
Come on guys.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/24/2014 10:11 pm : link
Help the kid out.
and McCann's got desert  
wigs in nyc : 4/24/2014 10:11 pm : link
anyone able to offer a quick scouting report on Greene?

I can't find Dune's prospect preview from earlier.

Thanks, as always, fellas
Greene  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:12 pm : link
looks like he has a heavy sinker. Could be a useful piece with Warren likely getting the bump to late innings. I'm sure he is battling to hold on to the spot for at least the next 10 days.
this seems  
MookGiants : 4/24/2014 10:15 pm : link
like the perfect score to bring in Betances
Mid-90's FB with movement...  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 10:15 pm : link
plus slider and change. Control really came around last year, going from about 5/9 down to under 2/9. Older for a prospect at 25 but he's probably a starter long term.
he sure has the jitters  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:16 pm : link
tonight. A stadium full of people looking at you like a piece of meat can have that effect.
Tough on the guy...  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 10:17 pm : link
kid has had two outings this season prior to this one and has never really relieved, not surprising he struggled to establish a rhythm.
Thanks guys  
wigs in nyc : 4/24/2014 10:17 pm : link
he was being stretched out down there, right? Only to be called up in a reliever role?

Tough first outing, but them's the bigs. The vets around him certainly didn't do him any favors.
it also doesn't help  
MookGiants : 4/24/2014 10:18 pm : link
when you have your SS behind you booting another ball. Jeter in the field the last 2 days has been painful.
8 strikes and 15 balls, yikes that's ugly  
Kulish29 : 4/24/2014 10:18 pm : link
...
If they think as highly of Greene as they supposedly do...  
Dunedin81 : 4/24/2014 10:22 pm : link
they need to stick him in the AAA rotation and leave him the fuck alone. Call him up for spot starts, he's not a reliever, it doesn't really match up with his repertoire.
terrible pitch location by Warren  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:22 pm : link
just end this inning. I can only handle so much terrible defense in one game. This one has far exceeded my threshold.
Carp in to pitch  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:45 pm : link
featuring a Boggsian knuckler.
take this guy  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:50 pm : link
deep Sol
so far  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:51 pm : link
17 walks combined in this game.

Cold weather - pine tar = sloppy games where batters get hit.
apparently Farrell  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:54 pm : link
doesn't like Carp very much.

14-5
LOL.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2014 10:54 pm : link
Tell those mouthbreathers behind home plate to sit the fuck down.
Carp almost threw one  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:56 pm : link
that left the field of play.

Up to 38 pitches...
Johnson  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:57 pm : link
swung at ball 4. Damnit.

I'd say we have even money on Carp landing on the DL tomorrow.
At least we made them use their pen tonight.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2014 10:58 pm : link
Some payback for last night's clusterfuck.
Robertson in  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 10:59 pm : link
guess Betances wasn't available.
Murphy  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 11:01 pm : link
still looks like he is 13 years old.
blowing the Red Sox out  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/24/2014 11:03 pm : link
never gets old. Nice win, loved seeing Ellsbury have a big game.
nice to have Robertson back  
RasputinPrime : 4/24/2014 11:04 pm : link
Moving on out.
Nice series win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/24/2014 11:05 pm : link
That's two series wins against Boston this season, thus far. Nice to see CC have a really good outing, too.
Ellsbury was a beast in this series  
mfsd : 4/24/2014 11:13 pm : link
didn't see all of it tonight, but I've been in libraries louder than Fenway at the end of this one...sounds like a pretty odd game. We'll take it
Awesome ass kicking and series win  
Kulish29 : 4/24/2014 11:30 pm : link
The Townies can
Toronto and TB lose.  
Del Shofner : 4/24/2014 11:39 pm : link
Yanks' lead is now 1.5, over the Balto's.
I can always count on mook...  
mattnyg05 : 4/24/2014 11:52 pm : link
14-5 demolition of Boston and his only comment in the entire thread is on Jeters fielding.
I actually  
MookGiants : 4/25/2014 12:23 am : link
didn't even comment on it until after 10 other people talked about how bad of a play it was and then how rough of a night Greene had.

And it wasn't my only post in the thread, so nice try. I only watched last few innings because I was watching hockey and nba playoffs.

Am I wrong when I say Jeter is terrible in the field at this point?
thankfully  
MookGiants : 4/25/2014 12:27 am : link
Jeter is hitting decently well because with the defense he's giving if he's out there hitting .250 he would be a huge negative. His defense can't continue to be this bad, he's giving away hits and runs on a routine basis
I would say Jeter should get tomorrow off but  
Kulish29 : 4/25/2014 12:32 am : link
who starts in his place? Solarte with Johnson at 3rd?
RE: I actually  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2014 12:37 am : link
In comment 11637544 MookGiants said:
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didn't even comment on it until after 10 other people talked about how bad of a play it was and then how rough of a night Greene had.

And it wasn't my only post in the thread, so nice try. I only watched last few innings because I was watching hockey and nba playoffs.

Am I wrong when I say Jeter is terrible in the field at this point?


You're not wrong. Actually, last night between his fielding and his hitting I was thinking maybe Jeter is sick or something, because he just looked bad doing pretty much everything. At least he hit tonight.

Look, he's going to be 40 this year. No one has played a full year at SS in the history of MLB at his age (I believe I read that somewhere). He's coming off a year of injuries. It's not going to be pretty.

But I think he has a lot of desire to win one more World Series this year and he'll be a good leader.
the closest comparable I can think of would be Luis Aparicio in 1973  
Del Shofner : 4/25/2014 12:40 am : link
at age 39, and looks like he played 132 games or so.

For those of you not so old, Aparicio was a great SS and is deservedly in the HOF, as will be Jeter.
Luis - ( New Window )
As bad as he's been recently in the field  
MookGiants : 4/25/2014 1:03 am : link
you have to believe it's just a bump in the road. He's atrocious going to his left but he's generally pretty good with anything he can get to, that hasn't been the case this week. Likely just a bad week and hopefully doesn't continue.
I agree  
mattnyg05 : 4/25/2014 6:36 am : link
You're not wrong to say he's been terrible in the field. The last three games he has been.

I've been burnt out by a similar jeter "hater" who just kills him routinely (and also the entire Yankees for that matter, and is a Yankee "fan"). My point to him has been simple:

You can't hate athletes who do what Jeter has done for your favorite team. You just can't. It's almost impossible. These types are the same people who wanted Mattingly gone before the leg kick, who wanted LT to stop blocking someone's path in 92-93, who wanted Ewing traded before he got traded. I wonder how many people wanted Mantle to take a seat at the end? When these guys leave, you can only PRAY the next one in line is half the player.

Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good in terms of them being relatively shitty at the end. It happens. Jeter isn't even that bad right now, he's had some bad fielding games for sure. The trade off is everything he's done in the past, of course it's the past, but he's not crippling your team (and his presence IMO helps regardless).

Sorry to vent but your comments just seemed to click with someone else who baffles me in their hatred of Jeter, more so than you. And I'm not even a Jeter ball worshipper, not by a long shot, but that persons attitude has made me at least a Jeter defender.
Del  
Greg from LI : 4/25/2014 10:48 am : link
Omar Vizquel started 136 games at SS for the Giants in 2007 when he was 40.
Jeter hasn't been nearly as bad  
kmed : 4/25/2014 11:05 am : link
as some of the people are saying(hoping, don't let them tell you different). He certainly has had a few rough moments in this past week and he definitely doesn't have good range at this age, but he's been solid enough throughout the season. 2 nights ago there was a nubber up the middle that Jeter got to(to his left) and the ball took a weird spin and went by jeter. Jeter was bashed for his range when it had absolutely nothign to do with his range, he just missed it. The dude is 40 and he's helping out offensively, the need to point out on a daily basis that he sucks is ridiculous and agenda driven.
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