Would you accept this potential scenario?

in Madden?

The Phins ain't giving up on Tannehill.

likely Martin. So I'm not sure about the basic premise of this.

But Su'a-Filo would be a great pick. I'd want Dujuan Jones in the 3rd if he's there, as we need another DT and he's a big run stuffer like Joseph.

But, assuming it goes down that way, where/why will these guys be absolute starters as you predict?

#1 - Where? Snee will start as long as he can walk, Schwartz is a high-priced FA.
#2 - Where? Moncrief is a 21-yr. old rookie that has 3 NFL vets in front of him.
#3 - We have a RT and Beatty will be given every chance at LT.
#4 - Maybe.
#5 - Rotational Dl, agree.

Would be a fantastic draft, but not a 2014 salvation, IMO.

Loves Tannehill. Where would you get the idea that they would do that. If anything Arizona may trade up. Why was Cleveland trading up from 26? Moncrief at 43 is taken ahead of about 4-5 better WRs like Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Jordan Matthews, etc. I don't think Kareem Martin makes it that far.

Xavier Su'a-Filo replaces Snee at RG in Game 8 as Snee wears down/is injured.
Moncrief replaces Nicks so that starting WRs are Cruz, Randle and Mocrief.
Bitonio replaces Pugh at RT as Pugh goes to LT. Beatty either doesn't come back from broken leg or misses most of season or when he comes back, is ineffective.
Fiedorowicz is starting TE.
Martin rotates with JPP, Kiwanuka and Moore.

Tannehill's record is 12-17. Miami newspapers and media speculating that Dolphins FO may not be happy with Tannehill. Even if Dolphins are happy with Tannehill, they are also looking for OL and Martin may be the best OT remaining at 12.

According to today's roster, the Browns only have Brian Hoyer and Alex Tanney at QB. Wouldn't you be looking for a QB if you're the Browns?

As to the WRs: ht. lbs. 40 yds. 10 yds. short shuttle, 3-cone:

Moncrief 6'2" 221 lbs. 4.40 1.50 4.30 7.02
Robinson 6'2" 220 lbs. 4.49 1.54 --- 6.54

According to GBN or Matt Miller, Martin is #113-rated player. He, therefore, should be available in the 3d Round.

The problem is it's unrealistic in the extreme and you can solve most of there issues and get better talent staying with what they have. Donald in the 1st an all pro level star for the DL and much better than Martin. Moncrief in the 2nd just like your draft. Mewhort in the 3rd to add talent at tackle. They signed 2 FA guards plus have potential in Mosley at guard. Maybe you don't get a TE like Fiedorowitz but it's actually possible unlike your sceniero.

Don't get me wrong- I like Donald but he's a DL. For this year, I think there are greater needs on the OL.

As for being unrealistic, maybe so as to the Dolphins trade, but what would you do if Brian Hoyer and Alex Tanney were your QBs on the Browns?

The Giants have two potential starters at LT in Beatty and Pugh. They have two potential starters at RT in Pugh and probably Brown and can add another RT prospect with a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick. They have a ton of guards and need a backup center.

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Tannehill's record is 12-17. Miami newspapers and media speculating that Dolphins FO may not be happy with Tannehill. Even if Dolphins are happy with Tannehill, they are also looking for OL and Martin may be the best OT remaining at 12. According to today's roster, the Browns only have Brian Hoyer and Alex Tanney at QB. Wouldn't you be looking for a QB if you're the Browns? As to the WRs: ht. lbs. 40 yds. 10 yds. short shuttle, 3-cone: Moncrief 6'2" 221 lbs. 4.40 1.50 4.30 7.02 Robinson 6'2" 220 lbs. 4.49 1.54 --- 6.54 According to GBN or Matt Miller, Martin is #113-rated player. He, therefore, should be available in the 3d Round.

Again not sure where you got that? He improved greatly from year one to year 2. Their record before Tannehill 6-10, his first year 7-9, and his second year 8-8... All that while not having a running game and a horrible offensive line. They want to improve the line for him and think he will continue to get better. They aren't down on him at all. As for Cleveland... You state no teams need a QB so why would they need to trade up? Not to mention they most likely will take one with their first pick so now you have to assume they don't do that also in your plans.

As for you Height Weight difference between Moncreif and Robinson that is a joke. Who are you Al Davis. This stats matter more than the one you just posted...

Moncrief - 59 catches 938 yards 6 TDs
Robinson - 97 catches 1432 yards 6 TDs plus even 2 years ago he was better... 77 catches 1018 11TDs

There is a thing about hands, route running, beating a jam, going up and making a play, etc etc etc ... Or do I correctly assume you have AC Leonard as the to TE since he ran a 4.5 and everyone else was slower?

As for Martin you use GBN... you need to check again. He has him as the 48th best player in the draft and even in his latest projection has the NY Giants taking him with the 10th pick of the second round. You can try and cherry pick projections, but at least pick one that supports your theories.

"immediate starters" pan out, and there was a future HOF'er at pick 12? trades are cool but if those are the guys we get draft after those trades then i'll pass. However if the picks are as follows:

1st Round: Brandon Cook WR (#26.)
2d Round: Jace Amaro TE (#43.)
2dA Round: Cyrus Kouandjio OT (#50.)
3d Round: Kyle Van Noy LB/DE (#74.)
3dA Round: Travis Swanson C (#83.)

now that looks a little more appealing

my final comments:

Yes, there is a typo: Tannehill's record is 15-17 and not 12-17.

Rotoworld, 2/7/14 says Tannehill "may lack job security" and on 1/27/ noted that Tannehill had the 2d worst rating on deep balls, saying that he "missed badly" on such throws. Additionally, most Mock Drafts state that the Dolphins want Zack Martin. So, if Tannehill lacks job security or the Dolphins are looking for Zack Martin, they could seek a trade-up to 12.

You misunderstood one of my comments: IMO no team between 19. and 26. seems to need a QB. So, if there is a QB. at 26. that the Browns like, they could try to trade up to 19.

A lot of Mock Drafts show the Browns selecting Sammy Watkins with their 1st pick in Round One.

My view of selecting draftees is to focus primarily on the 10 yd. short shuttle (s/s) and 3-cone. I also look at the 40 yd time for WRs to see if they have deep speed.

Moncrief is faster in the 40 than Robinson and, thus, has better deep speed.
Moncrief is faster in the 10 yds and, thus, may have better separation.
Robinson is faster in the 3-cone.
Moncrief is very fast in the s/s- faster than Sammy Watkins even though Moncrief is 10 lbs. heavier.

In his 7-Round Mock Draft, Matt Miller lists Kareem Miller as #113 and, coincidentally, going to the Giants.

As you said, they lacked the deep ball. So they went and got a new offensive coordinator in Bill Lazor, the Eagles' QB coach last year, to help develop Tannehill. They'll give him at least another year, two tops.

not sure I like Fiedorowitz in our blocking schemes.

Planet theory returns, GY is smiling somewhere

In comment 11637387 Bobby Epps said:

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my final comments: Yes, there is a typo: Tannehill's record is 15-17 and not 12-17. Rotoworld, 2/7/14 says Tannehill "may lack job security" and on 1/27/ noted that Tannehill had the 2d worst rating on deep balls, saying that he "missed badly" on such throws. Additionally, most Mock Drafts state that the Dolphins want Zack Martin. So, if Tannehill lacks job security or the Dolphins are looking for Zack Martin, they could seek a trade-up to 12. You misunderstood one of my comments: IMO no team between 19. and 26. seems to need a QB. So, if there is a QB. at 26. that the Browns like, they could try to trade up to 19. A lot of Mock Drafts show the Browns selecting Sammy Watkins with their 1st pick in Round One. My view of selecting draftees is to focus primarily on the 10 yd. short shuttle (s/s) and 3-cone. I also look at the 40 yd time for WRs to see if they have deep speed. Moncrief is faster in the 40 than Robinson and, thus, has better deep speed. Moncrief is faster in the 10 yds and, thus, may have better separation. Robinson is faster in the 3-cone. Moncrief is very fast in the s/s- faster than Sammy Watkins even though Moncrief is 10 lbs. heavier. In his 7-Round Mock Draft, Matt Miller lists Kareem Miller as #113 and, coincidentally, going to the Giants.

Great so you are Al Davis... Welcome back. If Matt Miller which is cherry picking projections to find one you like had Kareem Miller going with the 10th pick in the 3rd round how does he make it all the way until the second 3rd rounder of your scenario... You premise sucks that Miami wants a QB. You premise sucks that Cleveland will A) Pass on a QB and then B) be so desperate for a QB that they will trade up. You then go by someones 40 time and 10 yard split instead of seeing if he can actually catch the ball, run routes, block, run a route tree, get off a jam, go over the middle, etc. We should sign Darius Heyward-Bey then right? 6'3 215 4.3 40 time!! Horrible just admit it.