Ebron:
"There is one notable (but intentional) omission -- North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron. The consensus top tight end was left off for a reason. Everything I've heard in recent months and weeks indicates the Giants aren't especially high on him, and that they won't draft him at No. 12. Even though misdirection is common this time of the year, that disqualified him for this list."
Martin:
"Word on the street is that the Giants prefer Martin to Lewan. The Notre Dame product comes with less baggage and, despite common perception, is more physical in the run game."
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what i do see is a mismatch nightmare at TE the likes of which we haven't had on this team in a long time. Eli needs a #1 WR AND a TE and it strikes me that we could potentially kill two birds with one stone by drafting Ebron. i see him as a Jimmy Graham type of receiver. now, that might not necessarily work for a Coughlin offense (block first, catch passes second), but i'm thinking Tom is going to have another of his epiphanies this year and will let McAdoo control most of the offensive scheming. if that's the case, i certainly hope we go into the season with a dynamic, pass catching TE. and there's nobody like that on the roster currently. not even close.
If they draft Ebron, then they've gotten better at misdirection since everyone early associated them with Ebron and now the scuttlebutt is in the obvious direction.
If they draft Martin, then they still aren't great at hiding their intentions.
If they draft Martin, then maybe their intentions were fairly transparent anyway...
You guys are funny. You think I can bring another media member to my boss as a source? Not quite. Love Mike G though. He is a friend. Great guy.
Just wanted you all to know I check out this site often and I enjoy the conversation.
cant go through every link and interview for the last six weeks.
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I've heard Martin's name for some time as a target, and it's likely Raanan's source is Mike G, which bodes well for the info.
Fair enough, Jordan.
You guys are funny. You think I can bring another media member to my boss as a source? Not quite. Love Mike G though. He is a friend. Great guy.
Just wanted you all to know I check out this site often and I enjoy the conversation.
Fair enough, Jordan.
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I've heard Martin's name for some time as a target, and it's likely Raanan's source is Mike G, which bodes well for the info.
You guys are funny. You think I can bring another media member to my boss as a source? Not quite. Love Mike G though. He is a friend. Great guy.
Just wanted you all to know I check out this site often and I enjoy the conversation.
Jordan -- appreciated all your info during the free agency period. You were really on top of things. Stick around! Your insight is appreciated.
the only apples to apples comparison that we have at the moment is that Jimmy Graham was drafted in the third round and Ebron is being projected to go in the top 20 picks or so.
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I've heard Martin's name for some time as a target, and it's likely Raanan's source is Mike G, which bodes well for the info.
You guys are funny. You think I can bring another media member to my boss as a source? Not quite. Love Mike G though. He is a friend. Great guy.
Just wanted you all to know I check out this site often and I enjoy the conversation.
Ha! Good for you Jordan.
Giants are probably going QB anyway because that is the only position BBI is not focused on...
Greg - Who compared him to Graham?
As to the merits of personnel, there was nothing in my post that opined on recent personnel decisions. Take what I wrote for what it is.
Hill is 7 years younger than Tuck with a far more healthy body. His brain? Not so healthy..The Giants try not to knee-jerk personel decisions if they can possibly help it..
Hill may have played his last snap for us, for all we know..His talent and upside, far greater than JT's at this point, may be worth being patient for, imv
How do you go about verifying information like this? The public perception of sports journalism is something in between Columbia/Pulitzer journalism and pure speculative rumor-mongering. How do you find the balance?
Lol, based on what?
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I've heard Martin's name for some time as a target, and it's likely Raanan's source is Mike G, which bodes well for the info.
You guys are funny. You think I can bring another media member to my boss as a source? Not quite. Love Mike G though. He is a friend. Great guy.
Just wanted you all to know I check out this site often and I enjoy the conversation.
Keep up the great work Jordan. You've been pretty spot on this off-season and the insight and the original content is appreciated
Assuming that the picks pan out, I think the organization would put a premium on keeping the OL together given the importance continuity plays in the success of an OL.
They have us taking Aaron Donald and Odell Beckham respectively
questions at RG - Whether Snee will be able to play
Martin gives you a guy who can play both spots, adds competition to camp, and will take over one of the spots or another one. Lots of flexibility and all the intangibles.
I think the only way they don't pick Martin is if they can get the WR from Texas A&M. But, he'll be long gone.
Hopefully the dolphins don't trade in front of us to grab him.
I know everyone is going crazy for Zach Martin,but he's a little overrated in my opinion.I'm also picky when it comes to taking offensive lineman.If I'm going to take one with the 12th overall pick,over guys like Gilbert,Mosley,and Donald,than he's gotta be very good.
Martin can probably handle LT better than Pugh. If Beatty's not ready, I'd play Martin there. Otherwise I'd play him at LG and move Schwartz to RG.
Lewan may have some issues but he would play RT from day one and depending on Beatty could play LT next year if not sooner as needed.
Lewan may have some issues but he would play RT from day one and depending on Beatty could play LT next year if not sooner as needed.
How can you definitively say that Martin cannot play LT? I know some speculation is that teams might want to play him elsewhere, but I don't see where that is conclusive. And I fail to see anything in the tape I watch of him that leads me to the conclusion that he cannot do the job of a LT in the NFL.
If Diehl could do the job on a line that was one of the NFL's best for quite some time, I think Martin could do at least as well.
Please provide your reasoning - specifically - about what aspect of his play isn't good enough to play LT.
Thanks!
Especially interesting and different from other Giants' draft speculation out there is Dix at 3 and Mosley at 8.
Martin #1 must make Phil in LA happy, but Lewan is still on the list at #7!
Greg - Who compared him to Graham?
Rick no offense.. but when I look on the net Im not cataloging where I looked.. when I looked and what site I looked at.. and since im looking at interviews and comments over several devices (phone, tablet... home and work computers).. I cant remember every site.. for every interview.. for EVERY player..
Just look around and see what you can see and form your own opinion..
You'd have to be biased to choose to quickly dismiss it. Luckily, it's not a job that falls to us.