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"Every now and then you have a player go in the top 10 [and] nobody saw it coming. How about WR Odell Beckham Jr. from LSU," former scout and current NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah said recently. "This is a player a lot of people are excited about. And if we see a guy like Sammy Watkins potentially go with that No. 2 overall pick, and then you see Mike Evans go early on, I think Odell Beckham Jr. is next in line. "What he can do in the passing game -- go up and get the footall, run after the catch, can stretch the field vertically, and then the added bonus [is] he's an outstanding returner. So to me, he's a wild-card player. I think people might be shocked on the outside, but a lot of love for him inside the league." The Giants are in that group. They think highly of the explosive wide receiver..." |
"Q: Let’s say Zack Martin, Eric Ebron and Aaron Donald are gone. At No. 12, who makes sense for the Giants?
A: You could be looking at the third wide receiver — is it [Odell] Beckham or [Brandin] Cooks? Or the first safety, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix."
http://nypost.com/2014/05/03/serbys-sunday-qa-with-mike-mayock/
I think people have this misconception that because he may be the third wide receiver taken in this draft, that somehow he should knocked down because of that, but I think there is a chance he ends up being the best of the bunch when all is said and done.
The Giants are getting a very good football player at 12 at a position of need.
Just please don't draft a S there.
Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Josh Gordon, Andre Johnson, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas - all 6'2"+ 220+.
If you take a receiver 12th overall, you would want him to have a chance to be in that elite category of #1 receivers. At 5'11" 200, the cards are stacked against OBJ. He's fast and he's quick. But #1 receivers are what they are because they can physically overpower defenders.
I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
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but I can't see a scenario where he would be the Giants pick. He's not Watkins or even Evans imo, and passing up on Martin or Lewan if one are available for Beckham would suck. Really need to come out of this draft with a lineman who can potentially play immediately
I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
Pugh started all 16 games last year didn't he? And Martin easily could start at guard, or even LT if Beatty isn't ready as the guy they brought in from NO was pretty awful last year and it would at least be a competition between him and Martin
If hes not there we should go pass rusher to compliment the hopefully superb secondary and make the defense potentially lethal, or....go Oline and build a force field around Eli and grab a wr in the 2nd.
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I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
Pugh started all 16 games last year didn't he? And Martin easily could start at guard, or even LT if Beatty isn't ready as the guy they brought in from NO was pretty awful last year and it would at least be a competition between him and Martin
I was waiting for you to bring up Pugh. Tell me you seriously think Pugh would have sniffed starting if the injury bug hadn't hit the OL hard and heavy. He's the definition of the exception to the rule.
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I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
Pugh started all 16 games last year didn't he? And Martin easily could start at guard, or even LT if Beatty isn't ready as the guy they brought in from NO was pretty awful last year and it would at least be a competition between him and Martin
I was waiting for you to bring up Pugh. Tell me you seriously think Pugh would have sniffed starting if the injury bug hadn't hit the OL hard and heavy. He's the definition of the exception to the rule.
Well, the injury bug is a legitimate issue this year when you have Beatty who may not be ready for opening day, Snee who hasnt been able to stay healthy recently, a guy at center who hasnt played in 2 years. It's pretty easy to see scenarios where a guy like Martin would play immediately.
NYG should walk away at #12 with a better prospect, be it Martin, Barr, Lewan, perhaps Fuller or Ha-Ha if Gilbert and Dennard are gone.
WR analysis - ( New Window )
#12 might be a bit rich for him but a slight trade down would be ideal.
he wouldn't be holiday will be
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I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
Pugh started all 16 games last year didn't he? And Martin easily could start at guard, or even LT if Beatty isn't ready as the guy they brought in from NO was pretty awful last year and it would at least be a competition between him and Martin
I was waiting for you to bring up Pugh. Tell me you seriously think Pugh would have sniffed starting if the injury bug hadn't hit the OL hard and heavy. He's the definition of the exception to the rule.
You either missed or ar ignoring my statement that the starters/backups are already on the roster. You may not like it, but that's what's gonna happen.
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In comment 11653021 BMac said:
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I know that I oft repeat this refrain, but the Giants are not drafting an OL at 12 that they expect to play immediately. The backups/starters, barring late FA pickups as other teams dump players, are already on the team.
We may not like it, but that's the way it is. Drafting someone like Martin (who I like, but not at 12 in this draft) is a next-year-and-into-the-future pick.
I really think that we go impact player from WR/DT/DE/DB unless someone extraordinary drops. This draft is so deep at OL that there are a ton of very good players who can be had in rounds 2-4 that fit the "next year" MO.
Pugh started all 16 games last year didn't he? And Martin easily could start at guard, or even LT if Beatty isn't ready as the guy they brought in from NO was pretty awful last year and it would at least be a competition between him and Martin
I was waiting for you to bring up Pugh. Tell me you seriously think Pugh would have sniffed starting if the injury bug hadn't hit the OL hard and heavy. He's the definition of the exception to the rule.
You either missed or ar ignoring my statement that the starters/backups are already on the roster. You may not like it, but that's what's gonna happen.
You would have said the exact same thing last year before they drafted Pugh and been wrong.
You mean like Patrick Peterson?